Posted on 07/04/2013 7:13:13 AM PDT by marktwain
A decorated Air Force veteran pleaded not guilty this morning to a charge of “trespassing with a weapon capable of producing bodily harm,” after being arrested by police in Vancouver, Washington, for legally open carrying an AR-15 rifle.
Last Saturday, Mack Worley, eager to exercise his second amendment, open carried his rifle while grabbing a soda and viewing a fireworks stand before attempting to walk back to his car.
“No one had said anything negative to me. A few people came up to me and asked a few questions about what I was doing and I just explained that I was asserting my second amendment right. I was explaining to people that it’s not against the law or a crime to open carry a firearm,” said Worley.
While walking on a public sidewalk toward his vehicle, Worley noticed an officer waiting down the street in a police car. Worley, assuming the police wanted to speak with him, continued walking down the sidewalk.
“As I started walking to them, I hear on a loudspeaker to my left a police officer telling me to put my hands up,” said Worley.
Worley then noticed as many as seven police officers pointing their guns at him, demanding he remove his firearm. Police also ordered Worley to turn off his cell phone which was recording the incident which Worley refused.
Worley then asserted his fourth amendment right by informing the officers that he did not consent to any searches or seizures of his property.
As police moved in closer, Worley, now fearing for his safety, made the decision to remove his firearm despite the police having no legal justification to demand he do so.
“I asked the officer if was being detained, he said no.
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We went to Jerusalem in May 2010. On Sunday the streets and busses and tour sites were full of Israeli soldiers in full uniform with weapons. They seemed to be on a day leave.
Never felt so safe.
“we have hard heads trying to push the issue over the top with the “open carry” provocation.”
Remember when gays were spreading AIDS everywhere and millions of people were being killed by their perversion? They didnt apologize, act contrite and stay silent. They went on the offensive DEMANDING MORE RIGHTS and SPECIAL PRIVILEGES. They broke into churches during mass and disrupted events held by their opposition. They were/are obnoxious but it was very effective. Now we have gay marriage which was unthinkable even a few years ago. What can we learn from this? If you think you are right, go on the offensive, be obnoxious, make DEMANDS for more rights, dont be happy that only some of your rights are being lost. Be an ACTIVIST, MAKE TROUBLE.
>>Rifles slung across the back are not “brandished”, save in those states where the Law is an Ass.
Your subjective observations do not fit the objective world. 90% of the population who will witness this useless theater of the absurd will feel fear and dial 911 if you try this anywhere other than Bubba’s Crab Shack in Outback, Mississippi.
>>Rights not used are lost.
Falls trippingly off the tongue but is, in fact, a two bit sound bite meant to justify a provocative show of force in an extremely precarious battle that may determine whether or not we become governed by a dictatorship.
>>A major purpose of open carry is to make it commonplace.
Like you see in any banana republic airport or street corner? Nice. You get misread by a concealed carry bearer, a firefight ensues, that’s going to play real pretty on the 6:00 news. Try that in the ghetto. Get some freaking media savvy.
>>A good goal is to make future generations wonder why an individual is NOT carrying.
Concealed carry is good, no question. The perp not knowing where and when he’ll run into an armed citizen is good. But open carry is an invitation to disaster and illustrates why we are struggling for our lives against near liberal hegemony in all social institutions, we simply don’t know how to play the media game. And, make no mistake, media game it is. Did I mention the part about it being a media game?
This nation has been sensitized on the image of the “assault rifle”. The media circus has nearly successfully turned it into an icon for random death domestically, yet an instrument of liberation internationally. That’s the left’s blatant schizophrenia for you.
Regardless, 90% of your public is going to crap their pants when they see a non-uniformed civilian in a civilian setting (mall, cafe, supermarket, Summer street fair, etc.) with an icon of death they’ve seen a thousand times on the news in the hands of the Taliban, the Mexican mafia, the Moslem Brotherhood, the Syrian “freedom fighters”. This is such a no brainer.
You guys have your hearts in the right place, but you need to put in some thinking time on this one and put yourself in the shoes of your local (liberal) TV station’s News Editor. An incident over open carry is his propaganda wet dream.
Again, it’s a media war, a propaganda war, a war for the hearts and minds of John Q. Public, a public that has been jacked around for two generations by the Marxist Frankfort School/Gramsci intelligentsia. Feel free to Google those references.
