Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Marking 150 Years Since the New York City Draft Riots
Parade ^ | July 11, 2013 | ERIN HOLLAWAY PALMER

Posted on 07/13/2013 5:43:00 AM PDT by Sherman Logan

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-33 next last
The Draft Riots started 150 years ago today!

Unfortunately, the author being interviewed for this piece, going along with modern obsessions, has to turn the riot into a race riot, with evil whites attacking innocent blacks as the main event.

Which did indeed happen. But the riots did not start over race, and most of those killed were not black.

Also, the notion that "black troops won the war" is pretty stupid.

1 posted on 07/13/2013 5:43:00 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

Just a byproduct from an earlier post of an infantile liberal trying, desperately trying to find some example of white-rioting to counter the very, very real threat of black rioting, over virtually anything, today.

It is rather pathetic if you ask me. Liberals just don’t have the artillery to do battle on a logical and reasonable level.


2 posted on 07/13/2013 5:47:04 AM PDT by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan
This really saves the Union.

That's a questionable claim.

3 posted on 07/13/2013 5:48:56 AM PDT by 0.E.O
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer

“It is rather pathetic if you ask me. Liberals just don’t have the artillery to do battle on a logical and reasonable level.”

They get activist judges to impose their will on the rest of us so they don’t have to.


4 posted on 07/13/2013 5:49:41 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: headstamp 2

A little more devious than that. They proactively, proactively FOMENTED and INCITED discord far in advance of any judicial action.

Witness - employees of the CRS unit of the DOJ actively incite and foment black protests to get the Florida authorities to charge Zimmerman. Failing that, the limp-peckered Florida Governor was pressured to appoint a special prosecutor who did.


5 posted on 07/13/2013 5:54:08 AM PDT by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

The author also doesn’t seem to understand that even 150 years ago, New York - despite pockets are poverty - was still fairly rural. Most of NYC was concentrated in what is now Lower Manhattan.

I believe it was mostly Irish immigrants who rioted and looted and lynched. They held it against black folks that they were being conscripted to fight a war they didn’t understand. Of course, NYC was the hotbed of Copperhead activity.


6 posted on 07/13/2013 6:03:27 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer
"To this day the riots of July 1863 remain the bloodiest civil disturbance in American history..."

But, if as we are being told, the Zimmermann trial ends in some other fashion than The Racist-in-Chief and his gang of traitors desire, your point:

"...the very, very real threat of black rioting, over virtually anything, today...",

may be realized.

7 posted on 07/13/2013 6:07:06 AM PDT by skimbell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 0.E.O

No, its not a questionable claim, its a nutty claim. The war was won ten days earlier at Gettysburg and Vicksburg; although it would drag on for twenty months, Lee had lost the ability to maneuver and the South had lost Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas with the fall of Vicksburg and the capture of the Miss. River. Once they arrived in Manhattan, it took the Union Army, including many disabled soldiers (the Invalided ones) about 15 minutes to take on and clear out the mob of rioters in New York, “tough guys” in a mob (some of whom had burned down a black orphanage with the kids in it) but who went running, terrified, for shelter at the first sign of the Army.


8 posted on 07/13/2013 6:14:19 AM PDT by laconic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: skimbell

My point has already been realized - daily almost.

Black women jumping up on the counter at Burger king , anywhere public, freaking out because they did/didn’t get ketchup or the server ‘dissed’ them; hundreds of blacks storming stores to destroy and loot; blacks EVERYWHERE playing “knock out on some whitey because it’s ‘fun’; playing “white girl bleed a lot” when it’s more than ‘fun’; 4 Trayvons beating pushing a white man into traffic that killed him; and on and on and on and on.


9 posted on 07/13/2013 6:15:27 AM PDT by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

Watch Gangs of New York for a version of these events.


10 posted on 07/13/2013 6:23:22 AM PDT by AndrewB (FUBO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

It is also very important to note that some of the major New York newspapers had been purchased by rabid “Copperheads”, northern Democrats bitterly opposed to the war, who used those papers to stimulate rioters as much as possible.

Copperheads damaged the Union war effort by fighting the draft, encouraging desertion, and forming conspiracies to undermine the war effort. They talked of helping Confederate prisoners of war seize their camps and escape. They sometimes met with Confederate agents and took money. The Confederacy encouraged their activities whenever possible.

Importantly, the Copperheads were radicals, mostly pro-slavery, and distinguishable from the “Butternuts”, who were more pacifistic.


11 posted on 07/13/2013 6:29:07 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AndrewB

Unfortunately, that version bears essentially no relationship to reality.


12 posted on 07/13/2013 6:31:45 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

Agreed. Scorsese’s version of events was melodramatic and bogus.


13 posted on 07/13/2013 7:05:24 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan
"[T]be rioters themselves were not, in general, persons liable to be drafted. A great proportion of them were persons under twenty years of age, and many were convicts, thieves, and abandoned characters—the scum of this great city and the hasty Importations from other cities . . . . It is impossible to believe that the riot was anything else than the outbreak ot traitors who made the draft a pretext for their own crimes, and an occasion for inciting others to become criminals with them . . . . A riot is never to be propitiated, but a riot begun under such circumstances is to be met with nothing but defiance. Any concession to it, real or seeming, is full of danger. For my own part I will have nothing to do with it but to employ whatever power I posess to aid in crushing it at all hazards."

Mayor Opdyke to the Common Council July 27, 1863

14 posted on 07/13/2013 7:22:20 AM PDT by Oratam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

Just Democrats acting as they always do. KKK, Jim Crow laws, anti-civil rights, etc.

And to the NSA trolls, FU.


15 posted on 07/13/2013 8:25:04 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

Also pretty silly is mentioning all the battles/revolts in NYC without mentioning any of the Revolutionary War battle.


16 posted on 07/13/2013 8:36:58 AM PDT by JLS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

He equates it with Stonewall as well. Sick.


17 posted on 07/13/2013 8:56:38 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

Strangely there seems to be no mention of Tammany Hall of the of the Democrat party and its’ roll in the riots.


18 posted on 07/13/2013 9:15:25 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

Nobody wanted to fight for the old Whig Lincoln, the Africans or his Yankee Banditos. Should have been forced from office before he attacked SC!


19 posted on 07/13/2013 10:08:12 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: iopscusa

More like the democrat New Yorkers didn’t want to fight the democrat southron insurrectionists.


20 posted on 07/13/2013 10:29:43 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-33 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson