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Edward Snowden asks Ecuador for asylum
BBC ^ | 23 June 2013 | BBC

Posted on 06/23/2013 10:42:54 AM PDT by SgtBilko

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To: plain talk

A bullet for whom? The govt workers who were illegally spying on Americans? The pols who allowed it to happen?


51 posted on 06/23/2013 11:49:13 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: livius

The question is: Where should he go to instead ?


52 posted on 06/23/2013 11:50:55 AM PDT by SgtBilko
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To: SgtBilko

How many threads do we need on this? Geez. You joined today to post this? This is being discussed here already!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3034610/posts?q=1&;page=1


53 posted on 06/23/2013 11:51:59 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: SgtBilko

Ecuador - where the concept of a free press is increasingly under attack !

As someone posted elsewhere, it’s interesting that Wikileaks, Manning and now this guy only attack Western democracies then hide in near dictatorships.


54 posted on 06/23/2013 11:53:20 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Bshaw

Unfort, there are those here that, knowing Congress VOTED to allow the abuse of the 4th, let alone 9th/10th, would still vote for those with an (R) after their names come election time.

‘National security’ (against???..’cuz I see the S. border, Boston bombing, etc. sieves) seems to trump all other Rights.


55 posted on 06/23/2013 11:58:35 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: caww
Snowden’s just the pawn he’s moving on the gameboard.

This is fox hunting not chess. Fox hunting is for elitists.

You be rooting for the fox hunters.

I am a nothing. I am a nobody. I be nothing more than some stupid serf who pays the bills for Big Brother and the NWO Big Brotherhood.

I be rooting for the fox.

Fast Eddie being played by most everyone.

But sometimes the Fox hunters overplay their and the fox escape, living free and dying a natural death.

Fast Eddie being played but it too early to tell who wins.

56 posted on 06/23/2013 11:59:32 AM PDT by metafugitive
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To: metafugitive
Hastings was dangerous because he was looking into botched shipments of American arms out of Benghazi

He was ?

57 posted on 06/23/2013 12:02:09 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Timber Rattler
The information he gave the Chinese and Russians was not about spying on Americans, but about spying on them, and real damage was done.

Do you have a link?
58 posted on 06/23/2013 12:05:10 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: eastforker
Wife and I are looking into retiring there in the next year or so.

Having looked into it, I would not do that unless one of you speaks fluent Spanish.

59 posted on 06/23/2013 12:07:31 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: 1066AD

And what happens when those governments change? Correa isn’t going to be in power forever - if he doesn’t die in office, he could deposed in a coup or there may even be an uprising or revolution.

Suppose Snowden does indeed go to Ecuador, as seems likely. Five years from now, the Correa government is replaced - one way or another - by a pro-American government, or at least one that’s non-hostile to the US.

I guess then Fast Eddie goes on the run again, or risk the new government deporting his ass back to the USA.


60 posted on 06/23/2013 12:10:06 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: tsowellfan

There is a difference between the Wikileaks leaks and the Obama / NSA leaks and that is that the Obama snooping involves ordinary people, not politically elite, or those with foreign Al Qaeda connections. The way the snooping was conducted under Bush, most of us felt pretty secure that our own communications were not being monitored by the government.

The bigger problem now, though, is that the Obama administration has already proven that nothing is below them, that they will stop at nothing and that the abuse of power is a regular method of operation. Obama uses his union minions to do the dirty work for him and does not leave his fingerprints on any of it, unless it involves an executive order. Most of the time, Obama only has to use a dog whistle to direct his union workers.


61 posted on 06/23/2013 12:12:09 PM PDT by Eva
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To: metafugitive

lololol.....


62 posted on 06/23/2013 12:12:10 PM PDT by caww
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To: Kennard

After speaking to the many expats that live there, we are told only minimal spanish is needed to get by. Wifes spanish is a little rusty but I am sure it will all come back to her in a short period.


63 posted on 06/23/2013 12:12:23 PM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: metafugitive

I’m not sure why anyone thought Iceland was even in the cards.


64 posted on 06/23/2013 12:13:28 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: maine-iac7

There is an article on Drudge that I haven’t read yet, that says that the FISA courts do not follow the law, they are above it.


65 posted on 06/23/2013 12:14:25 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Arthurio

Snowden knew Assange has a base there...so a “safe” haven of sorts...and initially they were working the ground there for him.


66 posted on 06/23/2013 12:15:20 PM PDT by caww
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To: 1066AD
Hastings was dangerous because he was looking into botched shipments of American arms out of Benghazi

He was ?

He was looking into events surrounding the Benghazi cover-up. The Benghazi cover-up is well documented.

What was being covered up can only be speculated upon.

That is the best speculation which has some basis in fact.

67 posted on 06/23/2013 12:16:16 PM PDT by metafugitive
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To: Timber Rattler

Thank you.


