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Tom Pauken — a Reagan Republican, not a Bush Republican — looks to replace Rick Perry
Houston Chronicle ^ | 07/08/2013 | Ross Ramsey

Posted on 07/08/2013 7:39:37 PM PDT by TexGrill

Now that Rick Perry has taken himself out of the 2014 gubernatorial race, Texas on the Potomac is looking at the two early contenders for the Republican nomination for governor, Attorney General Greg Abbott and former Texas GOP chairman Tom Pauken. This profile of Pauken was written by Ross Ramsey of the Texas Tribune

Tom Pauken has chosen a hard road.

He’s a Republican running for governor in a race that could feature either the longest-serving governor in state history, one of the best-financed potential replacements in history, or both.

He says that Gov. Rick Perry and Greg Abbott, the state’s attorney general, are exemplars of a leadership style that’s more about the politicians than the policies, and he wants to change all of that.

First, he will have to get people’s attention.

Pauken, who got his political start in the Reagan administration, is a former Army intelligence officer and Vietnam veteran, and a former chairman of the Republican Party of Texas. He ran for Congress and lost twice to Jim Mattox. Years later, he ran for attorney general and finished third in a race eventually won by John Cornyn, now a U.S. senator.

Perry appointed him to a spot on the Texas Workforce Commission, and Pauken used that, in part, as a forum for his argument that the state’s public schools aren’t getting youths ready for careers.

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Tom Pauken looks like another Ted Cruz.
1 posted on 07/08/2013 7:39:37 PM PDT by TexGrill
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To: TexGrill

His resume looks good but I don’t trust the Texas Tribune.


2 posted on 07/08/2013 7:53:15 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: TexGrill
He’s a self-described Reagan Republican — a label that invokes a conservative hero but that has lost some of its currency in a party swept by a wave of Tea Party fiscal conservatism and, in Texas, by a resurgent strain of social conservatism.

That sentence makes absolutely no sense.

3 posted on 07/08/2013 7:53:44 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

I didn’t write that sentence. Just copied-and-pasted it from the article.


4 posted on 07/08/2013 7:57:00 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Liberty Valance

Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t support him just because there’s an article in the Texas Tribune.


5 posted on 07/08/2013 7:58:34 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

I will vote for Abbott..Gotta love the guy’s tweets:

Full booth at gun show joining my fight to protect #gun rights. #txgop #nra #tcot http://t.co/PBW8jrzphb


6 posted on 07/08/2013 7:59:35 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: sockmonkey

Why should Texans vote for a conspiracy theorist as governor?


7 posted on 07/08/2013 8:03:16 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

I was initially skeptical about this statement:
as a forum for his argument that the state’s public schools aren’t getting youths ready for careers. (i don’t think public schools should be directing students. they should teach fundamentals RRR and these can be basically taught in several years.) Students should be allowed to exit the system(uugh) when they are prepared to divert their training to other areas. i hated school.
but after reading the article i was impressed by his policy on education. I.e.
He has been a loud critic of one-size-fits-all testing in public schools, arguing that the state shouldn’t try to send every high scholer to college, but instead should give some of them the technical or vocational training they need to go to work after high school. wish i lived in texas we should have these type of discussion here in bankrupt philly


8 posted on 07/08/2013 8:07:47 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: TexGrill

I’ll be voting for Abbott.


9 posted on 07/08/2013 8:10:29 PM PDT by Texas56
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To: TexGrill

Actually that is a pretty good description of him. His record as state GOP chairman was stellar. I think of him as the anti-Rove.


10 posted on 07/08/2013 8:10:31 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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To: TexGrill

Explain to us ignorants please.
What about conspiracy theorist and Abbott?


11 posted on 07/08/2013 8:10:31 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: kvanbrunt2

You could donate to his campaign. If he is elected governor and pushes his education reforms plan it could inspire other states to follow up on these measures.


12 posted on 07/08/2013 8:10:52 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill; All

A Major Watershed issue is the active deportation of the ‘Ted Kennedy Wetbacks,’ and other alien illegal invaders in TEXAS.

The Perry-Bush Amnesty Wing of the RINO Party had their chance, now let’s see what the new crop of politicians stand on punishment for illegal alien invaders.

BTW Tom Pauken, don’t fall for the sucker bait of illegal alien invaders will someday ever vote for you. They are from Socialist Countries, and will vote Socialist here.


13 posted on 07/08/2013 8:16:58 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

I did a Google Search. Didn’t see any mention of him supporting the Rubio/Graham Amnesty Bill.


