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Sigh: D.C. Council poised to chase off 900 jobs because they don’t like Wal-Mart, so there
Hotair ^ | 07/09/2013 | Mary Katherine Ham

Posted on 07/09/2013 7:15:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

A couple lessons, here. First, businesses are not obligated to open in your city or your neighborhood, particularly when you incentivize them to locate elsewhere. Washington, D.C. is particularly susceptible to losing potential jobs (particularly in entry-level and working class retail positions, as opposed to lobbyist slots) to nearby jurisdictions because it doesn’t take much to simply cross the bridge to friendlier climes in, say, Virginia.

Second, as Sonny Bunch reminds us of a lesson from Econ 101, hiking the minimum wage kills jobs.

Here’s the haps. In Washington, Wal-Mart, the city council, the grocery store unions, and a thousand Wal-Mart hating community groups have been engaged in a delicate, dumb dance for years over whether the giant retailer should be allowed within the hallowed precincts of the District of Columbia. Other big box stores are allowed— Best Buy, Target, and Home Depot for example—but the mother of all box stores has been picketed and pushed and generally trashed throughout its attempts to set down some retail roots in the District. The parties seemed to be coming to an agreement on three stores inside the District, predicted to bring 900 full and part-time jobs and some fresh grocery options to those so-called “food deserts” you hear about.

But the agreement might fall apart over a “living wage” bill, which requires a segment of retailers that sounds suspiciously like “retailers that are Wal-Mart” to pay far and above D.C.’s $8.25 minimum wage:

Representatives from Wal-Mart say the company will no longer build its planned stores at Skyland Town Center and Capitol Gateway, retail sites in Ward 7. “They’re not bluffing me,” Councilmember Yvette Alexander (D-Ward 7) says, having just left a meeting with the world’s largest retailer. “We worked for many years to get this commitment. I really didn’t think it would get to this point.”

The Large Retailer Accountability Act requires companies that take in at least $1 billion in revenue annually to pay their employees at least $12.50 an hour, well above the District’s minimum wage of $8.25. The bill also only applies to stores that are at least 75,000 square feet, thus exempting companies like Apple and Starbucks.

Isn’t the carve-out for liberal-approved billion-dollar retailers precious? Wal-Mart’s announcement is enough to make some reconsider and see the big picture:

In addition to the two Ward 7 stores, Alexander’s chief of staff, Ed Fisher, also says Wal-Mart’s move imperils a store planned for New York Avenue and Bladensburg Road NE. Councilmember Kenyan McDuffie (D-Ward 5), who represents that area, was one of eight “yes” votes on the bill’s first reading.

“That was without knowing Wal-Mart was going to pull out,” says Jeannette Mobley, McDuffie’s chief of staff. Mobley says her boss is “going to give this some thought” before tomorrow’s Council session.

Fisher says each planned Walmart was going to have at least 300 full- and part-time employees, as well as enhance food shopping options in Ward 7, where there are only four full-service supermarkets. “We’re going to have fewer options for groceries and commercial retail,” Fisher says. “At least 900 people won’t have an opportuntiy whether it’s full-time or part-time. Whether it’s a student in high school or a senior or a job someone can use as a stepping stone.”

As Bunch puts it: “So instead of decreasing the unemployment rate in blighted Washington, D.C., neighborhoods, there will be no jobs. Good job, guys! You really nailed this whole ‘governance’ thing.”

Social Justice! RT @OneFineJay: So, instead of 300 employees making minimum wage, you have 300 people without jobs. http://t.co/xIgk5aIhZ6

— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) July 9, 2013

The argument from the left is a petulant cry of, “Hey, the Waltons are real rich and they can’t afford to pay $12.50 an hour?!” Again, they’re not obligated to bring their stores to your city when you’re actively trying to make it harder for them to do business there, especially when they have other options nearby. In the same way, gun accessory manufacturers are not obligated to stay in your state when you’re banning their products. In the same way, smart, talented people are not obligated to be doctors when the cost of becoming a doctor and maintaining malpractice insurance isn’t worth the financial rewards of being a doctor. Incentives matter, and free people respond to them.

Oh, and if the D.C. Council does end up blocking Wal-Mart in the city, it’ll be great fun to watch them all later endorse former Wal-Mart board of directors member Hillary Clinton.

(For the record, though I’m defending Wal-Mart here, I’m not always down with the ways the company colludes with government to get into certain communities, via eminent domain, for instance.)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bluezones; dc; dopeydems; jobs; keepowt; retail; walmart; welfarestate
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To: Sherman Logan

people won’t have to drive to Alexandria, Arlington and montgomery/PG counties to get the same products at the same price, so maybe a pack of TP sold in DC isn’t sold in VA or in the Safeway on the other side of town but the fact still remains that the company is willing to hire people, stock the stores, sell the stuff with almost 100% helping people in Dc through salary and taxes. The thought that people in Alexandria might be canned because they move less paper goods is theoretical. When they start getting fired because DC residents (most of whom don’t have cars) aren’t buying their paper towels and the locals aren’t making up the difference and the store’s profitability slips just enough to fire that person, I’m sure we’ll find out.

