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Left-lane highway hogs could see fines double for failure to move over (NJ)
Newark Star-Ledger via NJ.com ^ | June 26, 2013 at 4:33 PM | Mike Frassinelli

Posted on 06/27/2013 6:28:15 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Left-lane hogs, beware.

You could be charged double for failing to keep right under a bill passed Monday by the Assembly.

Motorists who clog the left or center lanes instead of using them to pass another vehicle would see fines increase from between $50 and $200 now to between $100 and $300. The bill calls for $50 from each violation going toward signs reminding motorists who enter New Jersey about the state’s stay-right law.

“On behalf of road rage, I move the bill,” said Assemblyman Gilbert “Whip” Wilson (D-Camden), a co-sponsor of the measure, which passed 69-7.

Aside from drinking and driving, failure to keep right is perhaps the most hazardous action on roadways, said Assemblyman Declan O’Scanlon (R-Monmouth), also a co-sponsor. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: highways; leftlanehogs; traffic; trafficfines
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To: PieterCasparzen

The big city west coast, is exactly the same. Good depiction. Perhaps, the start of a novel. You write well.


61 posted on 06/27/2013 2:09:34 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Senator_Blutarski

How bout we just do it the nascar way.. Get under them, get um loose and put um in the ditch, wall or whatever is around to get um outta the way.


62 posted on 06/27/2013 2:52:32 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Olog-hai

What does it say about a society that feels they have a right to choose which laws they obey? The speed limit doesn’t apply to me because I special. I don’t need to yield because I’m special. Many here speak of a slippery slope. Where should you be expected to start obeying the law? Almost any law in Mexico can be bypass with a bribe, La mordida. If illegals see a similar attitude with Americans, they choose witch law they want to obey, why can’t we do the same?

I must meet my parents for dinner.


63 posted on 06/27/2013 3:17:39 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (If you keep your crayons in the box you can't color.)
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To: PieterCasparzen
But you can never be sure if they’re there on any given day

There's an app called Waze for that.

64 posted on 06/27/2013 3:31:04 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

I know. There are detectors, the police have detector detectors.

I grew up. I don’t play games where I can lose my license or even needlessly sit in traffic court on a Tuesday night just so I can go 10 mph faster on the way to work.

I don’t care any more if I’m late. People will just have to deal. If it’s so all-fired important to me, I hoist my @ss outta the house early steada waitin’ till the last minute.

In NJ, on a 45 minute trip, you can be there anywhere between 45 minutes and 90 minutes.

If I need to be somewhere in the morning for sure, I leave 5 or 530 am. I get where I’m going, then look to stop for a leisurely breakfast before I go in to my appertment.


65 posted on 06/27/2013 4:40:01 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: hoosierham

{i}Many times I have been unable to move right because the self-important speedsters are passing me on the right at well above the speed limit.{/i]

Maybe they got tired of waiting for you to get the heck out of the passing lane. I know I don’t like to pass on the right, but I’m not going to sit behind some oblivious driver in the passing lane forever waiting for them to move over.


66 posted on 06/27/2013 5:49:08 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Your post could have been written by me. I expect that the same driving patterns and habits predominate anywhere with high population density and heavy traffic (the Toronto-Niagara corridor, in my case). Some of it even outside of the built-up areas where there’s no excuse - yeah, I’ve seen the idiots that just have to pass me (when I’m in the right lane of two, with my cruise set at 114 kph - speed limit 100 kph - a speed I know will keep me off the cop’s radar), get in front of me, and then slow down to below my absolutely stable speed. So I pass them and resume doing 114, and next thing they do it again. So I take a chance and hammer down to 140 or 150 for a minute (about 85-90 mph) and put them a good distance behind me, and that seems to shake them off and I never see them again.

Still, I think what I said before still applies - if you’re not passing someone in the middle lane (of 3), or about to, there’s no reason to be cruising along in the left lane. But if it’s really busy, and you’re doing a good speed already and generally passing slower traffic (and there’s probably not really anywhere to go faster in front of you, anyway), then staying in the left lane is reasonable. I won’t get out of the left lane where I’m in a groove, so that I can get stuck in slower traffic in the middle lane (where the daydreamers, nose pickers, etc, are, as you say), just so that some guy in a hurry can get 10 car lengths further in the left lane before ending up behind another car going the same speed I was. But outside the built-up areas, when the traffic’s fairly light and you can just as easily do your chosen speed in the right lane as the left? No reason to be in the left.


67 posted on 06/27/2013 6:05:22 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: Olog-hai

Cops would sooner pull you over for flicking you lights to alert the driver ahead of you that they are in the OVERTAKING LANE... and need to move right. Traffic on I-78 moves at 78MPH... I-80...80MPH...

NY drivers are the worst.... but PA drivers commuting to work in NJ are actually better than NJ drivers.... because they are mostly the intelligent people that used to live in NJ but wised up and moved to PA.


68 posted on 06/27/2013 6:07:17 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Olog-hai
NJ has also coincidentally jacked-up the fines on cell-phone use whole driving: $200-$400 for the first offense.