14 posted on 07/08/2013 8:19:11 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

Thanks. We need to let the newbies know in TEXAS that the RINO Party is D-E-D: dead, everlastingly, dead.


15 posted on 07/08/2013 8:31:26 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: TexGrill
Tom Pauken looks like another Ted Cruz.

No he isn't. In my opinion of knowing about him for many years, he is a disaster and a destroyer - that is my opinion. Couldn't believe he's running for governor. I'll take Attorney General Greg Abbott in a wheelchair any day. It's Abbott who had Cruz working with him in his Attorney General’s office.

16 posted on 07/08/2013 8:39:19 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella

“he is a disaster and a destroyer.”

Didn’t Karl Rove say the same thing about Tom Pauken? However, should we say the same about Karl Rove and his GOP sabotage schemes? Is Karl Rove endorsing Abbott?


17 posted on 07/08/2013 8:44:00 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: RedWhiteBlue
His record as state GOP chairman was stellar. I think of him as the anti-Rove.

He nearly killed the party. We fought to get him out.

18 posted on 07/08/2013 8:44:14 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella

Could you elaborate a bit on why you believe Pauken is a disaster ? Just curious about your take.


19 posted on 07/08/2013 8:46:17 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: TexGrill; Marcella

My post may not be clear. It is Pauken who is the disaster.

Abbott and Cruz are superior. Cruz worked for Abbott.


20 posted on 07/08/2013 8:47:20 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella

Check this link and you will see lovely photos of Karl Rove and Greg Abbott together in a political partnership: http://www.calactx.com/events/552


21 posted on 07/08/2013 8:49:45 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill
Didn’t Karl Rove say the same thing about Tom Pauken?

I don't know or care what Rove said or says. My husband was the Republican County Chair and I was the secretary plus election law instructor at the time Pauken was State Chair. The party was shrinking due to him and we got him out and started growing again. When he starts “campaigning” then I'll write what he is really saying. It will be like “hope and change” - you don't know what that change is unless you figure it out.

He is the one saying he is a Reagan Republican and that is bovine scat but might get him some votes - say anything to get the votes.

22 posted on 07/08/2013 9:02:53 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: TexGrill

I see the Dem’s are already floating Annise Parker, Julian Castro, and Wendy Davis as possible Candidates against the Republicans.


23 posted on 07/08/2013 9:04:40 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: Marcella

Well if Rove is My. Saboteur of GOPers I would be very concerned about who he is endorsing. The Republican Party was shrinking when he was the state chairman. Can you post some figures on that one? If I’m not mistaken, you might be reading the Democrat Party numbers during his tenure.


24 posted on 07/08/2013 9:07:12 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill
Check this link and you will see lovely photos of Karl Rove and Greg Abbott together in a political partnership:

You should represent that gathering truthfully. It was a fund raiser for "Citizens Against Lawsuit Abuse of Central Texas". Naturally, Attorney General Abbott would be there and the group had Karl Rove for a speaker. They were at the same place but that doesn't mean they went home together. Your representation is wrong and misleading to the max.

25 posted on 07/08/2013 9:12:19 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella

You just said you don’t care what Karl Rove thinks. I wouldn’t call it misleading if I say they were lovely photos of Karl Rove and Greg Abbott together. When you think about it, they captured such wonderful smiles and they looked so friendly together. How can you not call them lovely?


26 posted on 07/08/2013 9:15:49 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Marcella

Marcella,
Thank you for sharing your opinions/insights about Pauken.
You’ve been around FR about as long as me, and I value your knowledge on this.


27 posted on 07/08/2013 9:21:34 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: TexGrill
Why should Texans vote for a conspiracy theorist as governor?

No offense to Mr Pauken, but I think he's kind of old to be Governor. So why should I vote for an old man as Governor? ?

28 posted on 07/08/2013 9:38:49 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: sockmonkey

With age comes wisdom


29 posted on 07/08/2013 9:40:01 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Liberty Valance

Pauken is a movement conservative. It is the reason he has not won high office, because in Texas those generally are given to men who are basically Tory Democrats. Cruz is the exception that proves the rule.


30 posted on 07/08/2013 9:42:26 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: sockmonkey
So he won’t still be governor 15 years from now? The office itself is weak, and Perry has achieved strength through longevity.
31 posted on 07/08/2013 9:45:51 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Graewoulf
The Perry-Bush Amnesty Wing of the RINO Party had their chance, now let’s see what the new crop of politicians stand on punishment for illegal alien invaders.

As a voting, conservative Texan, illegal immigration is perhaps the single most important state issue to me. My choice for Governor will be determined by the candidates' records and current stances on that subject.

