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Parents Say Detroit Police Refuse To Charge Men Who Killed Their Son (Black on white hate crime)
http://detroit.cbslocal.com ^ | July 3, 2013 | marie osborne

Posted on 07/04/2013 6:22:53 PM PDT by lowbridge

Could Detroit’s money trouble be holding up justice in a high-profile double murder case?

It’s been nearly a year since 18-year-old Jacob Kudla and his 17-year-old friend Jourdan Bobbish left their Westland homes — never to be seen alive again. Their bodies were found five days later in an overgrown field near City Airport, along Lyford Street at French Road on Detroit’s east side. Both were found dressed only in undergarments, with a gunshot wound to the head.

“They beat the kids up, put them in the trunk of a car and took them to a field and shot them for the fun of it,” Bernie Kudla, Jacob’s dad, told WWJ’s Marie Osborne.

Bernie Kudla and his wife Vergie said they can’t believe their son’s case remains open and unsolved

“I wake up every morning sad with a broken heart, thinking I have to go through another day of this,” he said. “Jacob was the best thing ever and, you know, I was waiting for grandkids, and that will never happen.”

“The only thing that keeps me going today is trying to get justice for him. That’s the only reason I get up,” she said.

The parents said they are especially frustrated because police told them that the people responsible for her son’s death are already behind bars, awaiting trial on two other murders.

“We know how, we know where, we know who, the police department knows who, the prosecution knows who,” Vergie Kudla said.

Officials have told the family that there isn’t enough evidence to try the case, so they can’t sign an arrest warrant for the two alleged killers. The family, however, said there is plenty of evidence. The couple feels that the prosecution is just unwilling to go forward because they have the perpetrators on other cases.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
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1 posted on 07/04/2013 6:22:53 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Don’t they have any Angela Corey’s in Destroyit?


2 posted on 07/04/2013 6:25:25 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: lowbridge

The youngest son (of six) of a friend was killed like this. Sad.


3 posted on 07/04/2013 6:27:01 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
I don't know what to make of this case.

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4 posted on 07/04/2013 6:27:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: lowbridge

When are we going to sign up against violent black racism?


5 posted on 07/04/2013 6:30:32 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: lowbridge

Let’s get some T-Shirts going.


6 posted on 07/04/2013 6:31:33 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: lowbridge
Let me get this straight

White on Black murder is racist

Black on White murder, nothing to see here.

Now, who are these idiots again? I bet they are Democrats


7 posted on 07/04/2013 6:36:11 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: lowbridge

Detroit is far too unsafe for balcks, even worse for whites.


8 posted on 07/04/2013 6:36:40 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

“Let’s get some T-Shirts going.”

“Stop Black on White Violence”
on the front and bulls eye on the back?


9 posted on 07/04/2013 6:41:32 PM PDT by jessduntno ("If you give listeners a choice between NPR and NPR, they’ll pick NPR every time." - Howie Carr)
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To: lowbridge

There’s people still living in Detroit that are not Lo-Fos? Amazing.


10 posted on 07/04/2013 6:43:11 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Mamzelle

When are we going to sign up against violent black racism?
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You sign up by arming yourself, getting yourself well trained, and practice, practice, practice realistically. And, assuming you don’t live in a disgusting state such as Maryland or Illinois, get your concealed carry permit and then carry. Be prepared.

And I’m getting sick and tired of ALL kinds of black racism, violent or not. These are by far the most racist group of people in America.


11 posted on 07/04/2013 6:44:35 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: lowbridge
Here is where you anonymously inform the authorities that if they are not arrested and jailed in 24 hours they will be dead in front of your precinct
12 posted on 07/04/2013 6:49:24 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: House Atreides

I’m seeing a lot of screeching about racism here but I’m not seeing anything more than thugs targeting random victims who happened to be white.


13 posted on 07/04/2013 6:51:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: lowbridge

I can see the prosecutors point but just a tiny bit. If they are convicted and given life without parol then not much point in the other trials tho I think I would go ahead and try them anyway just in case.


14 posted on 07/04/2013 6:53:47 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m seeing a lot of screeching about racism here but I’m not seeing anything more than thugs targeting random victims who happened to be white.

