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Everything About The George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin Trial Is Awful
The Houston Chronicle's Texas Sparkle ^ | June 30, 2013 | Kathleen McKinley.

Posted on 06/30/2013 4:15:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Everything about the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin trial is awful. Everything. First and foremost we saw the horrific pictures of a dead Trayvon Martin. The news media cameras turned to Trayvon’s parents as they showed them, hoping to catch their grief. I see Trayvon’s mother look away, and my heart breaks into a million pieces for her. I have a 16 year old son. I imagine for a moment it’s him, and I close my eyes with all the anguish I feel in just imagining it. Even if you feel Zimmerman should be acquitted, don’t forget the grief of these parents.

I’m following it, watching it live, trying to look at it objectively, the way a juror might. I follow along with twitter. Twitter seems to bring out the worst in humanity when it comes to race, on both sides. Trust me, if you are following this trial, don’t follow it on twitter.

Why do we feel a need in this society to tear apart people who are involved in a story? We know how everyone came down on Rachel, the friend of Trayvon who was on the phone with him that night. She was not the most articulate witness. God, I hope she didn’t put her name in the search engine of twitter. And believe me, it was bad stuff from both black and white people. Then there was a picture of the daughter of Zimmerman’s attorney eating ice cream with her Dad celebrating his work that day. Not the best idea, but does that justify photoshopping her hashtags with racial slurs to make her look bad? Because people were retweeting it, and thinking she wrote that. Then there were those trolling her friend’s pictures on Instagram looking for something to embarrass her with.....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: alsharpton; florida; traydmark; trayvon; zimmerman
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To: Hulka

That is for sure. He has been worth a lot more to them dead than he was alive.


41 posted on 06/30/2013 6:42:11 PM PDT by sport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
St Skittles was thug and it was just a matter of time before the thug had an altercation with someone with a gun.

He thought GZ was just another thug he could take. His inclination was to fight and not retreat.

He's 17 and a young adult. His culture failed him and he is dead from his own actions.

42 posted on 06/30/2013 7:01:31 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: jacquej
Can anyone explain?

Not sure if it was the same thread, but there was a thread yesterday (or maybe this morning ?), IIRC, that the poster was accused of being a blog-pimp.

The reasons:

It was posted by the owner of the website (the blog)

It was an excerpt (did not contain all the article)

The 'poster' was not responding to anyone's comments.

This 'activity' happens all the time. People try to get people to come to their website so they get hits (i.e. more money).

This is tantamount to FREE ADVERTISING and Jim Robinson doesn't allow ADVERTISING nor accept ADVERTISING for income purposes.

It may be that your son was didn't understand all the 'rules' and was doing what he did in innocence. Perhaps he should have just 'asked' what he was doing wrong. (if he did anything wrong) . I don't know what thread for sure you mean, so I may be way off base.

If your son has a blog, the 'unwritten' rules are that you need to post all of the content of the article, so that readers don't HAVE to go to your BLOG just so you can get hits and they can finish reading the article. If you don't do that, then you are quickly rebuffed and your thread can be removed.

I hope this helps.

43 posted on 06/30/2013 7:39:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Something else I would like to mention about the MEDIA.

The following photo is not a picture of Travyon Martin.

It is a picture of someone else in a hoodie, but a 'youthful' picture of Trayvon was photoshopped in and spread throughout the MSM.


44 posted on 06/30/2013 7:46:07 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2; IChing

Well, the poster was IChing, (my 50 yr old son) but he does not have a blog or any financial interest in one).

He posts to a blog, maybe once a week, and then posts here, because he (probably idealistically) thought Free Republic netizens might be interested.

He always answered to his posts, and offered reasonable comments.

I would have to go back and check to see if he posted the entire content of his articles, every time, as far as I know. If he didn’t, it might have been that he was concerned about the complicated “excerpting” internet rules that confuse us all.

Many newcomers to FR get tangled up in the arcane rule history of FR, and I do worry that we sometimes might be just a tad-bit paranoid in our rush to quick judgement.

