The State Theatre [Culpeper VA] to host world premiere of 'Copperhead'

Culpeper Star Exponent ^ | 5:14 am, Sun Jun 23, 2013.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Here are two more.

I assme they got the name "copperhead" from removing the head of Liberty from a copper coin and making a pin out of it.

[donmeaker]

The constitution is not silent on secession. Like other issues that affect both the federal government and the states, secession must either occur by mutual consent of the federal government and the states, so there is no controversy, OR there is a controversy, and it must be resolved by law, with the supreme court as original jurisdiction, per Article 3.

[donmeaker]

The cause of the war was slavery for the south. The cause of the war was retaining the Union for the north.

What you decided was important, decided what side you were on.

Without Union, WWI could have occurred in North America. Only the Union, and the system of laws created by the union, prevents controversy from periodically breaking down into war in the US.

[donmeaker]

Some didn’t remove the liberty head, wearing the penny itself. They wouldn’t spend a penny for the Union.

Amusing that Lincoln is on the head of our Cent today.

[donmeaker]

Lincoln held that normally the federal government had no authority to interfere with states’ domestic institutions. He was sure that the federal government had the same plenary power over territories that states exercised over the state territory.

His platform was for the federal government to ban slavery from the territories. That would have continued the Framers’ intent to put slavery on the road to extinction.

Of course once any slave states began their insurrection, the plenary power shifted from the states to the federal government, justifying the Emancipation Proclamation.

[Repulican Donkey]

Framers’ intent? There was an “insurrection” only because Lincoln refused to allow states to leave a union into which they had entered freely. Lincoln assumed dictatorial powers: suspended habeas corpus, stifled free speech, invaded his own country..the list goes on.

[rockrr]

The insurrection started before Lincoln assumed the office.

[donmeaker]

Also, the southern states, by the constitution were bound by it, to include the section that required controveries between the states and the federal government be resolved by law, with the SCOTUS as original jurisdiction. If there was no controversy, that is if the other states and the federal government all agreed that a state should go, then that could have been accomplished by law, by amendment, or by treaty. Absent those, a state desiring secession had a controversy, and should have filed a suit.

They had no case, and no southern state ever filed such a suit. They had no agreement, and no amendment to the constitution or law permitting their secession was ever passed.

Accordingly, seccession as practiced in 1860-1865 was unconstitutional, per Texas v. White.