Posted on 07/17/2013 6:36:11 PM PDT by SJackson
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Perhaps a little off topic. Thanks to Gumdrop for bringing it to my attention
Interesting viewpoint; although crazy accusations about misdeeds of Jews apparently did not carry most of the public uproar over George Zimmerman, it looks like one managed to get the uproar off the ground at the start.
But to “dispensational” Christians like me, this is a familiar story. The Jews are a covenant people and the covenant was not discarded with Jesus Christ. The worst devil in the creation, i.e. Satan, will focus his hatred upon anyone in the Jewish line, whatever religion that person may actually happen to practice. And he sweeps whoever he can up in his hatred.
Well said!
It’s interesting how the media made George white and Hispanic, but never really made him Jewish. I’m sure it has nothing to do with who sits at the top levels of many media outlets.
Amen!
Many years from now, perhaps, many people will look back on the GZ furor and realize “We were had.”
We dispies get a lot of flak from spiritualizing Christians... which is not a point of their personal salvation but is a definite theological disagreement between us.
Anyhow... newness or not of the theology, and it does jibe rather well with the Bible, I have never seen a better explanation in a Christian context for why such evil falls upon Jews while at the same time they produce so much goodness. Clearly the black hate mongers who first screamed about George Zimmerman were not protesting the participation of Jewish people at the crucifixion scene! (For which Jesus Christ very notably begged their forgiveness, not so incidentally.)
Great article...!
Pollard? I hope he freaking ROTS.
I hope he really, really suffers —forever.
SPIED FOR PAKISTAN (too).
I have my issue with the nature of his plea bargain and sentencing which history can deal with, but I don’t much care if he rots.
From what I have read his family is Catholic.
I rather wish him repentance than rotting. He pretty clearly wasn’t thinking about God, Israel, the Jews, or America. Nor did he seem to have much of a reason to be fond of the USSR, to whom he leaked the secrets. He was pretty clearly thinking about himself.
One doesn’t have to be a dispensationalist to accept the biblical teaching of the Jews as God’s convenant people generally, and that they should be protected and helped in the face of injustice.
However, the New Testament clearly teaches only those who trust in the Jewish Messiah, Jesus, will be saved.
Therefore there is one covenant people ultimately, and gentile followers of Christ are grafted into that covenant people—the Jews—who go all the way back to Abraham.
According to all forms of orthodox Christianity though, Jewish people, just like gentiles, are only saved by faith in Jesus...so there is one covenant that saves, that sealed in Christ’ blood, and finally one covenant people.
“There is neither Jew nor Gentile...for you are all one in Christ Jesus. “ (Gal. 3:28)
A covenant is like an offer with a promise: “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved”(Acts 16:7), and that offer with a promise, that covenant, was made (and still is made) to the Jews—and since Jesus came—has been extended to the Gentiles. Hence are Jews the covenant people? Yes...and so is anyone who hears that offer—including gentiles.
However, covenants, in the ancient near east form, ALWAYS have not just blessings—if you accept and follow the terms—but CURSES, if you refuse. Hence being “God’s covenant people” doesn’t save an individual—rather it makes him in a position to accept or reject God’s terms...and those terms for 2000 years...are faith in Jesus Christ.
This is why non-dispensational types like I am, get nervous when dispensationalists push the Jews—most of whom now reject Jesus—as God’s special covenant people, because, so what? If they don’t turn to Jesus, that special status just makes things worse for them at judgement day.
Radical dispensationalists like Rev. Haggee even go so far as to say non-believing (in Jesus) Jews are somehow saved by their covenant status...something Peter would be very surprised to hear—given his preaching in Acts 2 and forward.
Should Christians especially respect the Jews and help Israel...praying for the peace of Jerusalem? Of course! They really are special to God—none the less, so are followers of Jesus, Christians, as God has extended His covenant in Christ to gentiles as well....and is creating one people to follow Jesus, not two....
“Zimmerman’s record is not perfect; he had a few minor scrapes with the law along the way. But he is not a racist.”
Racist, defending a racist./s
” The family used to take care of two African-American girls his age when he was younger and they were like sisters to him.”
Ahaa! So they wouldn’t put out and now he’s taking it out on all blacks. Typical Jooo!/s
“His partner in a failed business enterprise was an African American.”
He blames blacks for his father’s business failings. That proves he’s a Jooo!/s
” The neighborhood he was watching was 60 percent white, 20 percent Hispanic, and 20 percent black. Several of the African-American residents there spoke nothing but praise for him. “
He has them cowed./s
Well when they believed directly on Jehovah for personal salvation they believed in the Son too, before the Son was revealed as Jesus. They won’t be saved by law keeping, something that the Jewish people were already warned that they couldn’t do... at the time the law was given! The covenant pertains to earthly existence as a race not to eternal salvation, to which some will fail to attain because they won’t believe directly on Jehovah (revealed as Jesus or otherwise) for personal salvation. Also the biblical pattern strongly suggests, and I believe it is a truth, that Jews who believe on Jehovah for salvation will — not might, will — recognize who Jesus is at some point, which solves the conundrum of supposed Jesus-less salvation.
Also... I’ve noted from a spiritual point of view that a lot of Jews never see the need for accepting a salvation offer directly from Jehovah. Some Jews did. David was clearly one of those that did, as he wrote inspired psalms about it. But that requires getting past the idea that one can be saved by keeping the law, or even that the law itself is somehow charmed to be self keeping if a Jew tries hard enough. That glorifies man and does not glorify God (who gave fair warning that the law was unkeepable). You will even find a lot of Jews today that take a kind of pride in saying their faith does not depend on a heaven unlike Christians who always are hoping to get there. Well, heaven really begins to move in right on earth, and some of the more spiritual parables of Judaism do confess that truth.
interesting. Z has been called white, white latino and now Jewish... No one ever mentions that he was (maybe still is) a Democrat....
It seems like the Jews, like the Hispanics (both major Leftist voting blocs) are both saying the same thing:
“We ain’t got no dog in this hunt!”
Since GZ is a “white Hispanic”, the Latinos are absolved from black rage. The Jews are simply denying the black slurs.
The drumbeat of “We Must Overturn Stand Your Ground For Trayvon©” is getting louder with each passing day. There are a few on FR who have stated it wouldn’t happen; they have been proven wrong. This trial was all about Back-door Gun Control, legislated from the bench, and that’s all there ever is or was to this case.
Indeed.
Look at Hosea 5:15. It states:
I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.
First, this is in the Old Testament. Second, just who is this person who says he will return to his place? It's Christ Himself! Third, you can't return to a place that you hadn't left. Fourth, what offence is acknowledged and who's acknowleging? Christ's crucifixion, and a remnant of the children of Israel is who.
Yes, the time is soon coming where they will seek His face in dire affliction. When they do this, He will return.
Now, this is truly why Satan has it out for the Jewish people and the nation of Israel. Satan does NOT want their petition to be raised.
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