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1 posted on 07/02/2013 10:40:03 AM PDT by William Tell 2
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All you need is a $40,000 car with a $10,000 battery that explodes if it sits around. Wonder what the insurance will be on these things.


2 posted on 07/02/2013 10:43:59 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Too bad you can only use that $1.14 worth once every eight hours.


3 posted on 07/02/2013 10:45:17 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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Are they coming out with E-Battery?

... an app that would compute the cost of a car battery versus and battery for an electric car?


4 posted on 07/02/2013 10:46:46 AM PDT by Alex in chains
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Okay, maybe so! But can you pull a boat with one of those things? How about a trailer?


5 posted on 07/02/2013 10:46:53 AM PDT by the_boy_who_got_lost
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Something about liars and figures comes to mind.


6 posted on 07/02/2013 10:46:53 AM PDT by Truth29
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California released a study today that showed there are NO SAVINGS in using “green” cars. The cost of generating the electricity and the cost of getting rid of the battery waste after the car is wrecked or ruined is detrimental to their use.


8 posted on 07/02/2013 10:49:39 AM PDT by txrefugee
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Oh, but wait for the price after the EPA destroys coal electricity.


10 posted on 07/02/2013 10:51:20 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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OK, I am suspicious as to the $1.14. Give me the calculations on that and also the source. What is the cost of electricity per KW to calculate that. What are your test results that show gallon to Kw equivalent? What car is it that uses so little electricity? How much is electricity going up? What electrical taxes are you going to have to charge for us to repair your roads?

Articles like this create more questions than they answer.


11 posted on 07/02/2013 10:51:27 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Feh.

My Corolla cost me $13,000 (6 years ago).

I can travel about 375 miles at highway speeds >70mph on one charge of the energy storage system, leaving a reasonable safety margin of energy remaining in the energy storage cell. I can recharge the energy storage cell in less than 10 minutes. Recharging stations abound, in a competitive marketplace.

If the purveyors of electric cars wish to succeed in a free market, that is approximately the performance standard they must meet.

12 posted on 07/02/2013 10:52:24 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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This is based on a national average of $$/kwh, but my power bill has another 20% added to it for fees and taxes and these are all percentages of my energy usage, so you can increase that $1.14 by 20% right away even before we start doing the economic analysis for total cost of ownership and battery degradation.


13 posted on 07/02/2013 10:53:01 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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(*if you plug it into your neighbor’s outlet and get the electricity basically for free)


14 posted on 07/02/2013 10:55:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Oh Yeah, I am going to believe anything those sondabi7ches tell me.


15 posted on 07/02/2013 10:56:36 AM PDT by Venturer
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Bringing Skepticism (and Math) to Electric Vehicle Fuel Numbers (blog).

16 posted on 07/02/2013 10:57:35 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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E-Bull$hit


17 posted on 07/02/2013 10:57:44 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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I think it depends partially on the cost of electricity in various areas.I've heard it said that power is really cheap in the Northwest..perhaps because of hydroelectric.I know for a fact that at least some people in Quebec pay 5 cents for a kilowatt hour...I know because I looked it up on the HydroQuebec website.That's one of Quebec's power companies.

I,OTOH,pay just over 20 cents for a kWh.And my understanding is that there are places that pay even more.I don't know what the "national average" is...which is what this figure may be based upon.

18 posted on 07/02/2013 10:58:30 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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Their calculations are correct, considering the heating value of gasoline, the efficiencies of internal combustion and electric motors and the current costs of gasoline and electricity (within regional variation). The issues currently are simply energy density, battery safety, location of recharging stations, and heavy metal poisoning from battery manufacturing. No problems, right? /sarc/
19 posted on 07/02/2013 10:58:54 AM PDT by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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Too many folks shaking the magic 8-ball to come up with these figures, or ... you know where else they get those figures.


20 posted on 07/02/2013 11:00:10 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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He pointed out that the average price paid for a gasoline-powered 2013 Ford Focus ranges from $16,500 to $24,176. While the average price paid for a 2013 Ford Focus Electric is $39,020.

Time for fun with math! We will assume a $3.75 gallon of gas and a $24,167 gas powered Ford Focus. We will also assume 3 gallons of gas used per day for the gas powered car (for a gas powered Ford Focus, that would be around 100 miles per day.)

Now:

3 x $3.75 = $11.25 per day for the gas powered Focus
3 x $1.14 = $3.42 per day for the electric Focus

After 365 days, we will have spent $4,106.25 on gas for the gas Focus and $1,248.30 for the electric Focus. A savings of $2,857.95.

With an initial cost difference of $14,844, it will take 5+ years of driving to break even on the electric car.

Sounds like a long time to see the payoff, honestly.

23 posted on 07/02/2013 11:06:16 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - New Robin Hood book out!)
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$1.14 a gallon: what the price of gas WOULD be if Obama got out of the way of our current national oil boom.


27 posted on 07/02/2013 11:22:28 AM PDT by bolobaby
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Not counting the tax-evasion bill the state will send you for driving on roads that gasoline taxes fund.


28 posted on 07/02/2013 11:22:57 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have known that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional news?)
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