The pie in DC is based on government employment and spending and it has been going up on all levels. The people at Walmart spent many years working on the numbers and didn’t come to the decision to open six stores lightly.

The overall economy might only be “growing” at a glacial pace but around here, it’s moving along at a pretty good clip.


21 posted on 07/09/2013 8:16:51 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Sherman Logan

What you say is not true when the economic pie is expanding and through most of American history it has been and from genuine economic activity and useful production. What we have now is a Federal Reserve Bank propping up a hollowed out economy via QE to infinity. Walmart is a great symptom of this with all its Chinese/Asian imports


22 posted on 07/09/2013 8:18:22 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

You know why. gubmint spending. If the growth in the DC area isn’t sustainable, the stores will close. I’m guessing that Newark and Newark are both cesspools that can no longer be supported by their states and the tax payers have left for greener pastures

DC is growing because of gentrification too. People moving in to once considered bad areas and investing and building. There is a lot of it going on here. You need to get out of the Newarks and check it out.


23 posted on 07/09/2013 8:21:58 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: dennisw

There is some truth to what you say.

But not a whole lot.

A super-center averages something like $75M per year in sales. When one opens in a given market, even one with a rapidly-growing economy, that market area doesn’t spend an additional $75M that first year on the type of stuff sold at WM.

Instead, most of those sales, probably 90% or more, are diverted from other retailers in the area, or possibly from retailers in adjacent market areas.

But an additional $75M just is not spent.

Don’t get me wrong. WM and the efficiency it brought to retailing and forced other retailers to emulate, has been an enormous financial boon to America, and most especially to poor Americans.

But it has probably led to a drop in total jobs in retailing, and also probably to a drop in wages over what they would otherwise have been.


24 posted on 07/09/2013 8:27:38 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind
The DC Council has also been taking a lot of sh*t lately over an inane driver licence proposal. Even Wa Po has been critical. From Wa Po:

D.C.’s muddled thinking on licensing immigrants

By Editorial Board, Published: July 7

TWO MONTHS ago, Mayor Vincent Gray proposed common-sense legislation that would allow an estimated 15,000 illegal immigrants living in the District to obtain D.C. driver’s licenses. Now a committee of the City Council, employing supremely muddled thinking, has modified the mayor’s proposal in a way that would blatantly violate federal law, cast a pall on the validity of all D.C. licenses and do no favors for undocumented immigrants.

How does the council’s move make sense?

The mayor’s proposal would grant licenses to immigrants living in the District if they showed proof of identity and residence. In that way the city could ensure that whatever their immigration status, drivers are competent, safe and insured. Mr. Gray’s bill made clear that the licenses for undocumented immigrants would be distinct from other city-issued licenses, so they could not be used for boarding flights or accessing federal programs.

The latter provision, also found in similar legislation enacted in seven states and pending in others, complies with federal law. The law, known as REAL ID, requires states and localities to verify the lawful status of applicants for driver’s licenses and identification cards.

However, the council’s Transportation and Environment Committee, in a unanimous vote, decided that federal law shouldn’t apply to the District — even though it acknowledged in a report that “factually” it does, indeed, apply.

For the committee and its chairman, Council member Mary M. Cheh (D-Ward 3), these facts are inconvenient. They say that the federal law can be safely ignored because they dislike it.

Their arguments rest on the flimsy foundation that REAL ID is unpopular and controversial, that the feds haven’t fully enforced it and that it would be expensive to implement. More to the point, they believe that requiring markers on licenses for illegal immigrants would stigmatize them and discourage their widespread use.

That’s possible. In most of the states that have decided to provide such licenses, marked to make clear they are invalid as federal IDs, no data on demand are available yet.

But as the committee report acknowledges, undocumented immigrants could use such licenses without worries in the District, where law enforcement does not target illegal immigrants. While drivers bearing such licenses might be at risk elsewhere, specifically Virginia, the risk would surely be no greater than from driving without a license, which is their only option now.

Some council members believe a distinctly marked license of the sort Mr. Gray proposed would confer second-class status. In fact, undocumented immigrants already are fully aware of the limitations imposed by their status. A driver’s license, whatever its design, does not change that; it simply ensures that those who possess it have met minimum qualifications to drive safely.

Two states, New Mexico and Washington, have gone the route Ms. Cheh’s committee recommends and now issue illegal immigrants licenses identical to those given to legal residents. The risk for those states, as for the District if it follows suit, is that the federal government would refuse to accept any driver’s licenses from those states as valid ID, including to board airplanes.

