Posted on 06/26/2013 7:12:46 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty
Edited on 06/26/2013 7:25:51 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Text of decision here.
A lot of the problems go away once the commie systems are destroyed
Giving government power enables that power to be seized by the unscrupulous. That power can be wielded against society. That power has been given and has been wielded by the unscrupulous to bend society in ways it did not desire.
We have to take away their tools:
income tax, social security, medicaid/care, PPACA (Obama’s commiecare), govt schools/curriculum
These are used to whittle away freedom, and to train people to docilely accept it.
What this ruling is “all about” is eliminating any vestige of the Peoples’ ability to govern themselves in any consequential manner.
If you cannot pass laws that “legislate morality” and you cannot pass laws that “discriminate”, you can’t pass any laws worth having.
I’m not so concerned about this specific question, since I regard marriage between two persons of the same sex to be impossible. But the larger issue - that the California constitutions initiative feature is void, for example - is part of the post-1948 movement to circumscribe and eventually to eliminate republican government - and that’s a very big deal.
They got their big government, their socialist healthcare, their taxpayer funded abortion. They're currently destroying the military and our industrial might, and Obama is making America the laughing stock of the world. From superpower to flat busted and defenseless in less than five years of Obama. If they now get "gay rights" and open-borders amnesty, our last hill is the 2nd amendment. And they're definitely ramping up to take that. I don't put much hope in the likes of McCain, Graham, Flake, Rubio, McConnell, Boehner, Ryan, and the rest of the hornless, wooly RINO herd to suddenly grow spines. Very few dependable conservatives left in the GOP. Tokyo Rove must be awfully proud of himself. The last stand will be up to we the people. Praying we're up for it. Praying the Chicoms, Russians and their ilk don't decide now is the time before we get a chance to recover.
LMAO!!! consummation and procreation go hand in hand. Society did not come to grant privilege and respect to marriage because of LOVE. It gas everything to do with procreation and raising children -ding ding -CONSUMMATION!
Reality at a minimum requires the possibility of consummation REGARDLESS any exceptions. Exceptions to the rules do not make the rules. As to homosexual sex it is not an exception -it is a consummation IMPOSSIBILITY.
Homosexual LOVE does not benefit and is as such irrelevant to society to all but delusional leftists.
Are you a delusional leftist?
You have it right, Mr. R.
That's correct, if it's all about "equal protection." Then, all other married scenarios must be allowed and protected.
May God help us save our country from this tyranny and debauchery.
Ping!
I’m not surprised.
Bump that.
What’s your brilliant plan with spousal visas?
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I would assume, that the feds would handle a spousal visa the same way they currently handle a spousal visa.
If a state say's someone is married, then the feds go with that.
From the bench today or rumors? No, neither.
I will assume you are simply naive rather than assuming you argue for homosexual sex premised couplings benefits.
Marriage has been recognized by society and granted reward respect and privilege because of one thing -CHILDREN!
Nothing to do with love, companionship, sharing house chores, poetry, yadda yadda.
Society has never IMPOSED child bearing nor demanded proof of ability or intent. Any exceptions to the rule are for the most part ignored because they would be near impossible to glean and as such enforce.
FACT: Homosexual sex procreation is not an exception; it is an impossibility.
(WHY DO I FEEL I ARGUE WITH LEFTISTS ON FR, IS THE COUNTRY THAT FAR GONE?(
That's next on the agenda, by the way."
That's correct. This ruling, while not fully what the gay's wanted...
is just a stepping stone to get there.
And then some.
The decision FORCES gay “marriage” upon America! It’s gonna be a Homo Hoedown in San Francisco tonight!
That’s incorrect.
Essentially, the SCOTUS decision says that the case was properly heard before the U.S. District Court of N. CA. (Judge Walker) because the State of CA was defending Prop 8 at that time. The case was not properly heard before the 9th Circuit because the voters who brought the initiative have no legal standing to defend Prop 8 in the federal court system. They can only do so in CA under CA law.
We might as well go all in on the homo issue and start a movement to draft a Constitutional amendment defining it a monogamous and heterosexual. It would take 38 states to ratify such an amendment and there are already 34 with laws or state constitutional amendments prohibiting homos from marrying. With off-year elections coming up, I have no doubt we could get the legislatures in an additional 4 states to ratify. Then we can put an end to this abominable farce once and for all.
Otherwise, homo “marriage” will very shortly be the law of the land.
So what you’re saying is that someone should be admitted to America, because of the immigration laws in one state.
Marvelous.
So how, exactly, is this different than CA passing Amnesty and giving papers to everyone who crosses the CA border that they can give them to go anywhere in America?
Immigration is a federal power, granted by the constitution.
Fixed it. There is a difference.
"“We have never before upheld the standing of a private party to defend the constitutionality of a state statute when state officials have chosen not to,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the majority opinion. “We decline to do so for the first time here.”[1]
I’d be 100 percent behind a crusade like this. With 38 and a constitutional amendment it would stop O from cramming anything down the hatch.
Let me know what you and JimRob devise and I’ll do what I can.
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