Morse: some recall signatures were forged(Colorado Recall)

kdvr ^ | updated on: 1:01 pm, June 28, 2013 | Eli Stokols

[E. Pluribus Unum]

They cheat if you let them and don't supervise what they are doing.

Is that what you do when you supervise people? Let them run wild?

If the cheating was that bad, they'd have more than 50 fraudulent signatures. The "fraudulent" signatures they do have are Democrat operatives who signed the petition specifically to claim that they didn't.

You really are Saul Alinsky in drag.

[CharlesWayneCT]

More than a thousand in Gingrich’s case. My point stands regardless of your childish and infantile response — the use of paid collectors has caused difficulty, and you are better off using people who actually support your cause, than hired mercenaries.

If you had the ability to supervise them, you’d have a person to actually collect the signatures.

Have you ever actually done a signature drive? It would explain your seeming ignorance.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

You'd still have Democrat operatives signing and claiming they didn't.

Why weren't you out there helping them if you know so much?

They could have really used your expertise.

[CharlesWayneCT]

Yes you would. If that is what happened. Which could have, but there is no evidence of that, just speculation.

We also don’t know for certain there were people being paid, but the article claims people were paid, and that the signatures on the pages turned in by people who were paid were forged.

If the signature was forged, then it wasn’t a democratic operative signing and saying they didn’t. If you had volunteers collecting signatures, they would identify the democratic operatives and testify that they saw them sign the forms (in a typical Virginia collection, every signature must be witnessed, and the person collecting the signature then signs each page with a notary, swearing that they observed each signature).

It would make it much more difficult for a democratic operative to sign a form and then claim they did not.

Of course, if you keep collecting signatures until you run out of time, then it makes no difference how many democratic operatives sign your forms and then claim they didn’t, since they will just be additional signatures above what you needed.

As I do not live in the state, it coule well be illegal for me to go to the state and collect signatures (in Virginia, all people collecting signatures must be eligible voters, although I do not know if other states have that same rule).

So far as I can tell, even if the 50 signatures were thrown out (and they could be on sworn affidavits, it has to be a pretty committed operative willing to go to prison for a year and pay a huge fine just to invalidate ONE signature), there still are more than enough signatures for the recall.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

...there still are more than enough signatures for the recall.

And there probably wouldn't have been without paid solicitors.