Too vague. See "People" can't violate the First amendment. Only the Government can. So you need it reworded so it pertains to Government employees.
Didn’t want my post to be pulled. I figured the intent would be clear ;)
>“we have hard heads trying to push the issue over the top with the “open carry” provocation.”
>>Remember when gays were spreading AIDS everywhere and millions of people were being killed by their perversion? They didnt apologize, act contrite and stay silent. They went on the offensive DEMANDING MORE RIGHTS and SPECIAL PRIVILEGES. They broke into churches during mass and disrupted events held by their opposition. They were/are obnoxious but it was very effective. Now we have gay marriage which was unthinkable even a few years ago.
Yep, good, but there is a crucial flaw in your logic. The gays were perceived as victims, bravely fighting off the ravages of disease. Their game board ALLOWED this strategy to work. They played the empath card and it worked because most human beings with an ounce of compassion will wish that other humans don’t suffer. Basically the gays could do no wrong and the few “direct action” events, such as throwing contaminated blood on politicians, were seen as justifiable. This is where their media analysts kicked our media analysts (frankly, a non-existant if marginal entity in my opinion) into the next county.
>>What can we learn from this? If you think you are right, go on the offensive, be obnoxious, make DEMANDS for more rights, dont be happy that only some of your rights are being lost. Be an ACTIVIST, MAKE TROUBLE.
You have no idea how strongly I agree with you here. You’ll see that if you track my FR posts. But there are tactics and there is suicide. Two different animals in any rational human’s playbook. We need to get savvy on where the public’s mind is on this issue. The open carry strategy is being conducted with absolutely ZERO data collection on actual public response. The cognitive background residing withing the mind of the general public is being fatally estimated with the same hopefulness that we despise in leftist agenda making.
We really need to think this one through. The game is for all the marbles at this juncture in history. An error here could sink us. It won’t take much to justify a thousand Ruby Ridge or Waco raids, detention camps, martial law, etc. The only place I’d approve of open carry would be outside the Bilderberg or Club of Rome meeting. We either get smarter or we die.
Agreed. Let's win.
You don't do that by abandoning the battlefield.
>Again, it’s a media war, a propaganda war, a war for the hearts and minds of John Q. Public, a public that has been jacked around for two generations by the Marxist Frankfort School/Gramsci intelligentsia. Feel free to Google those references.
>>Agreed. Let’s win.
>>You don’t do that by abandoning the battlefield.
You don’t do that by misunderstanding the terrain maps, the G-2, the adversary’s strengths, and your own rationality for adopting a tactic that goes beyond crap shoot into the realm of self-extinction. This battlefield is the battlefield of perception.
Again, the battlefield is in the media, a battlefield we are not very good on judging by our loss of control of over 80% of it. Audacity has its place, Patton was brilliant, but a PR nightmare. This is not the way to win the public to our side. Get me drunk enough and I’ll call open carry out and out sabotage and send ferrets to find its true source.
If you must beg of your masters the permission to carry a weapon, are you not already governed by a dictatorship?
Like this? ;)
Open carry has won the day in several states, consider Michigan, Wisconsin, Virginia, and Arizona.
Washington is a current battleground. Some battles have been won, some have been a draw. This young veteran’s main mistake was not having backup to video the police so they could not destroy the evidence.
Just listen to him on the YouTube that is sourced in this thread.
I doubt if he was asked to leave and then refused. He was recording it all.
Israeli soldiers must carry their weapons with them all the time and that takes some getting used to for tourists who are not used to seeing such an open display of readiness and defense...
Yes, but unless he was recording to an online backup, he’s going to have a devil of a time proving it. Perhaps, he can get a good tech guy to recover the deleted video, but otherwise, it is the word of a citizen versus the word of the police. Usually, in court, that means the police go scot-free.
The unconstitutionality ends when we are fed up enough to stop it.
No problem for us. It was like a few hundred extra cops
Fornicate the media.
We are developing our own media, the new media. Cell phone pictures, YouTube, Freerepublic, and internet forums are all part of it.
I finally found the link for Mack Worley Defense Fund:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/on-the-move-with-mack-worley-defense-fund
This is for the Washington State open carry case that happened in Vancover.
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