That said, obviously we must be on guard for trolls, blog-pimpers, infiltrators, and the usual - NSA recording our every keyboarded word.

I have been on this forum for many years, and as far as I understand, he violated no rules. He only posted to articles that he had written, his own opinion on currant news items of conservative interest.

I guess the only legitimate criticism that could be lodged against him is that he posted in the wrong category. Some Freepers may not consider tapes posted on the net by someone else (other than Rachel Jeantel’s voice) recorded by Crump as not being worthy of “breaking news”.

How are we to know what is considered “breaking news” by the mods?

I am getting really tired of all this, and it has seriously dampened my enthusiasm for this website. That said, he has been re-instated, after review by the mods, but I am still so very saddened at what has happened to a forum that was always my homepage.

My thanks for your clear explanation, FRiend.

That said, it is time for this li’l ol’ lady to retire for the evening. I want to be alert in the morning to see the Zimmerman trial, for I find it very important for the future of justice in our beloved land, and worthy of “breaking news”.


45 posted on 06/30/2013 9:09:38 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: UCANSEE2

Word I had on that old pic was that his skin was lightened a lot because the shadows of the hoodie made him look less cherubic.


46 posted on 06/30/2013 9:22:29 PM PDT by IChing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have you guys SEEN this?? Rachel Jeantel is NOT witness #8!!

It’s a different girl’s voice in the first interview!!

http://www.re-newsit.com/2013/06/how-many-witness-8s-are-there-in.html

I can barely fathom the treachery here. HUGE bombshell of prosecutorial misconduct, unless I’m missing something. Fake/alibi witness used....

Remember, RJ did talk on the stand about many 3-way calls with others when she and Trayvon were on the phone...


47 posted on 06/30/2013 9:23:43 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing
Word I had on that old pic was that his skin was lightened a lot because the shadows of the hoodie made him look less cherubic.

What color hoodie was Trayvon wearing at the 7-11 ?

48 posted on 06/30/2013 9:26:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2; IChing

Sure wish we had an edit button here!

The post that got him “zotted” today was to a totally different site, not one to which he had ever posted an article.

A few Freepers ganged up on him for maybe three or four earlier posts, and some of us old-timers were appalled at the way he was treated by them.

Fortunately, the post was reviewed, and he has been re-instated.

Please keep your eagle eye out for him, and stop this nonsense if it starts up again. He has served his country faithfully for many years, and does not deserve this treatment from some among us.

For those of you who have served, you will know what I mean by the below -

I say again:

My son does not have a blog. He posts his online opinions to a blog, where he is a “guest”, because he thought they might be of interest to the rest of us, and these are in the MSM breaking news stories of the day.

If the Zimmerman trial is not on our list of breaking news regarding the failure of our judicial system, the we Freepers are just “spring peepers”, in a big pot of slowly warming water, too dumb to jump out.

Good night, all. Need some shut-eye before I see which way the temperature goes in tomorrow morning’s water bath.


49 posted on 06/30/2013 9:27:50 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: IChing

I listened to three different recordings today.

It was very difficult to determine if it was or wan’t Rachel.

The real question is, who is DEE DEE. Regardless to what Rachel says, her nickname isn’t DEE DEE.

BUT... there is a DEE DEE involved in the Brandy Green/Tracy Martin home (used loosely). I think I found out who she is.

I could tell you (and will if you can’t find it) but It’s more fun if you find out yourself. Here are the hints.

Who is Brandy Green? Why did she only appear in one press conference, at the very beginning , and hasn’t been heard from since?

Was she living at the Condo with Tracy Martin ? Who else lived at that Condo ?

That should be enough.


