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1 posted on 07/19/2013 11:10:19 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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>> What Dick Cheney said:

"Rand Paul is wrong on government surveillance."

>> What Dick Cheney actually meant:

Rand, leave my daughter alone! She's entitled by birthright to be the next senator from Wyoming!
133 posted on 07/20/2013 5:48:50 PM PDT by indthkr
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He’s stuck in 2002.


135 posted on 07/20/2013 6:16:00 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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Start profiling and take out the muslim islam filth and stop manufacturing McVeigh types and we’ll talk...until then STFU.


140 posted on 07/20/2013 7:23:43 PM PDT by soycd
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 “When you consider the possibility of somebody smuggling something like a nuclear device into the United Statees, teenage male prostitutes into the White House, it becomes very, very important to gather intelligence on your enemies and stop that attack before it ever gets launched.”

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145 posted on 07/20/2013 10:40:17 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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These laws that threaten our Constitutional rights; that are based upon 9-11 and terrorism and the need for the forever war on terror and citizen surveillance; such as the Patriot Act and all of its subsequent amendments; should automatically sunset/expire and become null and void within 2 years, unless they are re-upped for 2 more years by 60% of Congress.

They need to die unless overwhelmingly approved politically be a Congress that needs to face reelection.


157 posted on 07/21/2013 4:55:29 PM PDT by apoliticalone
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As much as I like "Darth Vader", he's completely wrong here. Obama's massive spying program isn't about stopping the next 9/11. Were that the case, the NSA would be spying on communications with some FOREIGN nexus. My daughter's text messages to her friends do not have such a foreign connection. Nor do my wife's web searches. So why is Obama watching them?

There are 7,000,000,000 people on this planet and our government has reason to spy on 6,700,000,000 of them. Why then is Obama spying on the 300,000,000 of us and not them?

159 posted on 07/21/2013 5:12:51 PM PDT by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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.......love Cheney generally speaking but, NO, Dick you are wrong! Give me a choice of running the risk of getting nuked or “the government” having all this information about 300 million Americans I think I would prefer risking becoming charcoal instantaneously. I don’t think “a nuke” is the issue either. I think the issue is people like Jarrett, Axelrod, Pelosi, Obama, Reid and Biden using NSA data to BLACKMAIL a supreme court member (like Roberts) or key congressmen/women. That’s the issue, to me.

I’m to the point given recent history, added to long term history, where I don’t believe ANYTHING the government says about ANYTHING EVER! About the only person I believe in the U.S. Government is Ted Cruz and I worry about him gradually being bought off.


162 posted on 07/21/2013 8:24:23 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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Last year if you said Cheney was a jerk because of the Patriot Act you would of been called a troll, a DUmmy, or whatever else.

Now if you call Cheney a jerk because of the Patriot Act your a patriot.

LOL


163 posted on 07/21/2013 8:33:28 PM PDT by frickin_frackin
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Like many Freepers I liked Cheney’s unapologetic style, and Rumsfeld’s and Bush’s. Let’s be clear here though. Bad-ass in-your-face attitude when everyone else is turning tail and running is refreshing, but it is NOT CONSERVATISM. Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld and the rest of them are somewhere between Moderate Republicans and neocons. I can tolerate them for a time especially when they are playing a useful role in the midst of international conflict, but let’s cut the hero worship crap. Now that the discussion is about an out-of-control Marxist attempting to create an all-powerful, all-knowing State versus privacy and civil liberties, it’s time for those guys to shut up. Until this country is back to normal and the derailed Bill of Rights is put back on its tracks, I want to hear from Rand Paul and others like him.


176 posted on 07/22/2013 7:38:47 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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If Dick Cheney were right more resources would have been dedicated to the Boston Bombers... and the FBI wouldn’t have had to release pictures of two men that were easy to find and already on their radar.


177 posted on 07/22/2013 7:44:03 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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The surveillance is fine so long as overseen by people of honor. Problem is we have ZERO trust for our current “leaders”.


212 posted on 07/23/2013 8:04:00 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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"When you consider the possibility of somebody smuggling something like a nuclear device into the United States, it becomes very, very important to gather intelligence on your enemies and stop that attack before it ever gets launched.”"

Uh...Dick....I love ya, BUT....if you were so concerned about somebody smuggling a nookleer device into the USA, how come you and George didn't bother to secure our borders to prevent such a possibility. Hmmm?

223 posted on 07/23/2013 10:48:46 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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232 posted on 07/23/2013 6:03:17 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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He later added: “When you consider the possibility of somebody smuggling something like a nuclear device into the United States, it becomes very, very important to gather intelligence on your enemies

Bull cheet... no one buys this crap Mr. Cheney...

Your administration stood by and even aided and abetted the illegal invasion of tens of millions of illegals...During war time yet!

If they can bring in truck loads of illegal alien cargo on a routine basis, from corrupt countries like Mexico, how hard would it be to smuggle in weapons of mass destruction?

233 posted on 07/23/2013 10:02:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Bush and Cheney imported MORE Muslims into the U.S. AFTER 911 than the previous two decades...

Cheney, Bush, Obama are all riding in the same limo... Now he’s telling us they have to spy on and monitor law abiding citizens to fight terrorist?

What utter bull sheeet.


234 posted on 07/23/2013 10:06:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Can’t forgive Dick Cheney for 2 reasons:

1. He encouraged the invasion of Iraq. Now we have a satellite state of Iran (and thousands of wounded warriors). Great move, Dick.

2. He believed that the power of the presidency was undercut by the Watergate scandal (when in fact it had grown far more powerful than the Framers wanted it to be) and dedicated himself to restoring the bloated caesarism that is now the presidency. Having a Congress that winks at undeclared (and thus illegal wars) doesn’t help much.


235 posted on 07/24/2013 8:31:28 AM PDT by steelhead_trout
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I doubt Cheney has a clue...or cares... what Obama has done to government surveillance of conservatives.


240 posted on 07/30/2013 3:09:00 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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