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To: Slyfox

I am trying to figure out the credibility of the people involved.
1. Trayvon’s future step brother calls him and Trayvon says he is on his way home. Future step brother calls Trayvon again and does not get an answer; but does not seemed concerned because he never tried to contact him again or anyone else. At least that we know of.
2. Friend RJ is on the phone with Trayvon and says Trayvon is concerned and she hears a hard breathing man approaching him, hears a bump and wet grass and the phone cuts out. When asked why she didn’t do anything when she couldn’t reach Trayvon again; her response was he said he would call me back or I would call him back. That is two different stories.
3. Dad and girlfriend come home and Trayvon is not there. No concern again? Finally about 8:30am the next day Dad calls to file a missing persons report and says he last saw Trayvon at about 8:30pm the night before; Trayvon does not know anyone in the area. Then he does an interview with People magazine and says he thought he was with a nephew at the movies? In the taped recording he said Trayvon didn’t know anyone in the area.
If your 17 year old was not home when they should be, wouldn’t you make as many calls as needed to find out where they are?

George has told the same story over and over again with very little differences.

The one thing that I am not clear on however, is the fact that GZ says he had TM face down with his hands spread out on the ground. But have also heard that TM was found face down with his hands beneath him. Not sure how his hands would be beneath him if GZ was restraining him with hands spread out.

Could TM position changed when the officer lifted him up to look for the bullets exit? Not sure.

Any insight on this?


12 posted on 07/02/2013 6:05:18 PM PDT by JMOH
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To: JMOH

“Not sure how his hands would be beneath him if GZ was restraining him with hands spread out.”

I think it was in the testimony to Sernio that Z says he restrained him, then the guy with the flashlight came up. Z thought it was the cops (who he called) and got up off of Martin as he figured the “cop” would deal with him. And then I think a real cop did show up in a minute or two.

I’m guessing Z restrained Martin and after a little bit realized that he wasn’t putting up a struggle, trying to flee, etc. so got up to let the “cop” deal with it. And then, after seeing it wasn’t a cop, but also seeing that Martin wasn’t going anywhere - didn’t restrain him further. But Martin still had enough in him to pull his hands to his chest wound. Speculation I know. Not sure I would phrase it like this to the jury. No matter how much of a punk - the actions and thoughts going through someone as they die makes even me a bit sympathetic to them to a certain degree.


13 posted on 07/02/2013 6:16:18 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: JMOH
Could TM position changed when the officer lifted him up to look for the bullets exit? Not sure. Any insight on this?

I really have no idea about that. The thing I have been paying attention to is who claims whose voice is the one screaming out. Trayvon's dad (stepdad?) initially said that the scream was not from Trayvon and no one is making any big deal about it.

25 posted on 07/02/2013 8:38:08 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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