32 posted on 07/08/2013 9:47:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Marcella
In my opinion of knowing about him for many years, he is a disaster and a destroyer - that is my opinion.

Thanks for that intel, Marcella. I don't know this guy, and will need to study up on who he really is.

33 posted on 07/08/2013 9:49:09 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RobbyS

Perhaps it’s time for Texans to make another exception to that rule.


34 posted on 07/08/2013 9:54:02 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: sockmonkey
You’ve been around FR about as long as me, and I value your knowledge on this.

I just noticed TexGrill, who posted this thread, just joined in May, 2013, and he had the pictures of Abbott and Rove at the same meeting right at his fingertips to post. That says to me he is likely a Pauken plant.

His gig seems to be to bring up the name of Rove and try to attach Rove to Abbott to hurt Abbott. Abbott is a bull dog for Texas and I don't care if Rove is for him or not. Abbott is his own man and has taken on AG Eric Holder every time he has tried to hurt Texas. If you remember, Abbott told Holder he would arrest any federal officer who crossed the Texas border to take guns from Texans.

Abbott is a giant in a wheelchair. In my opinion, Pauken is not worthy to push that wheelchair.

35 posted on 07/08/2013 9:56:11 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella
I just noticed TexGrill, who posted this thread, just joined in May, 2013, and he had the pictures of Abbott and Rove at the same meeting right at his fingertips to post.

Marcella, That's why I said to you, "you've been around about as long as me." I didn't want to say "noob".

That says to me he is likely a Pauken plant.

Lol, Oh, now, you're a conspiracy theorist just like that Gregg Abbott.

36 posted on 07/08/2013 10:13:32 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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Lol, Oh, now, you're a conspiracy theorist just like that Gregg Abbott.

No, I think the fact he had that link to those pictures at his fingertips, is evidence of his reason for being here to promote Pauken and evidence he will try to bomb Abbott by using super glue to stick Rove to him.

If I'm wrong, we'll know it (but I am seldom wrong about politics, especially Texas politics). :o)

37 posted on 07/08/2013 10:22:50 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella
he will try to bomb Abbott by using super glue to stick Rove to him.

Well, like you, I could care less about what Karl Rove thinks about a particular candidate. In fact, I value your opinion more than Karl's..

38 posted on 07/08/2013 10:35:08 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: Marcella

“(but I am seldom wrong about politics, especially Texas politics). :o) “

And if you have a ping list, please add me to it!

FRegards...


39 posted on 07/08/2013 11:03:44 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Marcella

Actually, it was a simple Google search to find the Rove and Abbott photo. I found the picture 3 minutes before posting a comment. In regards to registering in May 2013, I was just plain stupid. I had been reading Free Republic for over 3 years every day. It didn’t even dawn on me until May that I could register and make comments too. I found the site when a person in China wanted to know what’s the best conservative Website? I didn’t care much for the Alex Jones Website so we spent the entire day looking for a website that seemed to capture the conservative spirit.


40 posted on 07/08/2013 11:10:36 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

It was a funny story how I discovered Free Republic 3 years ago. I recently moved to Beijing and at the time working as a copy editor for China Radio International. A Chinese colleague would come up to me every day and ask me silly questions such as, “Does Obama really eat golden aborted fetuses every morning? Do all Americans store their food in nuke shelters? After a few weeks, I got fed up with him asking me these questions that are easy to debunk. He said he was assigned to read conservative Websites to know what Obama’s foes are thinking. He said he was reading Alex Jones as his source. I suggested we Google Search and find a better and more reliable conservative Website. We kept searching and searching until bam we found Free Republic. The Chinese official loved it so much a few weeks later he said that Free Republic converted him from a Leftist ideologue to wish he could move to America so he could vote against the Democrats.


41 posted on 07/08/2013 11:37:42 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Yehuda; sockmonkey
If one looks up the Texas Republican Party in the four years Pauken was Chairman, elected 1994 and reelected in 1996, the party was divided and it didn't come together effectively until another chairman was elected. That is my opinion of those years and we were working within the party during those years and a number of years after that.

I didn't follow Pauken after he was not Chairman. He has been the Chairman of the Texas Workforce Commission. I've just finished reading more about his candidacy for governor and we will see how the voters respond to his agenda.

There will be debates but those are usually on PBS and they go by with very few seeing them. Maybe it will be different this time. I'll stay on top of that and will know when these happen and will post the dates/times.

