“Insider Threat Program”: How the White House is keeping federal workers quiet (YIKES!)

Hot Air ^ | June 21,2013

[WildHighlander57]

Sven in your #102 you say

“...... Employees of DHS who have seen the document are prohibited by law of disclosing the contents of records held by DHS due to the Privacy Act. ......”

You said awhile back that you saw 0’s immigration docs (it was either a CLN or a naturalization).

You have a blog stating this, and you have said it here on FR.

Are you not in violation of the privacy act law?

The only way you are not in violation is if o gave you permission.

When did he do this?

[WildHighlander57]

Posts concerning this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2963803/posts?page=16#16

Senator Vows to Block Any Clinton Successor
WSJ ^ | Updated November 27, 2012, 10:55 p.m. ET | SARA MURRAY
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:26:38 PM by Ernest_at_the_Beach

To: advertising guy

Sen. Ayotte hasn’t seen Obama’s Certificate of Loss of Nationality. I have.
Sen. Ayotte has put the pieces of the puzzle together and figured out Obama is either a naturalized U.S. Citizen or not a U.S. Citizen. She wants Hillary to stay put and answer a few simple questions on Obama’s passport record and explain why she didn’t come forward with the incriminating evidence 4 years ago.
Hillary wants to retire to private life immediately.

16 posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:50:59 PM by SvenMagnussen (Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy)
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WAS OBAMA ONCE AN INDONESIAN CITIZEN? HERE’S WHAT WE FOUND WHEN WE WENT THERE LOOKING
The Blaze ^ | November 5, 2012 | Charles C. Johnson

Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 10:42:40 AM by Seizethecarp

To: Seizethecarp

I’m discussing Obama’s Indonesian citizen and rebutting the false claim Barry Soetoro’s St. Fransis Assisi Catholic school record is unreliable. My post is far from spam.
If you can’t stand the heat, then stay out of the kitchen.
Instead of disengenuously asserting false theories and demanding proof to the contrary, why don’t you listen or sit by and quietly read from someone who knows what they are talking about.
It is a fact Obama was issued a Certificate of Loss of Nationality in 1968 and Certificate of Naturalization in 1983.

17 posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:14:45 PM by SvenMagnussen (Gossip is Satan’s talk radio. Threat Level: Midnight.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2896796/posts?page=48#48

Now we learn Obama raised in Singapore? 1990 Vanity Fair article contradicts Indonesia narrative

To: dinodino

If I post a scan of a document, then the first words out of your mouth will be, “It’s a fake!”
Consequently, you will actually have to get off the couch and obtain copies for yourself.
Do you want to see Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization? It’s at USCIS, Lee’s Summit, MO.
Do you want to talk to an eyewitness to Obama’s entire primary school education? Find Neal Boortz’s sister and ask her about it.
Or you can post questions and concerns on the net. It’s up to you.

48 posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:47:59 AM by SvenMagnussen (Gossip is Satin’s talk radio.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2894918/posts?page=4#4

Where Was Obama Born? The Answer Is...

To: kreitzer

Obama naturalized as an American citizen in 1983. His Certificate of Naturalization is on file with the United States Customs and Immigration Service, Lee’s Summit County, MO.

4 posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:48:29 PM by SvenMagnussen (Gossip is Satin’s talk radio.)
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Will 1991 Biography Discovery Force Obama to Open the Hood?

To: pistolpackinpapa

Truthfully, Obama graduated high school as a foreign national legally residing in the US as an immigrant. He naturalized as a US citizen in 1983.
All of the details of why and how Obama emigrated to the US can be found in his Alien Registration files with DHS

7 posted on Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:18:57 AM by SvenMagnussen (What would MacGyver do?)
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Lou Dobbs mystified by Obama-birth ‘taboo’

Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:01:31 AM · 30 of 42

SvenMagnussen to WildHighlander57

I sent the documents I had to Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. via UPS Next Day Air. I comfirmed with Alec that the package arrived a week after I sent it.
Orly should ask her UPS route driver for the package. It’ll comfirm Obama naturalized as a US citizen in 1983.
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To: SvenMagnussen; butterdezillion; hoosiermama; LucyT; Fred Nerks

SvenMagnussen wrote:

“I sent the documents I had to Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. via UPS Next Day Air. I comfirmed with Alec that the package arrived a week after I sent it.
Orly should ask her UPS route driver for the package. It’ll comfirm Obama naturalized as a US citizen in 1983”

SvenMagnussen,
Many thanks for the info. When was this info sent?

