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Day #10 (Week 2) State V. Zimmerman – Open Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 21, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 06/21/2013 5:18:29 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

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To: XenaLee

They need no concept of right or wrong, winning obviates that need.


41 posted on 06/21/2013 8:19:43 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

I think the prosecution would put Owen on the stand but not Reich. He sounds like he has dementia, and since juror B29 works with dementia patients, she just might recognize him.


42 posted on 06/21/2013 8:20:33 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: sheikdetailfeather

10:21

Comment From Letsbefair
Did judge make a decision yet on voice recordings?.

10:22

Bruce at WFTV:
Later today, we expect to get the ruling. Not in open court.


43 posted on 06/21/2013 8:25:06 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Uncle Chip

LOLOL!!!!


44 posted on 06/21/2013 8:25:49 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Uncle Chip

Agreed. If the Defense presents a plausable case for self-defense, the State either has to demolish it, or “reasonable doubt” remains. That of course requires logic and basic fairness — might not be seen here.

I am heartened by BdlR’s use of his junior associate when the going gets really pathetic. He knows there is no case and wants to let a subordinate take the fall (and why not? his own boss set the example).

For Nelson to drag out the Frye ruling to jam the Defense is so transparent. How hard can this be? It’s not as if she bothers to explain her rulings. If she rules “send in the clowns” (which perversely is to GZ’s advantage), one would expect an emergency appeal and stay from the DCA, then another unanimous reversal, during which time Crump, the Medical Examiner, et al., can be deposed. Is that what she actually wants? Then they could start the jury selection all over and get more diversity. If she rules “no clowns” (as the law clearly requires), then the case just got shorter.


45 posted on 06/21/2013 8:30:44 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: cuban leaf
The jurors thew it out as too ambiguous to be used in forming an opinion.

I agree. I have served on 4 juries. My experience that that the jurors DO use common sense and are not afraid to say that garbage testimony is garbage.

46 posted on 06/21/2013 8:32:53 AM PDT by super7man
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To: Uncle Chip

Black`s are not coming across as decent people,they could not find a honest one! How many Black`s did the Judge dismiss on her own because they stated that they had already decided on George`s guilt.

Now I am NOT a bigot, but between seeing phony Christians in the ALL BLACK Church, and now there bias in this case?

I am NOT impressed! And I apologize to the millions of wonderful decent wonderful Black men and women of this coutry

God created us all, we are all created in His image, but I tell you I am ashamed of so many of these folks


47 posted on 06/21/2013 8:46:06 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2016 OR BUST)
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To: Uncle Chip

Would be kind of interesting if the defense called Reich, and had a little chat with him about his former “prosecution expert” status, then, wouldn’t it?


48 posted on 06/21/2013 8:51:04 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Chewbarkah

If she is expecting another emergency appeal, followed by another reversal, why not moot it by stalling the decision while allowing the prosecution to refer to the evidence in opening? That’s my fear here. Call it a tactical delay. I wonder if the appelate court can turn around a TRO between 8:59 and 9 am Monday?

I appreciate her desire to move forward, but she ought to keep in mind that when one is gathering praise for “making the trains run on time” one is still running a railroad.


49 posted on 06/21/2013 9:04:59 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg; Chewbarkah; sheikdetailfeather

Mantei said this morning regarding the motion on inflammatory terms that the state’s case is that Zimmerman “confronted” Martin and they have evidence to support that.

Where have I been??? Did I miss that evidence???


50 posted on 06/21/2013 9:19:05 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

I’d have to guess Dee Dee’s claim that she heard “what are you doing here?” Only thing I’m aware of.


51 posted on 06/21/2013 9:22:59 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg
I’d have to guess Dee Dee’s claim that she heard “what are you doing here?” Only thing I’m aware of.

Me too -- and yet that statement was in the possession of the state in the form of her sworn interview at the time when the state's investigator Gilbreath in April of last year testified that the state had no evidence of who confronted who.

Maybe the state played that DeeDee interview for Dr Reich and he heard with his magical ears her say other things in that interview that no one else heard --

52 posted on 06/21/2013 9:36:08 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Ooh, that’s right. Good catch!


53 posted on 06/21/2013 10:01:50 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Uncle Chip

“Where have I been??? Did I miss that evidence???”

99% likely this “evidence” is the W8 romance. If BdlR has finally realized that W8’s concoction places TM back in the safety of Brandi Green’s townhouse, look for Mantei to handle the questioning.

1% that Reich will interpret statements by the lawn and the “mail thing”.


54 posted on 06/21/2013 11:49:52 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Chewbarkah

Reich could be making regular appearances during the trial to tell the jurors the words that the witnesses said on the witness stand but the jurors and court reporter didn’t hear because of their inferior ears.


55 posted on 06/21/2013 12:12:59 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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“confronted” :

O’MARA: Zimmerman confronted Martin, those words. Where did you get that from?

GILBREATH: That was from the fact that the two of them obviously ended up together in that dog walk area. According to one of the witnesses that we talked with, there were arguing words going on before this incident occurred. But it was between two people.

O’MARA: Which means they met. I’m just curious with the word confronted and what evidence you have to support an affidavit you want in this judge to rely on that these facts with true and you use the word confronted. And I want to know your evidence to support the word confronted if you have any.

GILBREATH: Well, it’s not that I have one. I probably could have used thirty words.

O’MARA: It is antagonistic word, would you agree?

GILBREATH: It could be considered that, yes.

O’MARA: Come up with words that are not antagonistic, met, came up to, spoke with.

GILBREATH: Got in physical confrontation with.

O’MARA: But you have nothing to support the confrontation suggestion, do you?

GILBREATH: I believe I answered it. I don’t know how much more explanation you wish.

O’MARA: Anything you have, but you don’t have any, do you?

GILBREATH: I think I’ve answered the question.


56 posted on 06/21/2013 12:37:46 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Use of inflammatory words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kx5P6ztxZsg#at=105

What is Alicia Adamson doing commenting on this since she is definite partisan representing one of the witnesses???


57 posted on 06/21/2013 1:37:23 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Seats available in the courthouse

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/few-express-interest-attending-george-zimmerman-mu/nYRnF/

Anyone???


58 posted on 06/21/2013 3:07:58 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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DEFENDANT’S SPECIFIC RESPONSE TO STATE’S MOTION IN LIMINE REGARDING SELF-SERVING HEARSAY STATEMENTS OF DEFENDANT

http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0613/re_self-serving_statements.pdf

JN wouldn’t rule on this today but if she allows the state’s “expert” testimony but denies this Motion it will be another in a long line of reasons why she is being demoted to divorce court.


59 posted on 06/21/2013 4:19:04 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/6/21/15215/8596/crimenews/Zimmerman-Judge-No-Mention-of-Racial-Profiling


60 posted on 06/21/2013 4:47:16 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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