"Safety" is NEVER the reason for this kind of tyranny; Revenue IS.

69 posted on 06/27/2013 6:10:16 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: PieterCasparzen
If you cruise for miles and miles at 80+ in the left lane, you are breaking the law.

Yes SIR, Officer SIR!

What happens on the day you are beyond the limit of your state-allotted Oxygen and Water? Will you arrest yourself?

70 posted on 06/27/2013 6:13:29 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: 1rudeboy

Holy crap I know RIGHT where that is... I-78 eastbound prior to Berkeley Heights... Yeah... there is no tolerance for that... right at where that video ends after the bridge the highway becomes divided by Jersey Barriers. You can make good time there since there is no way for a cop to turn around and come get you... I would hit 136MPH in that stretch just about every day.


71 posted on 06/27/2013 6:13:43 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: -YYZ-

Like I’m going to move when there is a string of idiots that won’t give me a chance!

ALSO THERE ARE TIMES WHEN ONE MUST GET TO THE LEFT LANE WELL AHEAD OF A LEFT TURN.I’ve been unable to move over while doing 50 in a 45 because a stream of speedsters is passing at 60.

A lot of people just think they are too important to follow the speed limits.

To heck with all such.
You wanna play Mario Andretti ?go on a track.


72 posted on 06/27/2013 6:14:04 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Sicon

It’s the people leaving before dawn... without sunglasses... and they don’t know how to work the sunvisor... commuting east in the morning... west in the evening. Everyone else suffers.


73 posted on 06/27/2013 6:15:52 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: PieterCasparzen

You would not last 3 minutes on the Autobahn. The Interstate highway system here is modeled after the Autobahn... speed limits are a result of people being unable to stay right except for overtaking.


74 posted on 06/27/2013 6:22:41 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: trubolotta

There are sections of the Garden State Parkway that are 8 lanes. They made them that way for reason, but this law says everyone needs to stay in the far right lane? Dumb Ass Politicians never saw a law they didn’t love.


75 posted on 06/27/2013 6:23:02 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: Olog-hai
I travel 2-3 thousand miles a month and 80% of folks have no clue about the rule of two-lane travel. Notice that this sign has disappeared from most highways.
76 posted on 06/27/2013 6:33:34 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Rodamala

Wouldn’t have to drive that way on the Autobahn, since in Germany they don’t give a driver’s license to every mouth-breathing moron who can pass a simple multiple guess test, and the middle lane wouldn’t be clogged with idiots barely doing the speed limit, if that. From what I understand, German police actually spend their time enforcing traffic laws, not just generating revenue for infractions against arbitrary and ridiculously low speed limits.


77 posted on 06/27/2013 7:01:22 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: USS Johnston; Rodamala
What happens on the day you are beyond the limit of your state-allotted Oxygen and Water? Will you arrest yourself?

I drive a Mercedes and would prefer no speed limits on highways, Autobahn style. It's built to cruise well over 100 all day, and it does so very safely and comfortably.

But I live in NJ where there are speed limits and very dangerously erratic drivers who have very poor driving skills, as well as our famous dancing deers. There also are a lot that are overconfident that very much overdrive their abilities, the car and the conditions. Every big snowstorm there are a few who can handle it fine, most look ridiculous and many of them have 4wd all sorts of fancies, and coming up the big hills by West Orange on 280 you pass them all spinning like idiots.

I loved one time on a Stossell show (who's way too libertarian for me on many issues) where somebody actually did a study of the classic intersection of two roads, with and without a signal. The data revealed that having no signal produced significantly fewer accidents. Cuz people had to (to put it nicely) "wake up", pay attention and actually drive their cars.

The other key to safety that is no observed nearly enough is simply being polite. I've learned to always give the other person the benefit of the doubt before getting bothered; perhaps they have some medical or car problem. In either case, me getting angry is not going to help their driving. Have patience, take your turn instead of cutting in line, etc. Gotta let things go as much as possible, stay outta trouble. Way too many people in NJ to be goin' all crazy on people you don't know. Gotta chill. Always like havin' a cigar in the car, works wonders to relax.
78 posted on 06/27/2013 9:55:05 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Woodman

I used to work in East Orange and commute to Spotswood via the GSP. A Friday evening in the summer during a rainstorm was guaranteed to produce parking lot conditions for miles and miles with every lane clogged. Longest commute I ever had was 6 hours, leaving the office at 5 and getting home at 11. Wife thought I was out drinking LOL.


79 posted on 06/28/2013 6:00:42 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: PieterCasparzen
Thanks for the intelligent response and explanation. In fact I've read your several posts and actually agree with most of your assessments....and humor.

The one thing I can't agree with though is setting up shop in the fast lane in fine weather at 65 MPH on say the NJ Turnpike or GSP; many times it'll cause those many crazy NJ drivers to pass on the right, causing potential chaos. I use it mostly as a passing lane in any case. Revenue Cherry-Tops lie like wolves awaiting their prey if one stays there too long.

80 posted on 06/28/2013 7:56:35 AM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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