Posted on 06/21/2013 5:18:29 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, June 21st, is DAY #10 (of 2nd week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. Yesterday they got a jury impanelled: [Day #9 Summary Here]
Yesterday they selected 6 primary jurists, and 4 alternates. All of the primary jurists are female. Heres the breakdown:
B-29: A Black-Hispanic (?) nurse on an Alzheimers ward who has several children and lived in Chicago at the time of shooting.......
B-76: A white, middle-aged woman -- 40s who said Zimmerman had an altercation with the young man. There was a struggle and the gun went off........ The state tried to strike her, but was denied.
B-37: A middle-aged white woman -- 50s who has worked for a chiropractor for 16 years and has many pets. She described protests in Sanford as rioting. .... She uused to have concealed weapons permit, but let it lapse. Her husband also has one.
B-51: A retired white woman -- 60s ...... She knew a good deal about the case, but said Im not rigid in my thinking. She has been in Seminole County for nine years, is unmarried and has no kids.......
E-6: A young white woman -- 20s and mother who used to work in financial services.......... Her husband has guns. The state tried to strike her from the jury, but was denied.
E-40: A white woman in her 60s who lived in Iowa at the time of the shooting.....She said shes very well versed in cell phone technology, and has been a victim of crime.
The alternates are:
E54 a white male in his 60′s
B72 a mixed race male in his 20′s
E13 a white female in her 20′s
E28 a white female in her 50′s
Yesterday Judge Nelson also heard the last of the Frye hearing experts, and will rule on whether or not the jury will hear the conflicting testimony of audio experts about who was screaming for help on the 911 tapes.
If the defense loses, and Nelson lets that argument take place, they are in a pickle Because their experts have claimed no-one can determine who is screaming, while the prosecution has claimed their experts reflect it was Trayvons voice calling for help.
They also have other business (various motions) to attend today.
The prosecution struck 4 [a black man and 3 white women] and the defense struck 4 [a white man, white woman, and 2 black women]
http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/06/11/watch-live-coverage-george-zimmerman-trial
http://wildabouttrial.com/george-zimmerman-live-stream.html
Here are some additional *possible* Links to the Hearing:
WFTV http://www.wftv.com/s/news/trayvonmartin/
Click Orlando http://www.clickorlando.com/news/trayvo index.html
Orlando Sentinel (Fox 35 live stream) http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc on-martin/
WESH http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florid index.html
cfnews http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cf artin.html
MyfoxOrlando http://www.myfoxorlando.com/category/23 von-martin
CNN http://edition.cnn.com/US/
TruTV/InSession link: http://www.superusvoxtv.com/index.php/speciality/tru-tv
It doesn’t matter who is empaneled.
George is being framed for protecting himself from an enraged, out-of-control bully.
George needs to be released right after the bogus case against him his thrown out!
Based on what I’ve seen regarding the facts of this case in the MSM, the internet and Conservativetreehouse, if the information on these six is not fake, there is no way they get a conviction. Not even for involuntary manslaughter.
Al Sharpton and the Crumpmeisters are already singing their favorite song:
Can Mostly-White Panel Give Equal Justice?
If the defense loses, and Nelson lets that argument take place, they are in a pickle Because their experts have claimed no-one can determine who is screaming, while the prosecution has claimed their experts reflect it was Trayvons voice calling for help.
Can Mostly-White Panel Give Equal Justice?
The cannonball express on the main line to conviction junction is running open throttle, all greens. Hopefully somewhere along the path a bridge is out but don’t bet on it given the power of a judge to influence a jury.
If the descriptions of the jurors is correct, this should end up in not guilty in a fair unbiased trial but like I said, the judge has the power to limit exactly what the jury hears and how they hear it.
Beyond a reasonable doubt becomes the issue. Defense witness inserts the doubt.
Beyond a reasonable doubt becomes the issue.
They then claim self defense, rest their case and Zimmerman walks.
I exagerate. But if the jury is actually reasonable people, only slightly.
As you said, reasonable doubt.
Yep -- and this showed up loud and clear in court yesterday when O'Mara was trying to explain that the state bears the burden of disproving the defendant's claim of self defense beyond a reasonable doubt.
Bernie objected. Nelson sustained the objection and then merely read the statute without clarification and said that there would be no explanation forthcoming -- that they will have to figure that out on their own.
Trayvons backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described the screwdriver as a burglary tool.
Martin was suspended, warned and dismissed for the graffiti, according to the report prepared by Miami-Dade Schools Police.
Then in February 2012 that initial suspension was followed four months later by another one, in which Trayvon was caught with an empty plastic bag with traces of marijuana in it AND a pipe. A schools police report obtained by The Miami Herald specifies two items: a bag with marijuana residue and a marijuana pipe.Trayvon was again suspended. This time for ten days.
Martin tweeted under the handle NO_LIMIT_NIGGA, an account that was closed shortly after his death.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/the-daily-caller-obtains-trayvon-martins-tweets/#ixzz2Wr1lDVo2
Leni, you may enjoy the daily discussion thread posted by uncle Chip!
I thought the self defense argument was a presumption similar to the notion a letter sent is deemed a letter received, kind of like an affirmative defense which must be overcome by the prosecution, not the other way around.
As I understand currently none of his past history will be presented to the jury. That will change however if the da screws up and tries to present positive evidence. 3——2——1 It will be presented eventually is my guess !
Correct me if I’m wrong U C
Bernie objected. Nelson sustained the objection and then merely read the statute without clarification and said that there would be no explanation forthcoming — that they will have to figure that out on their own.
The thing about this case is that it is being conducted in a fish bowl. And the jurors are not idiots. Usually...
I read it faithfully, Hoosiermama. His daily thread is a real service to interested Florida freepers......and I thank him wholeheartedly for his hard work!
Leni
They better be glad MY wife is NOT on the jury... No matter what info I give her, she keeps saying... “Zimmerman had NO BUSINESS being involved in this... he should have called 911 and stayed in the car”.
She would DEFINITELY find him guilty... of something.
FWIO self defense is an assertion that the defendant must make [like insanity] and he is making it in this case, which means that the state must disprove it as part of their case.
Listening to MoM I get the feeling that regardless of what the da does some part of Martin’s past relating to his fighting prowess will make it into evidence.
I think the self defense statute allows the jury to consider the comparative differences between the two regarding fighting abilities. In that regard that picture of him at the 7 Eleven has to send chills down anyone’s spine.
I also don’t know how they keep the marijuana out of evidence since it’s in the medical report.
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