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Trayvon Martin and Black Manhood On Trial (Relying on Rachel's testimony? Huh?)
The Nation ^ | July 2, 2013 | Mychal Denzel Smith

Posted on 07/02/2013 11:34:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Yesterday, the jury in the George Zimmerman murder trial heard, at length, Zimmerman describe in his own words what happened the night he shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. He didn’t take the stand, but the prosecution played for the court three separate audio and video recordings of Zimmerman’s interviews with the police and read aloud his written statement from the night of February 26, 2012. His description of the events were generally consistent with the story he has repeatedly told. But to my mind, the case really comes down to what the jury will believe happened in one specific moment.

Zimmerman says that after the 911 dispatcher told him he did not need to follow Trayvon, he continued walking to find an address so that he could be more specific regarding his whereabouts. Then he got off the phone. It’s during this time that Zimmerman claims that Trayvon came out of either the bushes, or the darkness, and said something to the effect of, “What’s your problem, homie?” to which Zimmerman responded, “I don’t have a problem.” Says Zimmerman, Trayvon replied, “You’ve got a problem now” and proceeded to punch Zimmerman in the face. Zimmerman’s version of the story is contradicted by the state’s key witness, 19-year-old Rachel Jeantel, who took the stand last week. Jeantel, who was one the phone with Trayvon that night for the duration of this event, says Trayvon was attempting to elude Zimmerman, whom he had described as a “creepy ass cracker.” Trayvon, according to Jeantel, believed he had lost Zimmerman, only to then notice that he hadn’t, at which point he told Jeantel, “The nigga is following me.” Jeantel says she then heard Trayvon say, “Why you following me for?” to which Zimmerman replied “What are you doing out here?” She then heard what she described as a bump and wet grass before the call was lost.

Jeantel’s testimony is key because it directly refutes Zimmerman’s version of the event and calls into question who was the aggressor in the resulting tussle. It’s clear that Zimmerman sustained some injuries, while not necessarily consistent with his assertion that Trayvon punched him twenty-five to thirty times and slammed his head on the concrete. It’s likely that a fight took place. But who started it?

On her show Sunday morning, Melissa Harris-Perry asked a question that gets at the heart of why this case is of national importance. Talking with Democracy Now! host Amy Goodman, Harris-Perry said: “It does seem like part of what hinges here is whether or not Trayvon Martin hit George Zimmerman and whether or not he did so first…but why is it that if this person hit someone who was prepared to use lethal force against him…why wouldn’t he have a right to stand his ground? Is that not racialized?” Do black boys get to defend themselves?

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Because it’s clear that, whoever instigated the altercation, Zimmerman followed Trayvon that night. He was instructed not to, but he did anyway. That Zimmerman fumbled for an answer when the lead investigator asked whether he thought Trayvon was afraid of him is emblematic of the way society has trained us to think about black manhood. Of course he didn’t think Trayvon could be scared. Young black men never are. They are the danger. Which is also why, for some, Zimmerman’s story, even with the cartoonish language he ascribes to Trayvon, doesn’t sound far-fetched. A black man jumping from behind the bushes to sucker-punch someone they don’t know and attempt to kill them only a short distance from their home. It makes perfect sense if you believe that black men are preternaturally violent.

The jury will have to decide who they believe in this instance, Jeantel or Zimmerman, and it is this that has me concerned. Brittney Cooper, writing for Salon, captured it succinctly: “…black womanhood, black manhood and urban adolescence are always on trial in the American imaginary.”

Zimmerman’s innocence rests on the notion of Trayvon’s criminality. And in this country, it’s not that difficult to convince six people of the criminality of a 17-year-old black boy.

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Want more from the Zimmerman trial? Read Mychal Denzel Smith’s defense of Rachel Jeantel.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blacks; racheljeantel; trayvon; zimmerman
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This is what the state's case losing looks like.
1 posted on 07/02/2013 11:34:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ROTFLMAO !!!!

Jeantel was hardly credible and her testimony was part perjury, part summoning and yet another part contempt.

Po gurel ...


2 posted on 07/02/2013 11:37:59 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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Zimmerman’s innocence rests on the notion of Trayvon’s criminality. And in this country, it’s not that difficult to convince six people of the criminality of a 17-year-old black boy.

And why might that be, Mychal?

Give it some thought. Consider Trayvon's own behaviorial history. Review his internet postings. See if you can come up with an answer.

3 posted on 07/02/2013 11:42:17 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She then heard what she described as a bump and wet grass before the call was lost.
Don't ax her any more tough questions.

