Posted on 07/03/2013 6:13:11 PM PDT by lowbridge
The man arrested for kidnapping a 6-year-old girl in 2011 has been convicted on all counts by a jury.
The young girl was walking outside her Southwest Albuquerque home when Phillip Garcia pulled her into a van. Garcia held the girl’s head down and drove away from the neighborhood.
Police said a Good Samaritan heard the screaming and immediately pursued the van, until it eventually crashed. Garcia fled the scene, while the Samaritan pulled the young girl to safety. Garcia was then arrested and charged with the kidnapping.
(Excerpt) Read more at kob.com ...
Sentencing will take place on August 15.
Related threads from 2 years ago:
Kidnapping a six-year-old girl? When he gets to prison, his life is going to be worth about half as much as a cigarette butt.
I’m so glad this little girl got away and so pissed that ANOTHER illegal is in my country kidnapping little kids!
The rescuer can stay, the kidnapper can go to prison and then be deported.
The kidnapper can go to prison, be castrated and THEN be deported.
I don’t doubt that you think extrajudicial punishment is desirable.
I do doubt that you are a conservative.
Or even a person who is even vaguely interested in justice, our laws and the state of our justice system.
I don’t approve of any prison rapists or prisoner inflicted violence upon other incarcerated prisoners.
I read and hear illogical opinions of people just like you and shake my head, and cry out against you!
Do you really think just punishment is served if we as a society must depend on convicted and incarcerated criminals to meet it out?
Do you even know how to “think” it through, at all?
As a parent of a female child in the USA, I could pretty much turn to other threats against her after puberty, other than illegals of hispanic origins.
For some unknown reason, “we who are not Latino”, are not allowed to openly speak about the Latino cultural acceptence of the sexual perversions of Latino males for prepubescent females.
We are supposed to pretend that is normal!
We mustn't dare judge them to be sick sex perverts for openly lusting for and raping newborn babies and little girls under nine years old!
Because judging them evil would be...racist!
I don’t doubt that you think extrajudicial punishment is desirable.I do doubt that you are a conservative.
I'm actually not in favor of extra-legal, illegal, vigilante, mob "justice," or other non-judicial punishment, sarasmom.
I lasted five months as a prison guard quite a few years ago. It was far and away the worst, most depressing job of my life, though an eye-opener. One of the many things I hated about it was some of the guards' assumption of authority to do this, that, and much else on whim. If it need be said, part of what they had in mind was to goad inmates into attacking them, which afforded them the perfect excuse to beat the living [fill in the blank] out of them, consign them to isolation cells, et cetera. I expected the worst of the inmates; I didn't expect it of the guards, too.
That said™, the criminal who got his perverse pleasure out of kidnapping a little girl, doubless for horrible purposes, may well find himself helpless as a little girl begging for mercy from men who have children of their own and loathe men who prey on them. There's a weird irony in that: a rough, crude imitation or even parody of justice.
Do I advocate it? No. Do I think it's funny? Ironic, yes, in a grim way, but if funny, only in the same way an uncommonly witty dirty joke can be funny: briefly, with a wince. Do I mean it would serve the predator right to become prey? No, but I have a hunch the predator's best path through the horror he's inflicted upon children may be to experience it himself.
Is that true? I've read a hugely disproportionate number of child predators were themselves youthful victims of child predators, so perhaps there's no chance their being treated as they treated their victims will do them any good. Truth to tell, I don't have a definite answer. Most child predators and sex offenders in general never seem to comprehend their victims are people like themselves, so maybe there's not much hope they'll ever see daylight and move through and beyond their perverse compulsions.
I am sure if young criminals of every stripe and kind knew what jail and prison life is actually like, some would think twice, change their minds, and avoid the suffering. Strange to say, imprisonment is punishment in more ways than are apparent, though it all too often does a poor job of persuading criminals not to return to crime. I suspect what we regard as our "justice system" is less a system than an accumulation of largely failed practices, and the justice an accumulation of notions and traditions that ought to be discarded and reinvented: they don't get the job done, and dissatisfy all parties except lawyers who make their livings working the angles.
Since you wondered about my conservativism, let me confess I am and am not conservative, am and am not libertarian, and don't claim to be a paragon of logic. I'm more a creative type—novelist and painter—than a thinker, and a lifelong atheist rather than a Christian, so I fit the expected mold imperfectly.
Do you really think just punishment is served if we as a society must depend on convicted and incarcerated criminals to meet it out?
Letting criminals mete out "prison justice," perhaps I'll call it, isn't justice at all: it's what we actually have in place of genuine justice. Ironically—grimly ironically, even bitterly ironically—neither what we think of as our "justice system" nor what I've called "prison justice" does the victims half the bittiest part of a speck of good. I've wondered once or twice whether we've mistaken the word "justice" for "punishment."
“begging for mercy from men who have children of their own”
I always thought that one of the reasons prisoners hate child molestors is not just because they have children of their own, but because they also were abused and/or molested when they themselves were kids. Could that be true?
I always thought that one of the reasons prisoners hate child molestors is not just because they have children of their own, but because they also were abused and/or molested when they themselves were kids. Could that be true?
I'm sure it's true in many cases, lowbridge. I'd guess there are lots of reasons people hate child predators, all or nearly all of which, ultimately, are valid.
I'm not sure hating child predators actually does much to protect children from them. We seem to hate individual criminals after the fact; we haven't, however, taken action to force our "criminal justice" system to stop turning them loose again and again, nor does anything we do to or for the predators seem to have much bearing on the safety of children.
I'd like to see every criminal get a second chance—but one second chance rather than the usual umpty-twelvety-nineteen suspended sentences and probation and community service and parole, et cetera. I'd like to see second offense adult child predators hanged by the neck until dead: in the first place, most of them seem to be incurable recidivists, and in the second, capital punishment would—and should—be an expression of our shared moral values. We as a nation and people and culture ought to protect children most emphatically, since they're the least able to defend themselves.
You read an awful lot into that post, didn’t you? Self-righteous much?
As to you terming me self-righteous....
Am I supposed to be cowed into submission by that incredibly lame accusation? LOL
Admit it, you played Church Lady and presumed to lecture and categorize the poster based solely on what you inferred rather than what was posted. Your problem, not mine. I could care less if you are or are not cowed.
I suggest you go back to the original post, read it, and then read all the responces.
Or not.
I don't mind when stupid people specifically target me in openly venting their ignorance.
You are now on record for your support ...of what?
That you hate the truth?
Congrats!
Are you certain you are posting your thoughts on the correct website?
LOL!
“...read all the responces.”
Oh, perhaps I am stupid and/or ignorant. But a) I can spell and b) I am not hysterical.
Madam, you both bore and amuse me. Good evening.
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