Ms. Cheh says glibly that if the Department of Homeland Security starts enforcing the law, “we can worry about that when the time comes.” That’s a shaky basis for legislation. Better to do the obvious thing and obey federal law.

25 posted on 07/09/2013 8:33:05 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: newnhdad
The overall economy might only be “growing” at a glacial pace but around here, it’s moving along at a pretty good clip.

Duh! We know the DC region is a black hole sucking fake Federal Reserve money (such as it is) out of the rest of America. That this accounts for your bizarre prosperity there. The DC motto is "make them fake money, then take it from those outlying idiots"
We know that within the DC region the rest of America are considered idiots to be lied to get re-elected and to pay for affirmative action Federal jobs

26 posted on 07/09/2013 8:37:12 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

” Walmart is a great symptom of this with all its Chinese/Asian imports”

When I go to Kmart or Target it looks like they import a lot from those same countries.


27 posted on 07/09/2013 8:37:33 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberals never had a problem with WalMart until back in the ‘90’s when Her Thighness started her crusade against them. Ever since then, WalMart has been like steak to a vegan worshiper.

Hitlery did an Alinsky on WalMart - pick an opponent and demonize it. The idiots will follow.


28 posted on 07/09/2013 8:39:35 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; BillyBoy

Ten years ago I used to rally behind Walmarts but since they support Obama-care and the Senate internet tax bill my romantic feelings for them have ended.

We got a Walmarts not far from here and it draws in the riffraff from the Baltimore City direction (and section 8 apartments here) and the employees are lazy and clueless.
They got cameras every 10 square feet on ceiling due to riff raff including their employees and they took out the automated checkers due to theft and employee apathy.

A few more miles away from here would suit me fine.


29 posted on 07/09/2013 8:40:11 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: newnhdad

Why should I go to Newark or DC? I know the situation right from here a few thousand miles away. A relative had to go to DC recently to see an elite MD. She got there at 3PM and needed to get some quick food. The eating places were full at this hour


30 posted on 07/09/2013 8:41:47 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

How come you left off Home Depot?


31 posted on 07/09/2013 8:42:39 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

Yep. And that will be 900 workers who also get food stamps thanks to Walmart socializing the cost of the minimum wages of their workers. Corporate America will always support a big government welfare state. Always.


32 posted on 07/09/2013 8:46:33 PM PDT by EthnicAmerican
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To: Sherman Logan
Don’t get me wrong. WM and the efficiency it brought to retailing and forced other retailers to emulate, has been an enormous financial boon to America, and most especially to poor Americans.

America is like a snake eating its tail. Due to our deportation and destruction of serious industries many people can only afford to shop at WalMart. 
Stupid free trade doctrine plus WalMart's Asian imports destroy decent jobs, so much so that those dispossessed (and their families) can only afford to shop there

33 posted on 07/09/2013 8:48:49 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
It wasn't intentional. My point was it isn't just Walmart . When I was still working we ordered some new slack adjusters at our truck shop. We got Bendix not the cheap Chinese knockoffs. I had to chuckle when I saw the sticker on the Bendix adjusters that said “made in China “.
34 posted on 07/09/2013 8:52:14 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: EthnicAmerican

thanks! And this is why economics is called the dismal science. Rush Limbaugh used to talk about capitalism’s creativity in our free markets here and our expanding economic pie. And rightly so. But for the past 4 years or so I have not heard this kind of free market happy talk from him. I like this kind of talk but it only justified in the “Good times”


35 posted on 07/09/2013 8:53:34 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; ...
You mean it would draw big spenders like Rachel Jeantel away from the city? That could collapse their economy.


36 posted on 07/09/2013 9:04:52 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I got news for you, they don’t classify as jobs. Jobs drive the American economic engine, or at least what used to be an economic engine. These so called jobs only provide subsistence and nothing above that. They do no good for the economy in any real sense. No conservative could support this nonsense.


37 posted on 07/09/2013 9:10:48 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

True! I know an honest young guy who is a policeman which is a good gov’t job these days. A great job these days given our awful economy. His girlfriend works at Home Depot and been there 10 years so has climbed up the ladder a bit. But all in all is treated like a disposable replaceable wage slave. She knows it and he knows it. They know the difference between a decent gov’t job and the crap jobs that are more and more of what makes up our private sector.


38 posted on 07/09/2013 9:55:56 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

decent?

They should be paid the same as the taxpayers


39 posted on 07/09/2013 10:01:15 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

I much prefer the private sector. I’m just commenting on the reality these days of very nice gov’t jobs while private sector jobs are less desirable


40 posted on 07/09/2013 10:18:15 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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