4 posted on 07/02/2013 11:43:25 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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I don't see exactly how Rachel's testimony contradicts Zimmerman in any material way. In fact, going by her testimony, Martin ought to have been safe at his father's apartment. Instead he ends up a football field's length away, directly confronting the evil stalker of whom he was supposedly afraid.

This writer's insinuations to the contrary, young black men are prone to criminality, particularly of the violent kind. And the remainder of the black population provides cover, enablement and support for their criminality. That's a sad, sad state of affairs.

5 posted on 07/02/2013 11:44:21 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The writer wants non-Blacks to disregard the social stereotype of young Black males ? Fine. Then tell young Black males to stop confirming the stereotype.


6 posted on 07/02/2013 11:49:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wonder if he got paid to write this?


7 posted on 07/02/2013 11:53:47 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: onyx

lol!


8 posted on 07/02/2013 11:56:13 PM PDT by South40
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Well said.


9 posted on 07/02/2013 11:57:02 PM PDT by South40
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, Mychal, being a punk *ss druggie who couldn't behave in school might have something to do with it.

10 posted on 07/02/2013 11:57:24 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: onyx
You owe me a new keyboard and a glass of wine. ROTFLMAO

You forgot that extra pack of kielbasa between her chin and collarbone, though. *OINK*


11 posted on 07/02/2013 11:58:02 PM PDT by Viking2002
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It makes perfect sense if you believe that black men are preternaturally violent.

Is that a white or a black straw man?

12 posted on 07/03/2013 12:00:51 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: Viking2002

LOL. Hope I get to buy you that glass of wine someday soon!


13 posted on 07/03/2013 12:03:51 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx
I'm over in 'Bammy. Let me get the grill gazebo up and running, and we'll invite a few fellow Freepers for a good BBQ.

Damn, and I just started microbrewing. I'm getting a germ of an idea in my bowl of cranial mush. Start a list and let's get serious about it.


14 posted on 07/03/2013 12:08:39 AM PDT by Viking2002
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

(from the article): “..“It does seem like part of what hinges here is whether or not Trayvon Martin hit George Zimmerman and whether or not he did so first…but why is it that if this person hit someone who was prepared to use lethal force against him…why wouldn’t he have a right to stand his ground? Is that not racialized?” Do black boys get to defend themselves? “

Did George Zimmerman have brusises on his knuckles ?
Did George Zimmerman have Trayvon Martins DNA under his fingernails ?
Other than a gunshot wound , did Trayvon Martin have any other fresh marks on his body ?
Did George Zimmerman take MMA lessons ?
Did Travon Martin take any MMA lessons ?
Does George Zimmerman have any burglary, or burlary tool, or stolen property arrests ?
Does Trayvon Martin have any burglary, or burglary tool , or stolen property arrests ?
Did George Zimmerman have any toxicology test to determine the use of alcohol or drug usage ?
Did Trayvon Martin have any toxicology test to determine the use of alcohol or drug usage ?
Did George Zimmerman have any legal right to be at that location ?
Did Trayvon Martin have any legal right to be at that location ?

This has nothing to do with ‘Manhood’
This has nothing to do with blacks defending themselves because this is a racialy biased court case, manufactured by the media.
This has nothing to do with blacks defending themselves because this is a politically biased court case, manufactured by the media.
And yes , MMA standards can be used to defend oneself , but only one person used those brutal methods,
and only one person has to live with those eternal scars !!

The media jumped all over this case becasue they thought they had a white Jew killing a black youth growing into his manhood.
They pumped it up, and when shown to be wrong , they couldn’t back down even three wekks after the fact , just like a pack of wolves ,just like Trayvon .
Was George hunting prey ?
Or , was Trayvon hunting prey ?
Who has bruises ? .. and who does not ?


15 posted on 07/03/2013 12:11:06 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Viking2002

Smiling here! Who knew we were neighbors? Sounds fabulous!


16 posted on 07/03/2013 12:11:10 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Vendome

Po gurel ...


LMAO!


17 posted on 07/03/2013 12:17:47 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

they need to discuss trayvon’s body. there are no bruises, justw a gunshot wound. zimmerman’s hands would have been messed up if he pounded on him. likewise trayvon’s hands should show signs of hitting someone and probably blood dna or skin dna of zimmerman on them or under nails.


18 posted on 07/03/2013 12:46:15 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: onyx

I laughed so hard my neighbor though2 I was crying. ..


19 posted on 07/03/2013 12:51:15 AM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author of this piece seems to ignore an important fact-the state’s star witness is a demonstrable liar.


20 posted on 07/03/2013 12:56:07 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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