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I looked on aclj.org, and their stuff doesn't cover this...any clue? As I write my points above I am astonished how there are some like McCain, Gramnesty, Rubio who will sell out our country to advance their kingdoms. Unbelievable. Help.
1 posted on 06/27/2013 5:16:58 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich
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To: CincyRichieRich

Why are you associating with idiots?


2 posted on 06/27/2013 5:19:37 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: CincyRichieRich
http://www.heritage.org/issues/immigration
3 posted on 06/27/2013 5:19:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: CincyRichieRich

“My friend thinks since the bill is “bi-partisan”, then it must be good for the country.”

I ran into this on Sunday. The other side is convinced that these immigrants will be out there picking our tomatoes for us and that nobody else wants to pick them. But, once they’re legal they can more easily get on the welfare train and they won’t be picking fruit or working farms. Also, the changing demographic to non-white, not-educated, not-English-speaking means disaster. Nobody but the Democrats will win out of this one and America is the loser. How will adding anywhere from 11-50 million new citizens who don’t speak English and hold us in distain help the country? The answer is that our politicians are traitors. As for your friend, find another one. If he doesn’t see this he never will and he’s not worth your time.


6 posted on 06/27/2013 5:22:06 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: CincyRichieRich

http://www.myheritage.org/news/why-did-the-senate-advance-an-amnesty-bill-they-didnt-even-have-time-to-read/?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_content=062513&utm_campaign=memberbriefing

Not to mention it means AMERICAN jobs will go to the new visa holders, and with real unemployment at or near 17% we do not need more immigrants either legal or illegal invaders. Especially since most of those visas are going to ME type countries.....


7 posted on 06/27/2013 5:23:00 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Ask what he (and you) will be paying out for products and services as a result of this.

Ask how DC pols are impacted.


11 posted on 06/27/2013 5:27:07 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Drug dealers are flooding across the border, killing ranchers, border patrol agents and others. Not only that but Al-Qaeda affiliates have been caught coming across as well. The border simply must be sealed.

The Immigration bill says that current sealing efforts can stop if the Homeland Security Secretary says so (and she does). What a joke to the spouses and family of those who have died.

Also, it is another bill, as Nancy Pelosi has so famously said that “we have to pass it to see what is in it”. But already this massive monstrosity already has enough pork in it to clog America’s arteries.

We need serious immigration reform, especially for the current process of anchor babies and that of not deporting criminal aliens. Neither are addressed seriously in this bill. Bank on it.

We need to honor current legal immigrants already going thru the citizenship process and not bump the illegal ones ahead of them.

Oppose this bill with all you’ve got.


12 posted on 06/27/2013 5:28:26 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: CincyRichieRich

ask your friend a simple question: How many illegals WANT to become US citizens?...and do they expect to give up their other countries allegiance?


13 posted on 06/27/2013 5:28:49 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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Slow path to progress for U.S. immigrants: 43% on welfare after 20 years

The study, which covers all immigrants, legal and illegal, and their U.S.-born children younger than 18, found that immigrants tend to make economic progress by most measures the longer they live in the U.S. but lag well behind native-born Americans on factors such as poverty, health insurance coverage and homeownership.

The study, based on 2010 and 2011 census data, found that 43 percent of immigrants who have been in the U.S. at least 20 years were using welfare benefits, a rate that is nearly twice as high as native-born Americans and nearly 50 percent higher than recent immigrants.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/8/slow-path-to-progress-for-us-immigrants/

so more amnesty from republicans helps our country how again?


15 posted on 06/27/2013 5:30:06 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: CincyRichieRich
My friend thinks since the bill is "bi-partisan", then it must be good for the country.

Your friend is hopeless if he thinks that anything that the Democrats and GOPe come up with is good for the country. When have they ever done anything that was good for the counry.

16 posted on 06/27/2013 5:30:16 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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“... 55,322 criminal aliens were arrested a total of at least 459,614 times, averaging over eight arrests per alien. The Department of Justice expressed its surprise at the ‘extremely high’ rate of re-arrests for criminal aliens when it found that that 73 criminal aliens in a study group were arrested a total of 429 times.”

...quoting a Government Accounting Office (GAO) study.

Reflect on those numbers for just a minute.

This GAO study is only counting the number of arrests! And that should bring two questions immediately to mind:

How many actual crimes did these 55,322 criminal aliens actually commit?

How is it even conceivable that each of these illegal aliens could be arrested on average a total of almost nine times?

To at least partially answer the second question, you only need to look at so-called “sanctuary cities.”

Sanctuary cities are localities across the United States where liberal mayors and local legislators have instituted policies that prohibit law enforcement from cooperating with federal immigration agents and prohibit them from even questioning the immigration status of anyone they arrest.

But to add more insult to injury, many American cities even allow illegal aliens to obtain free health care, food stamps and a whole assortment of government goodies without having their immigration status questioned.

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05646r.pdf


17 posted on 06/27/2013 5:32:29 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

http://www.schumer.senate.gov/forms/immigration.pdf

If your friend takes the time to read this traitorous bill and finds nothing wrong with it, he or she is a lost cause.

Here is just one item about WHEN the fence will be built:

(b) SOUTHERN BORDER FENCING STRATEGY.—
2 (1) ESTABLISHMENT.—Not later than 180 days
3 AFTER the date of the enactment of this Act, the Sec4
retary shall establish a strategy, to be known as the
5 ‘‘Southern Border Fencing Strategy’’, to identify
6 where fencing, including double-layer fencing, infra7
structure, and technology should be deployed along
8 the Southern border.


18 posted on 06/27/2013 5:36:43 AM PDT by RetSignman (Immigration border protection is America's version of the Maginot Line)
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To: CincyRichieRich
What you seek is 'less than intelligent!'

You need to eliminate those who need this information (that you seek) from your 'circle of friends' sooner than later.

20 posted on 06/27/2013 5:51:53 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: CincyRichieRich

Tell your friend that with the passage of the amnesty bill and its application, will come a de facto dictatorship, with both house of congress, the POTUS, and the SCOTUS held by the Democrats (Progressives) in perpetuity, spelling the end of the United States as we’ve known it for 237 years.


21 posted on 06/27/2013 5:53:00 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Oops, this post was supposed to be to you: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3036225/posts?page=19#19


24 posted on 06/27/2013 6:20:52 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

A friend wouldn’t need convincing.


25 posted on 06/27/2013 6:40:39 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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