Butterdezillion, hoosiermama, LucyT, FredNerks
Pinging y’all to this.... comments?

31 posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:30:01 AM by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

I’ll defer all questions to Orly. She may have a strategic reason for ignoring Obama’s naturalization papers and focusing on the forged BC.
That being said, let’s be clear, Obama’s ineligibilty is clearly outlined in his Alien Registration file with DHS and his NUMIDENT file with SSA.

32 posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:54:50 PM by SvenMagnussen (What would MacGyver do?)
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[SvenMagnussen]

“Are you not in violation of the privacy act law?

The only way you are not in violation is if o gave you permission.”

I’m not a Federal Employee or Federal contractor, so I could only examine or witness proof of Obama’s naturalization as a U.S. citizen with his permission.

For example, naturalization ceremonies are held in the public. Its possible I went to a naturalization ceremony to celebrate the naturalization of my mother, Svedvaana Magnussen, in 1983. I may have videotaped my mother swearing her loyalty oath during the ceremony and caught Obama standing behind her swearing the same oath.

Would a video of Obama participating in a naturalization ceremony be of any value? I think it would.

As a rebuttal witness to Obama’s false assertion he is eligible to be POTUS, its prudent not to expose the rebuttal evidence until Obama is on record, under oath, and falsely claiming he did not naturalize in 1983. This can only be done if the a case gets to discovery.

Without discovery, any rebuttal evidence will be ignored by the Courts, media, Congress and general public. It shouldn’t be that way, but it is. Let’s focus on getting a case to discovery, then we can nail the usurper.

[WildHighlander57]

Sven, you said in the post #123:

“.....I’m not a Federal Employee or Federal contractor,so I could only examine or witness proof of Obama’s naturalization as a U.S. citizen with his permission......”

OK Sven, what about the post below where you claim to have SEEN 0’s docs?????

If you saw them, and disclosed the info, as you have done here and on your blog, then you are in VIOLATION of the privacy act!!!!

UNLESS 0 gave you permission... WHEN did he give you permission??

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2963803/posts?page=16#16

Senator Vows to Block Any Clinton Successor WSJ ^ | Updated November 27,2012,10:55 p.m. ET | SARA MURRAY Posted on Wednesday,November 28,2012 3:26:38 PM by Ernest_at_the_Beach

To: advertising guy

Sen. Ayotte hasn’t seen Obama’s Certificate of Loss of Nationality. I have. Sen. Ayotte has put the pieces of the puzzle together and figured out Obama is either a naturalized U.S. Citizen or not a U.S. Citizen. She wants Hillary to stay put and answer a few simple questions on Obama’s passport record and explain why she didn’t come forward with the incriminating evidence 4 years ago. Hillary wants to retire to private life immediately.

16 posted on Wednesday,November 28,2012 3:50:59 PM by SvenMagnussen

[WildHighlander57]

Also here you say you sent docs to Orly; if they had info about 0’s immigration docs, then that ALSO is a VIOLATION of the privacy act!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2886326/posts?page=48#48

[WildHighlander57]

The only way its not a violation is if 0 gave you permission to disclose them.

Again my question is,

When did 0 give you permission?

[WildHighlander57]

#30 on this page says you sent docs to Orly :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2886326/posts?q=1&;page=21

[rxsid]

Is it the docs you've given to Orly?

Or the 1983 video tape of your mothers oath ceremony where you happen to have Barry in the vid too?

Or is it both?

Furthermore, getting a case to discovery is far, far less likely to happen than getting (the few) allies in Congress and the media to discuss actual video footage of Barry at a naturalization oath ceremony, swearing off his foreign allegiance. Something like that out there in the open, not even the likes of Rush or Hannity could avoid.