Irony alert!

15 posted on 07/04/2013 6:58:56 PM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: Mercat

The smart strategy is not to go into cities like Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, etc.


16 posted on 07/04/2013 7:02:13 PM PDT by expat2
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To: ronnie raygun

“The parents said they are especially frustrated because police told them that the people responsible for her son’s death are already behind bars, awaiting trial on two other murders.” from the article

You go with the cases with the best evidence. Even if you know you have the right person if you put them on trial with out enough to convince the jury not just the parents, if they are acquitted you can’t put them on trial again.


17 posted on 07/04/2013 7:02:31 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ("We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give.")
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To: ronnie raygun

Read the article — the killers are already in jail.


18 posted on 07/04/2013 7:03:55 PM PDT by expat2
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To: House Atreides

You are 100% right. Blacks are the most racist people ion America. Their hatred taught to them from infancy.

Obama is only half black but still makes a good example.


19 posted on 07/04/2013 7:06:52 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: ThomasThomas

Good point. If they’re acquitted in the case they’re in jail for now, I think they can be tried on the other case.


20 posted on 07/04/2013 7:08:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: lowbridge

Best advice is to move out of Detroit, Chicago, LA, etc. before they kill you and yours. Probably better to start over than with nothing than end up in a ditch dead with nothing.

On a side note, the method used in stripping them and then beating them sounds like copycat of the NJ thugs that did on a street corner in Mayor Bookers town.


21 posted on 07/04/2013 7:09:29 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The short list would be the list of all administration officials that are NOT pathological liars!)
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To: lowbridge
can't believe the case is unsolved??? i'd be a MIRACLE if it WAS solved...
22 posted on 07/04/2013 7:16:14 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: lowbridge

Detroit riot 1967


23 posted on 07/04/2013 7:18:26 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: ronnie raygun

You don’t announce it, they might put them in protective custody. If one were going to do something like that - and I’m not advocating vigilantism - but if one were so inclined... Best just to do it, and keep your mouth shut about it before, during, and after.


24 posted on 07/04/2013 7:24:01 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

If you can provoke them into an attack you can legally kill them in Detroit.


25 posted on 07/04/2013 7:36:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: lowbridge
File a Pro Se federal lawsuit for civil rights violation for your son. $200? Filing fee and you could review other such cases from the 60-70’s. the murder of the freedom riders in Philadelphia, Mississippi comes to mind.
26 posted on 07/04/2013 7:56:08 PM PDT by keving (We get the government we vote for)
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To: House Atreides

Sound advice, but we shouldn’t have to rely on firepower to deal with what is essentially a social problem. Especially when you consider that many of the victims of black violence are children and teenagers in mixed schools, who would never have recourse to such means to defend themselves.


27 posted on 07/04/2013 7:59:00 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Most whites have already moved out of those places, long ago. It hasn’t solved the problem. Our government pays for the criminals to follow us wherever we go, and we can’t keep running from reality forever.


28 posted on 07/04/2013 8:01:00 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: expat2

This was in a suburb of Boston.


29 posted on 07/04/2013 8:11:21 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: expat2

This was in a suburb of Boston. Opps, I mean Denver.


30 posted on 07/04/2013 8:11:39 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: ThunderSleeps
It's called the SSS solution.( No relation to the SS )

Shoot, Shovel, and Shut-up.
Where is that missing Jimmy Hoffa guy people keep looking for?
It is what all people always eventually resort to, when they are forced to realize that their “local government” is entirely corrupt.

It's going to be a rough summer, everywhere in the USA.
Our government is now openly declaring that they no longer consider “Laws” to be law.

31 posted on 07/04/2013 8:11:57 PM PDT by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: cripplecreek

How do you know its random? I think there’s a decent chance this was a drug deal gone bad. Otherwise, what were these two guys doing driving around in downtown Detroit? And how would the cops already know who did it?


32 posted on 07/04/2013 8:30:17 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: lowbridge

Will white people ever march on anything, demand anything, or just sit back like a bunch of pussies?


33 posted on 07/04/2013 8:33:14 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: lowbridge

This can’t be true. Detroit is a Democratic [sic] party success story.


