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While there are two other carriers in the state, Wright Specialty Insurance and Continental Western Group, provide insurance to school districts, both of these companies have also expressed that they are not interested in covering such liabilities either.
1 posted on 06/22/2013 6:20:55 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
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Two can play this game: Maybe their license to do business in Kansas needs a review.


2 posted on 06/22/2013 6:24:04 AM PDT by Truth29
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OK...so the state's Insurance Commissioner de-certifies the company rendering it incapable of writing any policies in the state.Two can play at *that* game.
3 posted on 06/22/2013 6:24:45 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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well, they got it bass ackwards, the risk is higher when the teachers don’t have guns


4 posted on 06/22/2013 6:25:32 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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I wonder how these insurers are going to handle the liability claims for schools who refuse to protect their students - I would think that the potential for fiduciary loss would be much greater.


5 posted on 06/22/2013 6:25:45 AM PDT by centurion316
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If this is the non-issue that it should be, then somewhere there has got to be a firm that not only would do this but would offer a discount for it.


7 posted on 06/22/2013 6:26:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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The only exception would be for police officers.

This is the loophole. Very easy to drive a semi through it: just deputize any teacher authorized to carry on school premises.
8 posted on 06/22/2013 6:27:57 AM PDT by tanknetter
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What part of “concealed” is so hard to understand?


11 posted on 06/22/2013 6:31:00 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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EMC’s resident vice president, Bernie Zalaznik said, “We understand that school districts have every right to decide which way they want to go, but we have to make the decision based on what we perceive to be our best financial interest.”

OK, let's take them at their word for a minute. If a situation arises where it can later be shown that their no-guns-for-teachers policy CONTRIBUTED to the carnage, are they willing to pay out more and also to get sued for wrongful death over the policy?

16 posted on 06/22/2013 6:35:24 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Fine. Schools should self-insure. When someone has a legitimate claim, the school should pay it without going to court. When someone has a frivolous claim, the school should fight it for decades, until the parasite is dead of old age, while pointing out to potential jurors that rewarding the greedy claimant will merely raise taxes on their neighbors and reduce funding for the school’s real work.


19 posted on 06/22/2013 6:38:12 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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If EMC Insurance Companies get away with such a restriction, which gives aid and comfort to the enemy, then the next step for hate-America insurance companies, like EMC, is to refuse to insure homes in which the homeowners exercise their second amendment rights.

One wonders if there is leftist political pressure being applied to insurance companies in Kansas or elsewhere.


23 posted on 06/22/2013 6:45:40 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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"Apparently the company perceives those who complete the process of obtaining a concealed carry permit, which includes a firearms safety class and complete background check, not qualified and too much of a financial risk. "

It actually shows that insurance underwriters are by their nature a conservative bunch and don't like to assume risks. It also shows why it pays to shop around for insurance -- car insurance, life insurance, health insurance -- and school liability insurance. I'm unaware of any insurance company that found itself in trouble because of liberal underwriting policies. It's usually investing assets in areas where they are clueless that is the financial risk and gets insurance companies into trouble.

28 posted on 06/22/2013 6:53:16 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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The names, pictures and political affiliations of the majority stockholders, directors, officers and managers of the companies in question should be immediately published. Interesting patterns will develop if this policy is implemented.


35 posted on 06/22/2013 7:12:40 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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One of the factors is what I call specialty insurance coverages. It’s difficult to find companies to write certain coverages. For example there are exactly two insurers that will underwrite for fire departments in West Virginia. If there are only three companies that will insure schools in Kansas, that makes it difficult to apply armstrong tactics like taking your business elsewhere.

Insurance companies are notoriously risk adverse. If the risk can’t be quanitified at an acceptible level by their actuaries, they won’t include the risk under the coverages.

I’m not excusing them. It’s just that there aren’t many options other than deputizing the teachers. That raises the bar significantly for defending a school.


40 posted on 06/22/2013 7:55:47 AM PDT by meatloaf
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easy,

then they can not do business in the state FOR ANY INSURANCE.

This is odd given that armed teachers would LOWER liability.


41 posted on 06/22/2013 8:33:54 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Pass law allowing school to waive coverage for armed teachers using weapons.


42 posted on 06/22/2013 9:26:30 AM PDT by Raycpa
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