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Detroit emergency manager files bankruptcy (AP Breaking)
AP ^ | 7-18-13 | AP

Posted on 07/18/2013 1:27:38 PM PDT by tcrlaf

DETROIT (AP) -- Detroit has become the largest city in U.S. history to file for bankruptcy.

State-appointed emergency manager Kevyn Orr on Thursday asked a federal judge permission to place the city into Chapter 9 bankruptcy protection.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; deserved; detroit; michigan
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To: staytrue

Do the math.
Yes they have income.
But.
Calculate the sum total of retired government workers and workers who will be retiring in the next decade, and extend that out through these people’s expected lifespan. Throw in Federal, State, County, and city. All of them. Everyone drawing a government retirement.

Compare the two.

This is why government was projected (from a 1970s vantage point) to collapse down the road. Well, now we are pretty much there and natural lifespans are longer than at the time this was calculated.

There is no simple solution. We have more employees than we can afford. A lot of jobs that used to be staffed for a few years with people who felt they were doing a service have become lifelong careers. The cost for the change wasn’t paid up front. We now have byzantine regulatory agencies that employ an army of paper shufflers..

You look at how many people work for the government per producing taxpayer now, and compare that to forty years ago.

Pollyanna denial isn’t going to make this go away.

Just as the same sort of Pollyanna denial didn’t stop the entirely predictable real estate bubble burst.


121 posted on 07/18/2013 5:37:08 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: staytrue

Wanna bet?


122 posted on 07/18/2013 5:38:22 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Just saw an article that NJ is sitting on millions....and the EUA recently donated millions to Sandy.....so there’s no reason for them not to clean things up...except they have no desire or they’re using it otherwise...or both.

Christy said some of it is going to the schools to upgrade their technology.


123 posted on 07/18/2013 5:38:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf

That’s 1 for Meredith Whitney. Her mistake was in not understanding that trillions of Bernanke bucks would be splashed into the big city slush funds. Many more to come. Welcome to Ar-hen-ti-na.


124 posted on 07/18/2013 5:40:14 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Osage Orange

companies and productive people are pouring out of CA - public pension obligations and public spending is bankrupting cities counties and the state. Pretending everything is fine because one industry is still there - for now - is a banana republic delusion. Just trying taxing those companies enough to cover that hole and see what happens. Remember what Amazon did?


125 posted on 07/18/2013 5:43:54 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: staytrue
Just wait until the rest of Silicon Valley companies exit.

And the Shale oil will NOT be explored. Are you kidding me...Not going to happen.

I lived in SoCal....born and raised there.

The state is doomed....and the next "immigration bill" will finish the state.

Enjoy it while you can...........

Detroit is CA future....because it's run by Democrat Socialist Marxist's...........They ruin everything they touch!

126 posted on 07/18/2013 5:47:11 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: cripplecreek
Live for today and the magical unicorn will poop gold coins in your lap tomorrow.

There's always the The Trillion Dollar Coin.

You can almost hear how breathlessly excited this d-bag Weisenthal was.

127 posted on 07/18/2013 5:47:55 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: staytrue

“....My money would be on Baltimore, but it is close enough to DC to be able to have a life line from there....”
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Baltimore itself probably won’t go bankrupt for a very long time. The radical progressive wing of the Democrat party is firmly entrenched in power at the state level (and increasing its hold on power as time goes on) and will use the financial resources of the entire state to keep the Democrat areas afloat despite their massive spending problems.

I guess its possible that the entire state will go bankrupt at some point. Much of its “wealth” comes from feeding from the federal public trough (both federal employees & contractors). The best things that other states can do is keep the lid on federal paychecks (keep the freeze going indefinitely on this overpaid crowd) and try to gradually reduce staffing levels. Believe me, there is a great deal of pure fat in the federal bureaucracies.


128 posted on 07/18/2013 5:48:05 PM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: Osage Orange

129 posted on 07/18/2013 5:48:31 PM PDT by caww
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To: RginTN
Heard on Fox news radio, no mention of Democrat but they mention corruption.

A Democrat-created disaster, 60 years in the making, and nothing will be learned.

Thank you LSM!™

130 posted on 07/18/2013 5:49:42 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: kearnyirish2
My children commented on how much damage still exists along the Jersey shore from Sandy; I told them there weren’t enough people with reasons to fix it. Who wants to invest in parks/beaches just to show up and be the only taxpayer there?

The key is to get out before the tipping point.

High tech keeps Massachusetts alive. Once the tech sector goes, we'll be gone.

131 posted on 07/18/2013 6:03:11 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: 4yearlurker
I think “Les Gold” is the sleaziest of them all

I dunno. To deal with that freakshow, he has to have the patience of a saint.

132 posted on 07/18/2013 6:06:16 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: staytrue
CA will not go BK. See post 116 for why. The net worth of Silicon valley companies alone is probably over 1 trillion dollars. The farming is valuable, and the shale oil is very valuable.

But deep down, you know the Democrats can do it.

133 posted on 07/18/2013 6:12:02 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Stentor
There's always the The Trillion Dollar Coin. You can almost hear how breathlessly excited this d-bag Weisenthal was.

You have to admit that the coin part was a stroke of genius.

We all know that paper money can be worthless, but a coin? Maybe, just maybe, if we all hope really hard...

134 posted on 07/18/2013 6:15:08 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
You have to admit that the coin part was a stroke of genius.

And you studied Aristotle. Tsk-tsk.

135 posted on 07/18/2013 6:21:58 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: tcrlaf

Detroit gonna be ruled by a caliph.


136 posted on 07/18/2013 6:24:15 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Publius

I would have to agree 100%. Keep the areas with Ford Field, Comerica Park and Joe Louis Arena as Detriot and all the surrounding suburban residential areas become their own towns/cities.


137 posted on 07/18/2013 6:27:43 PM PDT by matt04
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To: tcrlaf
I am a regular on all the financial threads, so let me add my $.02. It may not be PC, but I will tell everyone now.

Do Not Invest in Muni-Bonds of any city, county, or any other geographical entity with a >40% minority population.

I will just leave it at that.

138 posted on 07/18/2013 6:30:10 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: staytrue
lots of vegetable farming in the central valley, and aerospace manufacturing.

With the sequester effecting FY funding, the aerospace manufacturing sector is in a severe downturn. Contracts are not being awarded readily. With the EPA withholding irrigation waters...the CA central farming sector has been in a severe recession for 2.5 years. Unemployment and welfare recipients are UP in the central valley.

139 posted on 07/18/2013 6:31:32 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: catfish1957

“Municipal bonds Ted, I’m talking double A rating. . . the best investment in America.”


140 posted on 07/18/2013 6:33:16 PM PDT by dfwgator
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