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Is Rand Paul’s Love of Ayn Rand a ‘Conspiracy’? (Chait: Why Ayn Rand is Evil)
New York Magazine ^ | Jonathan Chait

Posted on 06/20/2013 12:48:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: dljordan

My problem with Lew Rockwell concerns complex topics covered in 250 words or less.

That site does occasionally link to “Art of Manliness,” one of my favorite sites. I’ll give ‘em that.


81 posted on 06/20/2013 2:34:48 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve heard the quotes that Randism has never been tried. Actually, although she wasn’t born yet, her economic theories were tried in the late 1800s which coincided with a tremendous growth in the wealth of the country and the average American citizen. We’ve all heard that the late 1800s was the age of the “robber barons” and the oppression of the American worker, but in reality it was the age of the greatest increase in wealth in American history. And most of it without the oppressive hand of Big Government to stop the growth. I believe that’s pretty much what Rand stood for.


82 posted on 06/20/2013 2:41:06 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: warchild9
better than camomile tea

You been reading Peter Rabbit lately?

83 posted on 06/20/2013 2:41:18 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Which language?


84 posted on 06/20/2013 2:42:06 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: nickcarraway

Rand is an ethical egoist. This is a belief that people should always act in their own best interest. Selfishness is a policy. She was highly influenced by Nietzsche and Aristotle (a strange combination). Whether or not people see selfishness as a positive attribute, it is precisely how people live. I see a Paul as a person that cares for others, but he is does believe that capitalism is a force for good.


85 posted on 06/20/2013 2:42:58 PM PDT by Nemoque
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To: warchild9

The barely literate couldn’t read her works. Some of her critics,on this board, otoh.............


86 posted on 06/20/2013 2:46:58 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

Finish your GED and go to WalMart for some new clothes.

You’ll bring your wit up to the next level, and women might start looking at you.


87 posted on 06/20/2013 2:48:18 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9
I still think Rand was an awful writer, and doesn’t deserve the personality cult that has grown here on FR.

I remember getting to the famous "Galt speech", thinking to myself that finally she's going to lay it all out.

And wanting to slit my wrists about one page later.........ten, fifteen pages later he's still talking and somehow people are STILL listening to him on the radio all over the US of A.

That being said, she nails a few things in her writings:

1. The manner that leftists gain and consolidate power.
2. The hypocrisy of leftists.
3. Capitalism (free enterprise) is a superior system to statism for multiple reasons.

I think a sense of humor would have helped her a lot.........

88 posted on 06/20/2013 3:03:21 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

Yeah, it’s that grimness that bothers me.

As I mentioned elsewhere, Buckley was funny.


89 posted on 06/20/2013 3:04:44 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9
She was also a racist and a eugenicist (the two are linked.)

Do you have anything to back that statement up? Or is it just something you heard?

90 posted on 06/20/2013 3:04:57 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The Eurozone policy might best be described as "Laurel and Hardy Carry a Piano Upstairs.")
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To: Dead Corpse
LOL, I was too busy reading actual literature, you know, for my two literature degrees.

Camus wrote better novels and was easily a more trenchant philosopher, but if Harlequin-grade melodrama is your thing, I'm happy for you.

91 posted on 06/20/2013 3:05:54 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: warchild9

“Finish your GED and go to WalMart for some new clothes.

You’ll bring your wit up to the next level, and women might start looking at you.”

Your presumably clever comeback just proves my point.


92 posted on 06/20/2013 3:09:00 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: nickcarraway

I’m not a firm believer in democracy either. I believe in a constitutional republic of limited powers. You know, like the Founders.


93 posted on 06/20/2013 3:10:36 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: BfloGuy

Ow, citations! Go to her correspondence, and not some edited nonsense—find a volume of her letters in the raw.

I remember reading these and she not only expressed sympathy for eugenicists, but offered rather harsh suggestions about reducing the number of blacks in the country, involving castration and other nastiness.

If you want to read REAL history, skip the publications and read the personal correspondence of historical figures. It’s like reading emails today. You find out what they’re really like.


94 posted on 06/20/2013 3:11:42 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: nickcarraway

“I do not believe that a majority can vote a man’s life, or property, or freedom away from him.”

Nor do I, Ayn.


95 posted on 06/20/2013 3:11:56 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: nickcarraway

“People who think she had a lot of really good ideas should not be anywhere near power.”

i.e., people who support capitalism and free markets.


96 posted on 06/20/2013 3:14:03 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Daveinyork

That was weak, I’ll admit. If I was on my game, you’d be quivering and hooting like an enraged primate by now.

I’m tired after a busy day farting around.

Where’s mah wife? We’re supposed to go out tonight!


97 posted on 06/20/2013 3:14:57 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: SoFloFreeper; Jim Robinson; warchild9; nickcarraway
She got it dreadfully wrong on social conservatism and God.

That's an understatement if the following quotes attributed to her are true:

An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).

Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?

The source for that is Frequently Asked Questions About Ayn Rand’s Ideas. And with the caveat that if this clip is not fraudulent, Ayn Rand "Abortion", then as an advocate of killing children, there's a very dark side to her.

The statement by Free Republic founder's enumerating his principles are excellent metrics by which to judge a person's character. The first three of which are:

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family...

I'm not sure how Ayn Rand measures up to Jim Robinson's core values of authentic Conservatism.

98 posted on 06/20/2013 3:15:26 PM PDT by re_nortex
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To: mmichaels1970

Democracy, as Madison pointed out, is “the tyranny of the majority.”

If you want to see democracy in action, look at a country like India, where there are regular elections but minorities are consistently, harshly, and routinely oppressed, no matter who is in power. That’s democracy.

We’re not supposed to be that. We’re supposed to be a country where the majority rules, but within the framework of a constitution, and minority and individual rights are respected and protected.

Is the Electoral College democratic?


99 posted on 06/20/2013 3:17:12 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: cdcdawg
She also nailed the Left so very perfectly, which is why they hated and still hate her so much.

BINGO!!!

100 posted on 06/20/2013 3:18:10 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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