50 posted on 06/30/2013 9:32:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2; jacquej

When I initially was posting my ClashDaily.com columns here on FR, I would post an excerpt, for two reasons, 1. I had no clue there was a gestapo organized against such a practice(I haven’t read posting rules since maybe once when I was on FR back in 2004), and 2. I did want to drive readers to the site, but really only out of vanity—I get no money at all from traffic, but I get encouragement to continue writing if my columns get lots of “likes” and “shares” and Tweets from the page itself. Thus began the onslaught from ruthless Freepers accusing me of all manner of transgressions, which took me awhile to process...

Then, I ran into a gang-swarm of the same hostility/got zotted earlier this evening when I posted what I believe to be a HUGE bombshell breaking scandal on the Zimmerman case, and dared link to a blog...whew


51 posted on 06/30/2013 9:37:56 PM PDT by IChing
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To: jacquej

Did you ask the MODS why they removed it ?

It could have been one of several reasons, like on the copyright or ‘do not post’ list.

Do you have a link to that?

It does appear at the top of the forum, before you log in.

Anyway, my interest in this is that neither of you give up. I have had a thread or two pulled, and been banned once, but I always understood or found out why. It always made sense. Even the time I was banned for something that I didn’t do, but another poster lied to Jim about. He unbanned me once he figured that out. So.. like your son, the same happened to me.

Due to the nature of this being an OPEN FORUM, where the owner takes only DONATIONS and gets not HIT MONEY for ADS, and has to abide by COPYRIGHT RESTRICTIONS (Even when they are totally illegal and unfair) and has had to go to court over and pay a huge FINE, then.... it’s not so hard to see how sometimes the innocent get forked over once in a while, and usually only temporarily.

In simpler words, live and learn. But never give up.


52 posted on 06/30/2013 9:42:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

Charcoal grey. Why?


53 posted on 06/30/2013 9:44:16 PM PDT by IChing
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To: Hulka
I would grieve for the parents if they were caring parents.

It seems the 'caring' parent was Alicia, and she has been ignored by the media because she wasn't the 'biological' mother.

54 posted on 06/30/2013 9:44:34 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Conserev1

‘don’t forget the grief of these parents.’

The quest for truth and justice has nothing to do with the grief of the parents.

If the parents never come to grips with the fact that they raised a wannabe thug, then they shall never find peace.


55 posted on 06/30/2013 9:50:03 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: jacquej

Thanks, jacque, and goodnight.

I’ll add that ClashDaily.com is not merely a blog, it’s a phenomenon—Doug Giles of Townhall.com runs it, and it’s growing by leaps and bounds—Doug is the father of Hannah Giles, of the duo with James O’Keefe who posed as prostitute and pimp and took down down ACORN with Andrew Breitbart!

That Freepers would be all up in arms over traffic being driven to such a friendly camp, that they’d go to war over pastor Doug maybe incidentally making a few dimes due to my vanity, is kind of unfortunate.


56 posted on 06/30/2013 9:50:29 PM PDT by IChing
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To: UCANSEE2

Too tired tonight, UCS2.

Will check in tomorrow morning. You youngsters have overnight energy, but I need to snuggle up with my little rescue dog, and “go snoozles”, if you get my drift. (Dog-speak)


57 posted on 06/30/2013 9:50:36 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: jacquej; humblegunner; IChing

Good night. One last suggestion.

Ping HUMBLEGUNNER and give him the same info you gave me.

He is usually the first to notice when an article is posted from a blog, and he checks to see if the poster is just ‘pimping his blog’.

He’s kinda like our GERMAN SHEPERD in the fenced yard. If he don’t know you and you are trying to climb over the fence, he’s gonna bark.

We all have jobs here. I’m the town idiot and Spelling Nazi.

: )


58 posted on 06/30/2013 9:50:53 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: IChing

love you, IChing.

Always have, and always will.


59 posted on 06/30/2013 9:53:08 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Elsie
WHY do we CONTINUE to allow it? Are we so STUPID not to realize you get MORE of what you SUBSIDIZE???

(Hi brother)

Can most of the people in the United States be...that...stupid ? ? ?


60 posted on 06/30/2013 9:53:56 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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