Posted on 06/26/2013 7:40:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
On the third day of testimony in the George Zimmerman murder trial, the prosecution called what could be the most pivotal witness of all: Rachel Jeantel, the friend who was on the phone with 17 year-old Trayvon Martin until moments before Zimmerman shot and killed him. In the early part of her testimony, Jeantel described her conversation with Trayvon, in which he notices a man looking at him, a man Jeantel says Martin described as a “creepy, white, kill-my-neighbors cracker,” and a “creepy-ass cracker,” to which she joked that he “might be a rapist.”
The credibility of Jeantel’s testimony is crucial, because it establishes George Zimmerman as the aggressor, and contradicts the defense’s contention that Mr. Zimmerman did not pursue Trayvon Martin after the police dispatcher instructed him that they didn’t need him to do that. The phone call also represents a two-minute overlap between the time Zimmerman hung up woth the dispatcher, and when he made contact with Trayvon Martin.
The prosecution asked Rachel Jeantel what Trayvon Martin was complaining to her about on the phone, as he walked home.
“That a man just kept watching him,” she replied.
After the judge overruled a defense objection, the prosecutor continued, “Did you say anything back to him or did he say anything back to you?”
“Yes,” Jeantel replied. “I asked him how the man looked like. He just told me the man — the man looked creepy.”(continued)
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funny how the whole white hispanic thing disappeared once they learned he was part black even. Shamelessly no one from the media that was pushing the white cracker theme recanted their story.
Thank you for the clarification. At some point I had read George decided, at some point, to return to his truck. Is this where their fight started? Or were they found a distance from his truck?
Or hired Mexicans......
It's called acting and it's for the benefit of the jury........
The last thing an attorney wants is for a jury to view HIM as a bully....
Strap yourselves in for today. Dee Dee probably had a meltdown last night having been instructed by the judge not use the Internet by searching or tweeting about the case. I think that rule applies to her as well as the jury.
Same time you did....
This may be technically correct, but if Zimmerman started the fight there will be very little sympathy for him by anyone. Trayvon might have been a very bad person, but it is very likely he was just some dude walking home (according to the evidence) when he got accosted by Zimmerman. Anyone winding up dead in this situation will get the sympathy.
A young man is dead and Zimmerman did it. This is a matter of fact and not nder debate. The State has proved this....as you might say. Therefore, Zimmerman has to prove it was justifiable homicide....or he’s in big freakin’ trouble....whether anyone likes it or not.....
Of course he would. It's street-thug shorthand for "that guy." Nothing irregular in its usage in this case.
I argue about this with my office mate a lot. If Zimmerman pulled a gun, touched him, or just got ‘big’ in his face, Trayvon would be justified, imo, of striking Zimmerman. Do you agree? If Zimmerman just struck an authoritative attitude, Trayvon probably over-reacted...again, in my opinion.
The bottom line is: I seem to lean towards Trayvon making the final ‘stupid over-reaction’ that caused his death, but the fact that Zimmerman got everything rolling by his actions makes him look really bad.
So... when did our justice system get flipped over to where the accused has to prove his innocence?
I know that may be the de facto situation here, but you seem to imply that this is how it should be in this case.
Zimmerman is guilty of homicide...or at least admits to homicide. Right? The question before the court is: Was it justifiable homicide?
Zimmerman sort of has to prove he had to kill Trayvon...if he wants to avoid jail. To me, that means the defense has to show Trayvon attacked Zimmerman. If they can’t show this, Zimmerman goes down. Thats the way I see it.
Here are some things that need explanation:
1. If Tray made it to the backyard of his dad’s girlfriend’s house while talking to W8, why didn’t he just go inside?
2. If Tray was “scared”, why did he call W8 and not 911?
3. Why doesn’t Tray’s body have any bruises, marks, etc. if George was the aggressor?
4. Attorney on TV last night said that Tray’s pants had grass stains on the knees, indicating he was kneeling.
5. George wore a red rain coat and it was soaked on the back, indicating he was lying on his back.
6. Other witness said the person on top (during scuffle) was wearing dark clothing.
7. I understand Tray’s phone was in his pocket. Did he put it there in anticipation of attacking George from behind?
Inquiring minds want to know....
The state has already proven Zimmerman killed Martin. That is done. The defense, therefore; has to prove it was justifiable....or the prosecutor has to prove it was not justifiable. Either way, the defense is in a bad situation because Zimmerman made so many bad decsions....even if Martin over-reacted in the end, Zimmerman is still in a tight spot. It sucks.
and you see it wrong.
That is NOT the way our system of justice is supposed to work.
The first two questions are answerable with “He’s a tough guy” and “F*** the po-leese.” The rest of it is very interesting information that surely would’ve closed the investigation as justifiable homicide if not for enormous political pressure from the POTUS on down.
lol, a fifth grader could own this idiot. The judge told her to read to herself, because the judge was afraid she couln’t actually read.
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