68 posted on 06/23/2013 12:16:30 PM PDT by waxer1 (A Republic if you can keep it--Benjamin Franklin. Well we lost it.)
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To: caww

Iceland is a small country dependent on exports to Western countries. Even with a place like Venezuela, he would have to be worried about being swapped in exchange for a deal to allow more Citgo stations to open, or something like that.


69 posted on 06/23/2013 12:20:48 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: Yorlik803
Wonder if obama will send fighters to intercept and force it to land here?

If that happens, maybe Jarrett would let him dust off his military uniform!


70 posted on 06/23/2013 12:23:12 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: SgtBilko
Hong Kong officials said Mr Snowden had left "on his own accord for a third country through a lawful and normal channel" because the US extradition request was incomplete and there was no legal basis to restrict him from departing.

Perhaps it was incomplete by design?

71 posted on 06/23/2013 12:27:23 PM PDT by fso301
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To: toldyou

Ecuador ain’t Venezuela and gossip of a cuban stewardess ain’t confirmed news from the BBC.


72 posted on 06/23/2013 12:30:30 PM PDT by SgtBilko
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To: caww

Yes, I wonder if Snowden realized it? Or if this is part of his strategy, perhaps.


73 posted on 06/23/2013 12:30:37 PM PDT by livius
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To: Bshaw

I agree. Snowden is my hero for disclosing that it is not our government spying on us, but a corporation making a profit. The media doesn’t say much about that aspect because they are in the same club. They profit by screwing us too.

When corporations have a profit motive to screw the people, just as they do with speed or red light cameras, and bribing judges to send more inmates to private prisons, our freedom and democracy are hanging by a mere thread. Katrina had private contractors taking firearms from LA citizens. Fascism is here now.


74 posted on 06/23/2013 12:31:50 PM PDT by apoliticalone (When banksters want what you own they'll use eminent domain. But first they want your firearms.)
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To: SgtBilko

No kidding!

It has already been discussed, in that thread, that he’s heading to Ecuador. You have to read past headlines to get more information.


75 posted on 06/23/2013 12:37:02 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: SgtBilko

I can’t make logic out of this story. The bottom line is that It looks like no one respects Obama, and I wonder if that is the whole point..


76 posted on 06/23/2013 12:41:08 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: SgtBilko
One can trust Russians to be Russians, and Putin has a prize in hand.

In other words, Snowden isn't getting out of Russia for some time ... if ever.

Stay tuned.

77 posted on 06/23/2013 1:17:27 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Truth2012
The bottom line is that It looks like no one respects Obama.

Good observation.

Sad news is that America might go down forever ... thanks to Obama and Obamanites.

78 posted on 06/23/2013 1:26:39 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: SgtBilko

Money may have something to do with it.....Ecuador currency is the US dollar........he would not have to worry about currency conversion....and easier to get him funds while in ECU


79 posted on 06/23/2013 1:33:36 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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To: livius

Who knows what Snowdens realized, ..I see him as the puppet of Assange so it really doesn’t make a difference in my assessment of him...either way he is a traiter... regardless of the immature and childish motives he’s given....his actions now have confirmed that he is.

Assange is one bad character if you look into his motives and thinking...unfortunately he’s an incrediably intelligent man who masks his intentions by manipulating his listeners...and he’s masterful at doing so....when in fact his desire is to interfer with leaders diplomacy, outcomes of wars and BE an actor on the World Stage.

He seeks the very same “Power” he accuses Government Leaders of.

Snowdens just one of his followers he’s managed to recruit and willingly so..they share many similar ideals.


80 posted on 06/23/2013 1:48:53 PM PDT by caww
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To: apoliticalone

“Katrina had private contractors taking firearms from LA citizens.”

Really? I hadn’t heard that. What private contractors participated in that? I might be up on a repeated criminal mischief charge had I been on the receiving end of those contractors BS.

Were they somehow deputized? If so, by whom?


81 posted on 06/23/2013 1:51:01 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: txrefugee
According to all the “experts” in the msm and government, this stupid high school drop out can’t outsmart the CIA, FBI, DOJ, NSA, DHS, etc etc....right???

They're lazy government employees, so maybe that will answer your question.

82 posted on 06/23/2013 2:20:26 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: sean327

The US is currently run by a Socialist clown in the same vein as Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro.


83 posted on 06/23/2013 2:34:44 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Drug abuse is not a victimless crime ... look at what Obama is doing to the country!)
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To: hoosierham

Enjoyed your post and your speaking from your heart.


84 posted on 06/23/2013 2:57:04 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: SgtBilko

If he goes to any of our enemies (and Ecuador *is* our enemy,although not an important one) then he becomes a filthy Communist scumbag to me.If he comes here I might be willing to put him back into my “could be a hero,could be a scumbag” column.


85 posted on 06/23/2013 3:15:56 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: SgtBilko

I think he’d be safer in Ecuador’s London embassy.


