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Onondaga County spent federal stimulus on two $4,000 trash cans, wants 300 more
2013 Syracuse Media Group All rights reserved ^ | 07/21/13 | Michelle Breidenbach

Posted on 07/21/2013 8:59:34 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

Syracuse, NY - There is a $4,000 trash can at the zoo in Syracuse.

There's another one near a downtown parking lot outside the OnCenter.

Taxpayers bought them with federal stimulus money.

Onondaga County's Deputy County Executive Matt Millea would like to use state money to buy as many as 300 more and put them all over Syracuse. That could cost more than $1 million.

Millea is proud of the "Big Belly" solar trash cans - even though each one costs about 21 times more than a traditional municipal can.

Each Big Belly is powered by solar panels that operate a compactor that can crush 150 gallons of trash so it fits in one can. That's five times more than a typical trash can holds, according to the manufacturer.

That's not all. It also has a wireless connection that beams an alert to staff in the mothership office when the trash can is full and ready to be emptied....

Stimulus funding, more formally known as the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, was intended to make jobs.

The whole idea of installing Big Bellies is to reduce the workload for municipalities.

(Excerpt) Read more at syracuse.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: New York
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1 posted on 07/21/2013 8:59:34 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Talk about wasteful (pun intended)...


2 posted on 07/21/2013 9:03:58 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I’ve seen those same solar-powered compactors along the sidewalk in Tarpon Springs, FL!


3 posted on 07/21/2013 9:05:25 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Wouldn’t it be a hoot if somebody stole them and sold them to a recycling place for about 80.00 in scrap metal?


4 posted on 07/21/2013 9:08:20 AM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: jespasinthru
Wouldn’t it be a hoot if somebody stole them and sold them to a recycling place for about 80.00 in scrap metal?

The solar panels are worth more than that.

5 posted on 07/21/2013 9:21:28 AM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

At about 1000 these puppies start to make sense. Not 4000

They actually save a good deal on garbage collection. Mafia will not be pleased...


6 posted on 07/21/2013 9:23:00 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

And that is a Republican run county..........in New York of course.


7 posted on 07/21/2013 9:25:18 AM PDT by BilLies (The Progressive Liberal American Press will be the death of freedom in this country.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Spoiled children never learn the difference between want and need.


8 posted on 07/21/2013 9:27:16 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The whole idea of installing Big Bellies is to reduce the workload for municipalities.

So the federales borrow from the Chinese to give money to the city to buy an expensive trash can to reduce the number of city employees and thus the amount of payroll spent locally. Doesn't sound so stimulative for the city. Or maybe the are just reducing the workload so the city employees have more time to play grab ass with each other on the taxpayers' dime.

9 posted on 07/21/2013 9:27:28 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Appears labor savings could justify the cost.


10 posted on 07/21/2013 9:31:59 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: varyouga
At about 1000 these puppies start to make sense. Not 4000

They are 1000. Installation and set up is $3000.

11 posted on 07/21/2013 9:34:34 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Retired Chemist

Yes, but the stimulus was supposed to create, not eliminate, jobs. Personally, I have no problem with the county laying off a few union trash haulers. I just find the irony here to be yet another example of government (in this case the feds) creating unintended consequences.


12 posted on 07/21/2013 9:55:01 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Jobs were created making the barrels.


13 posted on 07/21/2013 10:21:03 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I’m going to design a solar toilet with LED’s. It will flush automatically while providing light to places where the sun don’t shine. Anybody want in on this?


14 posted on 07/21/2013 10:35:50 AM PDT by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: Retired Chemist
Jobs were created making the barrels.

Jobs that vaporized the instant the grant money ran out.

15 posted on 07/21/2013 10:48:56 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Justice for Trayvon: Dig up his body and shoot him again.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Biography of Columbia U educated Matt Millea, who is “proud” of these trash cans.

http://docs.house.gov/meetings/AP/AP06/20130416/100518/HHRG-113-AP06-Bio-MilleaM-20130416.pdf

“launched New York State’s Green Innovation Grant Program, which is now in its fourth round of funding”


16 posted on 07/21/2013 11:17:09 AM PDT by syriacus (By inviting millions of undocumented immigrants to stay here, Obama's enlarging our carbon footprint)
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To: syriacus

Party affiliation in 2009 in Onondaga County

Dem 37% GOP 32%

http://cnyvitals.org/onondaga/civic-engagement/voter-registration


17 posted on 07/21/2013 11:22:52 AM PDT by syriacus (By inviting millions of undocumented immigrants to stay here, Obama's enlarging our carbon footprint)
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To: syriacus

In 2012 Onondaga County

Obama won

61% (112,664 votes)

to Romney’s

39% (72,807 votes)


18 posted on 07/21/2013 11:27:36 AM PDT by syriacus (By inviting millions of undocumented immigrants to stay here, Obama's enlarging our carbon footprint)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
$4,000 trash can at the zoo in Syracuse

More info on Onondaga County's Deputy County Executive Matt Millea, who loves the trash cans

Mr. Millea serves on the Board of Directors of the Rosamond Gifford Zoo in Syracuse, and the Onondaga County Resource Recovery Agency

19 posted on 07/21/2013 11:34:49 AM PDT by syriacus (By inviting millions of undocumented immigrants to stay here, Obama's enlarging our carbon footprint)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

It’s the scanners, transmitters, cameras and bomb-sniffers that are embedded in them that run up the costs.

Everyone that walks by is scanned...cell phone, credit card info, pacemaker (if pertinent). Practically any electronic device a passerby has on them is accessed, downloaded, decrypted, and subsequently uploaded to the NSA via satellite connection.

Then, there are the facial recognition cameras that kick in...

Yes, I’m being sarcastic...but, not by much.


20 posted on 07/21/2013 11:35:35 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

They have these solar-powered trash cans all over the Virginia Commonwealth University campus.

They are a huge one-time cost, plus I assume there is some small cost for maintenance, and for maintaining wireless links.

On the other hand, if they save time in trash collection, they might well pay for themselves over time. Not only do you have to empty them only 1/5th of the time of a regular can, but you don’t have to go to pick them up until they tell you they are full, whereas traditional trash collection sends people to every can regularly, even if the can has almost nothing in it.

They also save some amount of money on the bags that you put in a traditional can — at least you would use 1/5th as many.

I have no idea if the trade-off is worth it. I’d love to see that someone actually did that before purchasing them.


21 posted on 07/21/2013 12:20:32 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: moovova

You forgot about the scan that inventories what you discarded and deposits it in your NSA file. Your insurance company will be able to determine if you really quit using tobacco. You may get a note telling you to cut back on the twinkies or lose your healthcare.


22 posted on 07/21/2013 1:48:14 PM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: American in Israel

[Spoiled children never learn the difference between want and need.]

Ain’t that the truth. And don’t even think about asking them how they plan on paying for what they WANT.

They love to worship anything shiny — especially when it’s shiny government infrastructure that lines their pockets and that everybody ELSE has to pay for.


23 posted on 07/21/2013 2:32:20 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Onondaga County hopes to pay for more solar-powered trash cans with some of the $100 million Gov. Andrew Cuomo is giving away in competitive Cleaner, Greener Communities grants. The state money comes from the sale of extra greenhouse gas emission allowances to power generators. It does not come from tax revenue.

Oh joy!

24 posted on 07/22/2013 10:02:39 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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