Yehuda, I don't have a formal list but I'll make sure I ping you if I post something political - or do you want notice of my prepper posts and/or gardening posts? Or do you want pinging to everything I write? There are a few I ping to most everything because they put up with me. Sockmonkey, do you want pinging and if so, to what? I should make a list or I'll forget someone.

42 posted on 07/08/2013 11:41:54 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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I was just plain stupid. I had been reading Free Republic for over 3 years every day. It didn’t even dawn on me until May that I could register and make comments too.

That statement does not sound true. If you have the smarts to post a thread and post pictures on that thread, it wouldn't take over 3 years for you to find out you could register and make comments.

43 posted on 07/08/2013 11:57:24 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella

It doesn’t sound believable, and I was the one to post comments about Barry asking, “would I lie to you?” Nonetheless, I have to say that’s what happened. I also posted a comment earlier about how I discovered Free Republic 3 years ago. But thanks for saying I’m “smart.” It’s nice to receive a compliment every once in a while. But something for you to consider, I lived in China for 3 years, and the Chinese are some of the most clever people you will ever meet. If you want to succeed in China you have to be clever too. My mind also works like a jigsaw puzzle. When I saw your post Mr. Pauken is a “disaster,” since I already took my stand on him, as a native Texan, I felt obligated to defend him. My initial rebuttal was to say this sounds like a Rove attack, but then I decided to do a Google Search just to verify before posting the Freeper “post” button. I apologize if you misunderstood my rebuttal and assumed I was calling you a Rove operative. However, I still stand behind my posting the photo of Abbot and Rove.


44 posted on 07/09/2013 12:09:11 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Marcella; TexGrill

Abbott is a giant in a wheelchair. In my opinion, Pauken is not worthy to push that wheelchair.
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Thanks for all of your postings on this thread, Marcella!

You have provided info on Pauken that I was not aware of previously. ....Abbott should easily win the Gov. slot.

The Castro twins from San Antonio should be run out of that town on a rail. Very far left liberal and La Raza types, based on what I’ve read and seen (the Dem convention comes to mind).

ps... I think TexGrill doesn’t even live here in Texas, since most of the original posts of his involve foreign items in Asia or the Pacific.


45 posted on 07/09/2013 1:37:27 AM PDT by octex
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To: TexGrill

It was a funny story how I discovered Free Republic 3 years ago. ...
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Thanks for that explanation. I’ll try to refrain from judging your comments on Texas politics until I read more.


46 posted on 07/09/2013 1:46:38 AM PDT by octex
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To: octex

I’m a native Texan but live in Beijing. I’ve mentioned it on numerous occassions as a Freeper. Never claimed, “I’m always right about Texas politics,” since I consider humility a virtue. I did meet Abbott once in Dallas and didn’t get good vibes from him. Perhaps, one should not act on one’s intuition but he appeared to be brilliant, but I kept feeling that he doesn’t trust anybody. Perhaps, he’s very emotional and at times he struggles to control it. Maybe I’m wrong, but remember he’s never faced a difficult election before, and we should see how he reacts when some negative attacks fly from the Republican side. I’m suspicious he might be overly sensitive. Mr. Pauken doesn’t have Abbott’s fundraising figures, name recognition and probably struggling with low popularity ratings. In politics, you don’t attack what you don’t fear, so when the Abbott attack machine call Pauken a “disaster” that means Abbott fears Pauken, not because he’s a real threat, but because he’s overly sensitive. That’s not a good trait to have when you’re in politics, especially in Texas.


47 posted on 07/09/2013 1:50:54 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

Paulkin ran for Congress and was wimpy. He worked for No Child Left Behind and we see how that worked out. More of a Bushite than a Reagan Republican. Far too “finger in the air” politician.


48 posted on 07/09/2013 5:25:50 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: TexGrill; Yehuda; sockmonkey
Never claimed, “I’m always right about Texas politics,” since I consider humility a virtue.

I said I was “seldom wrong” about politics. That is the truth, has nothing to do with humility. You do not represent the truth.

You say Abbott may be emotional and you are suspicious he might be over sensitive. I think you should quit describing him since you are totally wrong and uninformed.

You are redundant. I see no reason to converse with you further.

49 posted on 07/09/2013 6:21:07 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella

I know you won’t respond, but I’m still curious why Abbott’s attack machine would describe Pauken as a “disaster and destroyer” if supposedly he’s not overly-sensitive about being criticized from Pauken supporters? Don’t you think he’s over-reacting, considering the wealthy donors that support Abbot but not Pauken? Perhaps Pauken really is a threat, who might expose the hypocrisy of Abbott?


50 posted on 07/09/2013 7:21:33 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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