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Former Electric-car Engineer: Electric Cars Pollute More Than Gas
The New American ^ | 12 July 2013 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 07/12/2013 6:23:08 PM PDT by VitacoreVision



Former Electric-car Engineer: Electric Cars Pollute More Than Gas

The New American
12 July 2013


Is the only "green" aspect of electric cars the money some companies make off them? If former plug-in advocate and General Motors engineer Ozzie Zehner (shown) is correct, this is exactly the case.

Author of the book Green Illusions, Zehner once built his own hybrid car that could run on electricity or natural gas. And, he writes in a recent article entitled "Unclean at Any Speed," he was convinced cars such as his "would help reduce both pollution and fossil-fuel dependence."

But he now says, "I was wrong."
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Full Story:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/15971-former-electric-car-engineer-electric-cars-pollute-more-than-gas




Green Illusions: The Dirty Secrets of Clean Energy and the Future of Environmentalism
Ozzie Zehner, 2012

(Excerpt) Read more at thenewamerican.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: efv; electriccars; energy; greenagenda; greenenergy; greenillusions; ozziezehner; pages; pollution
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1 posted on 07/12/2013 6:23:08 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

You will never EVER run a Locomotive off a windmill......


2 posted on 07/12/2013 6:32:32 PM PDT by Shady (Creed of the PC Police: You're guilty when we say you are...)
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To: VitacoreVision

Indeed.

Welcome to the world of real math, a world which is dreamed of, but never reached - by members of the MSM and our congresscritters.


3 posted on 07/12/2013 6:34:08 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Shady
You will never EVER run a Locomotive off a windmill......

How about if they added 2 D cell batteries? :-)

4 posted on 07/12/2013 6:35:46 PM PDT by Mark17 (My body is in California, but my heart is in the Philippines.)
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To: VitacoreVision
Is the only "green" aspect of electric cars the money some companies make off them?

Are any car companies actually making money off them?

5 posted on 07/12/2013 6:37:16 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp
Making money from the cars? No

Making money from a piece of each of our paychecks. Ab$olutely

6 posted on 07/12/2013 6:43:25 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: VitacoreVision

Yeah but it makes the liberals FEEEELLLL good!


7 posted on 07/12/2013 6:44:04 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Mark17

Fill it with batteries and place charging stations every X miles. When they run out, simply stop for a day and recharge them. /s


8 posted on 07/12/2013 6:45:31 PM PDT by matt04
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To: VitacoreVision
A more responsible electric-car analysis would consider not just charging the vehicle, but also “the environmental impacts over the vehicle’s entire life cycle, from its construction through its operation and on to its eventual retirement at the junkyard.”

It's NOT just what comes out of the tailpipe... it's smokestacks in industries all over the world... Everything has energy signature - every component - every person paid - every transport along the way - even when we can't see 'em...

9 posted on 07/12/2013 6:46:51 PM PDT by GOPJ (Department of Justice organized rallies against George Zimmerman.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Anyone on FR read “Green Illusions?”


10 posted on 07/12/2013 6:48:30 PM PDT by matt04
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To: SeeSharp

Tesla. Will be the most profitable auto company in the near future.


11 posted on 07/12/2013 6:51:07 PM PDT by Cool Guy
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To: Shady

Or a steel mill.


12 posted on 07/12/2013 6:52:21 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: VitacoreVision

A useless battle. Facts simply don’t matter to Green idealists who live in Never-Never Land. To them nothing is impossible if only enough “other people’s money” is spent on it.


13 posted on 07/12/2013 6:58:42 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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LOL, hey, we could go into business, by having bed and breakfast motels right next to the charging stations. We could secretly arrange for the charging stations to take 3 days to charge the batteries, thereby making more money. What do you think of that? -:)


14 posted on 07/12/2013 7:09:43 PM PDT by Mark17 (My body is in California, but my heart is in the Philippines.)
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To: VitacoreVision

I have never met anyone who owns an electric car that doesn’t love it. My Leaf is fun to drive. It is the most comfortable riding and quiet small car ever. I hope this is the future in automobiles. I also have a 2013 Ford Escape. It is also a nice vehicle. I just wish it was electric powered (with at least a 300 mile range). I don’t care how green or red the vehicle is. The technology has a future. The ICE has evolved all it is going to.


15 posted on 07/12/2013 7:10:56 PM PDT by willk
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To: VitacoreVision

“Green” is mostly worse for the environment.

But globalism says that’s the way to go, so the socialist and activist thought leaders (in the pay of globalism) gin up the “herd” of socialists and activists to support “green”.


16 posted on 07/12/2013 7:28:59 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Mark17

Easy. Simply only use solar or wind power generated at the station. None of that BS “solar credit” scam where nuclear, coal, etc. send the actual power to the grid, but you pay for some turbine to eventually catch up.


17 posted on 07/12/2013 7:31:36 PM PDT by matt04
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To: VitacoreVision

Suspicions CONFIRMED!

I am not an engineer, HST, I have long believed that the life-cycle cost to the environment of electric cars is far understated.

The ICE has a long life ahead of it!


18 posted on 07/12/2013 7:33:30 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: VitacoreVision

bfl


19 posted on 07/12/2013 7:46:15 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Bernard Marx
"Facts simply don't matter"

The fact is that this is a year old story and there is a reason that the New American has re-birthed the story.

The story quickly faded last year when it came out because it was not accurate.

The author of the book clarified himself to say the issue was not whether or not the electric car was as green as some say, but that it is an error to think that electric cars are a solution to the environmental problems with cars.

Considering the number of cars in use plus the additional cars that will be put in use as more Chinese, Indians, Mexicans, Africans, etc drive cars, only a fool would think that electric cars are a solution to the problem.

But anyway, here it a year later and everyone has forgotten what author of the book was really saying so the New American has re-birthed the story.

20 posted on 07/12/2013 8:12:08 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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