Posted on 07/11/2013 7:12:21 AM PDT by Perdogg
DRUDGE Headline: BREAKING: JUDGE ALLOWS LESSER CHARGE OF MANSLAUGHTER...
Prosecutors said they would ask that the lesser charges be included as they hammer out of jury instructions on Thursday. Prosecutors are also seeking a child abuse charge against Zimmerman since Martin was 17 at the time of his death.
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Oh my God. Just when I thought this case couldnt get any more bizarre, West said.
“Looks like Zimmerman is going to prison where hell be forced into general population. Hell last all of 30 minutes. Any juror who votes to convict, after knowing all the facts laid out, should have a special place in hell awaiting them.”
I totally agree!
I think I read 5 years, but I’m no lawyer, so someone please correct me if I’m way off.
These prosecutors are a joke. But they are scary, too, because these guys are conducting themselves in a way that the left sees “justice”: As a political tool.
Unfortunately, this gives the state an incentive to overcharge initially, knowing that it can always fall back on the lesser included charge if the trial evidence doesn’t go its way.
Not good; you want all or nothing on this one. Don’t give a jury of women the opportunity to come up with a compromise verdict.
From this source:
http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/involuntary-manslaughter-penalties-and-sentencing.html
EXCERPT:
The base sentence for involuntary manslaughter under federal sentencing guidelines is a 10 to 16 month prison sentence, which increases if it was committed through an act of reckless conduct. The minimum sentence for involuntary manslaughter committed with an automobile is higher still, although judges may use a certain amount discretion.
There is plenty of room in hell for anyone involved in persecuting Mr. Zimmerman. Eternity is a LONG time...you've earned your place.
What is it with the FL judicial system? Are all the judges a bunch of raging leftist buffoons (ala 2000 FL Supremes)?
Manslaughter charge in Florida carries 25 year sentence...with more added due to a minor being involved...AND the judge ruled that the jury will NOT be told that the manslaughter charge virtually carries the same sentence as murder 2...
“But they are scary, too, because these guys are conducting themselves in a way that the left sees justice: As a political tool.”
Yep. The law is just a means to an end or an impediment, depending.
I don’t think they have anything but some kind of “he was following” even though he should have been a trained “neighborhood watcher”. They think that might get them negligent manslaughter.
I think not. He didn’t come close to any kind of illegal following, which would be a kind of harassment that’s repeated, threatening, etc.
None of that, however, robs him of his right to defend himself from someone beating him in such a manner that he could die from it.
Self-defense applies to manslaughter as well.
If one listens to the recording of the dispatcher call, the alleged “criminal” following didn’t last but a minute. That hardly justifies someone deciding to beat your brains in.
Whites must learn that one does not defend oneself against a black assault.
No, the jury will NOT learn the possible sentences. Their job is to determine on the facts whether or not the charge is supported - guilty or not guilty. That is their job and I agree with the premise. Otherwise the jury will be more likely to reach a compromise verdict.
The judge has already give plenty of reason for a mistrial as she is patently in the prosecution’s camp.
Post of the day.
If Zimmerman is convicted of something (I don't think he will be, but you never know), there are plenty of grounds for appeal, but this is not one of them. Under Florida law, Manslaughter is a "Category 1" lesser included offense under second-degree Murder. As a couple of Florida lawyers have explained to me, that means that if either party requests that the judge instruct the jury on a lesser-included Manslaughter charge, the judge MUST do so - it's not discretionary.
DOJ has become a lynch mob. the Truth and rule of law are no longer in effect
I’m fine with that. See post #90 below. It is voluntary manslaughter, I’m guessing, and yours states that it is involuntary manslaughter. Voluntary requires malice aforethought, and that simply isn’t in play here and certainly hasn’t been proved.
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