[SvenMagnussen]

“Also here you say you sent docs to Orly; if they had info about 0’s immigration docs, then that ALSO is a VIOLATION of the privacy act!”

You falsely assume the documents were obtained through fraud or theft. Each naturalized citizen is entitled to receive a certified copy of their Certificate of Naturalization to prove they are a U.S. Citizen. The new citizen can provide a copy of the document or deny a copy of the document to anyone they choose. A person who is not a Federal employee nor a Federal contractor with a copy of Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization issued to him in 1983 is a sign of someone who was granted permission to possess a copy of the document. Obama proudly told anyone who would listen he was an immigrant until 1996.

An Obot or ConcernedFreeper will only believe the document was stolen and inadmissible.

[rabidralph]

The same reason Barry’s questionable past isn’t all over the news.

[WildHighlander57]

NEVER have I said that those documents were obtained by nefarious means.

I quoted YOUR posts where you said

1) you SAW the docs,

2) where you said you SENT docs to Orly,

3) where you said that unless someone gave PERMISSION for another person to see the docs, that to disclose the info was a VIOLATION of the privacy act.

I asked WHEN did 0 give you permission.

Here is your latest post:

” ..... A person who is not a Federal employee nor a Federal contractor with a copy of Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization issued to him in 1983 is a sign of someone who was granted permission to possess a copy of the document.....”

Since you said upthread that you were not a federal employee or a federal contractor, then if 0 gave you permission then it would be OK.

Again my question,

DID 0 give you PERMISSION?????

If so, WHEN?????

[SvenMagnussen]

Only an OBOT or ConcernedFreeper cares about how, when and why Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization was viewed, copied, or delivered. These are the questions a defense lawyer would use to discredit the incriminating evidence and protect Obama.

The best answer a rebuttal witness can provide to an OBOT or ConcernedFreeper is: “I don’t recall.”

At trial, the rebuttal witness can carefully explain how, when and why they were able to legally obtain a copy of Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization. Obama provided copies of his COLB to select reporters and denied other reporters the opportunity to examine the certified copy. An immigrant can provide a copy of his/her Certificate of Naturalization if they choose. Doing so, waives their right to privacy.

Providing a copy of the evidence to an attorney to discuss legal issues is not a violation of Obama’s privacy. He waived his right to privacy when he gave it to me. I’m protected by attorney-client privilege as I sought legal advice from licensed attorney, Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. I can provide any documents I think are relevant to a legal issue to a licensed attorney without adverse consequence.

[WildHighlander57]

Well, what would Orly think of the information being spread by her client (you) all over FR?

Information that should be protected by the attorney client privilege , hmm?

Why don’t you keep the info that you saw a CLN and sent docs to Orly....

UNDER YOUR HAT? ???

David, LucyT, cold case posse supporter, seizethecarp, theoldlady:

Pinging all y’all to this, need your opinion on someone that has an attorney client relationship (in this case Sven with Orly) spreading his info, info that he has given to his attorney ( in this case sven gave info to orly about 0’s immigration docs) all over FR and elsewhere.

[SvenMagnussen]

“Well, what would Orly think of the information being spread by her client (you) all over FR?”

Contrary to popular belief, Orly is an attorney and not a queen. If she was interested in exposing Obama, she would allege Obama naturalized in 1983 in her eligibility lawsuits.

She hasn’t. Obviously, she is in love with him.

[WildHighlander57]

Sven,

Could you answer the second question, the one about the attorney client privilege that you claim that you have with Orly?

Isn’t an attorney client relationship there to keep info PRIVATE????

My post with the 2 questions, for reference:

1) Well,what would Orly think of the information being spread by her client (you) all over FR?

Information that should be protected by the attorney client privilege , hmm?

2)Why don’t you keep the info that you saw a CLN and sent docs to Orly....

UNDER YOUR HAT? ???

[LucyT]

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Check out # 133.

Then, begin at #121 or thereabouts and read to the end of the thread about Sven sending docs to Orly.

Sven, where/ how did you (really) get those documents?