34 posted on 07/04/2013 8:33:17 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: JoeProBono
Detroit riot 1967

Q: How do you tell that it's 1967 and not 2013?

A: There are stores.

35 posted on 07/04/2013 8:55:03 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: ThomasThomas

True enough, that’s commonly the case with spree killers. The systematic disarmament of the honest part of America makes the situation worse than it needs to be; disarmament either by questionable law or by hysterical memes (it’s not for no end purpose that liberals have given us inflexible rules that pointing a finger and saying bang bang gets a toddler chucked out of school). Spree killers would be more likely to meet armed honest citizens, putting a damper on the desire of future would-be killers to go on sprees.


36 posted on 07/04/2013 9:10:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: All

Detroilet.


37 posted on 07/04/2013 9:35:56 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Weiner-Holder 2016!)
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To: JoeProBono

Look at those cops. They look like the cops I remember. No goons dressing up in military uniforms, no shaven-headed apes with nasty attitudes.


38 posted on 07/04/2013 10:14:55 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: ThunderSleeps

“Best just to do it, and keep your mouth shut about it before, during, and after.”

Your right. Rule #1 keep your mouth shut
#2 never admit to anything.


39 posted on 07/04/2013 10:34:06 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: bigdaddy45

Good point.


40 posted on 07/05/2013 2:28:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m not seeing anything more than thugs targeting random victims who happened to be white.

It wasn't quite random, the two had gone into Detroit to buy drugs.....and the murderers were the dealers.

41 posted on 07/05/2013 3:08:52 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I ain't no cracker, I'm a white a$$ soda biscuit...)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Exactly the sort of thing that put me in dangerous positions in my misspent youth.

Fortunately the guy I bought my pot from back then was a good man and made sure to take care of us dumb white kids wandering the hood like morons.


42 posted on 07/05/2013 3:14:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
A friend of mine owned a bar on Conant in Hamtramck and his brother was a crack head. The brother once took his mother's car, claiming it was stolen, and gave it to his dealer to pay off a drug debt.

The brother was eventually found murdered in a crack house on Detroit's east side, sitting on a sofa with a close range bullet hole in his forehead.......

43 posted on 07/05/2013 3:25:07 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I ain't no cracker, I'm a white a$$ soda biscuit...)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Yup. Some situations are never going to end well.


44 posted on 07/05/2013 3:29:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Boogieman

Sound advice, but we shouldn’t have to rely on firepower to deal with what is essentially a social problem. Especially when you consider that many of the victims of black violence are children and teenagers in mixed schools, who would never have recourse to such means to defend themselves.
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Yes, blacks are preyed on by other blacks also. I haven’t the foggiest clue how to change the black “street” culture that has taken hold in this country. More than anything else, it will be up to blacks to reform their own culture or live with their “internal” consequences.

Just as I don’t approve of the “Obamaphone” program, I would not approve of an “Obamapistol” program to arm the black population at public expense.


45 posted on 07/05/2013 4:17:58 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Slambat
“Best just to do it, and keep your mouth shut about it before, during, and after.”

Your right. Rule #1 keep your mouth shut
#2 never admit to anything.
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Rule #3 - Don't carry your cell phone on you to leave detailed electronic personally identifiable “bread crumbs” that will show your locations for any given times for years and years.

Believe you are engaged in gorilla warfare—because that gorilla war is being waged against you.

46 posted on 07/05/2013 4:24:19 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: expat2

If this was my child jail would be where they would want to be. If I got the we cannot prosecute I would handle it and let them prosecute me, if they could prove anything.


47 posted on 07/05/2013 6:00:04 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: jessduntno

Wouldn’t need the bulls eye. That’s a given.


48 posted on 07/05/2013 6:34:54 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: lowbridge
Here's Jacob Kudla's pic.

Find a Grave entry for Jacob Kudla

49 posted on 07/05/2013 10:43:28 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: lowbridge

Facebook page set up for the two boys:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Jourdan-Bobbish-Jake-Kudla/398360063545136


50 posted on 07/05/2013 10:45:53 AM PDT by beaversmom
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