86 posted on 06/23/2013 3:17:43 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: hoosierham

I agree. Besides, doing the whistleblower thing the ‘government’ way doesn’t appear to work out all that well and I’m thinking that there are cases that we will never know about because the blowers are dead.


87 posted on 06/23/2013 3:37:55 PM PDT by relentlessly
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To: Timber Rattler

You know this how? Reported in our free, liberty loving, constitution revering press? Oh, ok it must be true then.


88 posted on 06/23/2013 3:54:33 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: caww

I don’t think Assange has orchestrated this whole thing. He is sitting in an Embassy while Snowden is on the move in a complicated maneuver.

Assange may be the front man for this Move Snowden operation but he is not a principal.

Leak after Leak after Leak and I doubt the leaks are done for Obama.

Before we knew the name Snowden many felt that it could be the CIA behind the many leaks as payback.

It still could be.....

I doubt we ever see the really good stuff. He is probably using it as leverage to keep himself alive.


89 posted on 06/23/2013 3:54:49 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Timber Rattler

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One of Obama’s brothers has lived in China for many years -

Valerie Jarrett - the invisible advisor to “Flexible Hoser” Obama - was born in Iran -

- and you are worried about the Russkies and Chi-Coms being a huge threat to Americans now as Obama pours weapons into the bloody hands Al Qaeda in Syria?

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90 posted on 06/23/2013 3:54:55 PM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- it not unlegal iffen I do*s it ----- ----- -----)
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To: Timber Rattler
I thought that he said he didn’t care what happened to him?

Oh, I don't think he gave up his desire to stay alive.

And he doesn't matter in this anyway. It's what he told us that matters. Our government is collecting our personal data -- this comment on this post, for example. I'm glad he told us.

Given the information I have of him now, I wish him well.

91 posted on 06/23/2013 4:29:18 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The Eurozone policy might best be described as "Laurel and Hardy Carry a Piano Upstairs.")
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To: RummyChick; caww

I wonder why he chose to become public as he could have remained anonymous like so many others. I ask that even after seeing his past profile (and emails) in the UK Daily Telegraph where he displays the characteristics of self-aggrandizment/ narcissism.


92 posted on 06/23/2013 4:31:31 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: SgtBilko

Snowden’s quality of life looks like it might be taking a turn for the worse.


93 posted on 06/23/2013 4:43:37 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Bshaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

They might look like police but they were tyrants.


94 posted on 06/23/2013 4:52:08 PM PDT by apoliticalone (When banksters want what you own they'll use eminent domain. But first they want your firearms.)
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To: metafugitive

If old Chavez had not kicked the bucket, he would gladly let him in.


95 posted on 06/23/2013 5:37:25 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: SgtBilko

This kid is going to be excoriated by the press. By the time it is all over the sheeple will have forgotten that he revealed just how much NSA is spying on innocent people. It will only be remembered that he was a misguided traitor.

So sad.

Surely our end is near.


96 posted on 06/23/2013 6:09:36 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Timber Rattler

Because he wouldn’t be able to win or prove anything in court. He’d be assassinated first.


97 posted on 06/23/2013 6:09:48 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

What makes you so certain Obama wouldn’t have a commercial airplane shot down in another country’s sovereign airspace?


98 posted on 06/23/2013 6:10:57 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: PA Engineer

The information he gave the Chinese and Russians was not about spying on Americans, but about spying on them, and real damage was done.

“Do you have a link?”

a link for what, misinformation? Are you really going to believe a news source today. OMG he sold out the US to the Ruskies (AP).

PA Engineer, I could send you hundreds of links stating clearly a racist white guy stalked a scrawny, scared, skittle eating preteen and shot the kid in cold blood. Credible news too.

And this is not directed at you PA, just a general statement. All the clowns here who harp on “leak the info through proper channels and work it thru the system”.....meditate on George Zimmerman and tell me about honest legal means under this regime.

All will obey; the military, MSM, DOJ, your local law, etc. Quiet war going on. pick a side folks.


99 posted on 06/23/2013 6:16:09 PM PDT by roofgoat
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To: wastedyears

I trust the men and women in the cockpits of our fighter aircraft that would adjudge it to be an illegal, unwarranted and unconstitutional order from the Commander, and in adherence to both our US Constitution which supercedes, and standard international laws and protocols, would refuse the order and return to base to face the consequences. I do believe there are still those in our US military who put the US Constitution over and above Obongo and his stupid orders and would never accept an order to shoot down a fully loaded civilian commercial airliner in international airspace. Elements of the US military might also be in support of this. We would probably have a split in our government if it came to that and an attempted or successful coup d’etat as such a command being the last straw.


100 posted on 06/23/2013 6:34:32 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Kim Jong Un won't have a single "bad underwear day" unless/until we've a patriot in the White House)
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