WildHighlander75 wrote:

Pinging all y’all to this, need your opinion on someone that has an attorney client relationship (in this case Sven with Orly) spreading his info, info that he has given to his attorney ( in this case Sven gave info to Orly about 0’s immigration docs) all over FR and elsewhere.

[I tried to locate a graphic of a keg of Worms...] .

[SvenMagnussen]

It’s called an admission against interests. Attorney-Client privilege protects me, not the attorney or the defendant.

For example, I contact a licensed attorney and deliver a Certificate of Naturalization about a person I’m having a legal dispute with. The attorney advises me of the Privacy Act, tells me stolen evidence is inadmissible in court, and advises me I could be prosecuted for violating another person’s privacy for obtaining their Certificate of Naturalization.

Obviously, the attorney does not understand or chooses not to understand that the recipient of a Certificate of Naturalization can provide a certified copy of the document to anyone they choose. The waiver of privacy is implied.

The attorney insists the Certificate of Naturalization is irrelevant and informs me the only way to pursue this legal matter is to accuse Obama of obtaining false i.d.s, using the SSN of someone else, and publishing a falsified selective service registration form. I insist an allegation Obama is a naturalized citizen directly impacts his insistence he is eligible for POTUS.

The attorney and I cannot come to terms and we part ways. Even though a formal relationship has not been consumated with a contract, I am protected by attorney-client privilege. The attorney cannot testify against me and state I have stolen evidence or violated Obama’s privacy because its an admission against interest. In negotiating a legal matter with a licensed attorney, I have an expectation of privacy. Anything discussed with the attorney is privileged.

It’s unfortunate the attorney does not believe a direct attack on Obama’s eligibility with respect to his Certificate of Naturalization is viable. But that is one attorney’s opinion.

[Brown Deer]

An immigrant can provide a copy of his/her Certificate of Naturalization if they choose. Doing so, waives their right to privacy.

Providing a copy of the evidence to an attorney to discuss legal issues is not a violation of Obama’s privacy. He waived his right to privacy when he gave it to me.

I smell more bullshit. Your story changed again. Now you say that 0bama gave you a copy. If he really did, then you would be giving it to every law enforcement agency in the land and posting it for all to see...

...so you could be famous on national TV ;-)

You must be one of those OBOTs or ConcernedFreepers.

[Red Steel]

Obama gave it to him? “Wow” I think. And would Obama even dare prosecute because that would be an admission to its authenticity? No, Obama would do his very best to ignore and discredit it.

[WildHighlander57]

In this thread post 4 you say the dhs alien registration file and the ss NUMIDENT file has info on o.

Post 27 I ask did you have links to the docs, and if not, did you do a FOIA.

Post 30 you say you sent docs to Orly that would CONFIRM that 0 naturalized in 1983.

And you keep on telling everyone what you sent, and to whom you sent it.....

ORLY, with whom you claim an attorney client privilege.

But since she (according to you) hasn’t done anything with the docs, what keeps the attorney client privilege active?

If you have an active Atty client relationship then why are you divulging the info?

If you don’t have an Atty client relationship then why are you NOT disclosing more details?

Here’s the topic link, it goes to the page with post #30:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2886326/posts?page=30#30

To: Stalwart

Obama’s Alien Registration file with DHS and his NUMIDENT File with SSA tells everything you need to know about Obama,Lou.

4 posted on 05/21/2012 11:16:11 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (What would MacGyver do?) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

To: SvenMagnussen

OK,

Can you provide a link to 0’s DHS Alien Registration record and a link to his SSA NUMIDENT record?

If not,when did you submit a FOIA request for the abovementioned documents?

Have you received a reply?

27 posted on 05/21/2012 3:03:53 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

To: WildHighlander57

I sent the documents I had to Dr. Orly Taitz,Esq. via UPS Next Day Air. I comfirmed with Alec that the package arrived a week after I sent it.

Orly should ask her UPS route driver for the package. It’ll comfirm Obama naturalized as a US citizen in 1983.

30 posted on 05/22/2012 9:01:31 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (What would MacGyver do?) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]