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To: kimtom

I always wondered what idiot decided to send 30+ Special Opns. warriors into a hot LZ on a slow moving target like a Chinook. I told my son who is an SF Major that the Commander who made that decision should be relieved. Even in Vietnam, we learned that when you go into a hot LZ you use multiple fast moving aircraft (In that case UH-1’s). I am glad to see that someone is investigating this and I can’t understand why the services didn’t dig into it deeper at the time.


12 posted on 07/24/2013 6:04:51 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I have also wondered not using multiple insertion aircraft?


14 posted on 07/24/2013 6:17:02 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

The military has been covering for Obama all along. If he doesn’t want something investigated it won’t be investigated. Lt Col Terry Lakin found that out the hard way. The doctrine of “do whatever you’re told unless it’s to directly murder” has been promulgated all over the place, and it shouldn’t surprise anybody if we get a military that serves as the hit squad at the bidding of a foreign enemy combatant CINC. That’s what we’ve told the military is their JOB, and they will be court-martialed if they keep their oaths to protect and defend the US Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic.

Obama doesn’t want this investigated because this planned attack on SEAL Team 6 was his way to appease his Islamofasict overlords, after he had to announce that Bin Laden had been killed, as a distraction from the now-certified birth certificate forgery that people were beginning to document at the time of the Bin Laden raid.

And Obama has personally gone even farther than that, in allowing the terrorists to avenge Bin Laden’s death. Michelle Obama personally visited Bin Laden’s son in the hospital after he was caught at the finish line acting suspiciously at the Boston marathon bombing. AND they allowed Bin Laden’s son to attend a 4th of July celebration for military personnel at the White House.

The media knows this darn good and well, because intel sources provided documentation to Glenn Beck as well as to 10 Congress members, and Beck forwarded that information to the major media sources. Reporters wrote stories about it but editors would not allow the stories to be published. The incestuous relationship between the Obama regime and the media heads has been noted elsewhere.

Those media folks who aren’t already in bed with the regime were originally threatened in October of 2008 over the eligibility issue (as documented in a signed statement to Doug Hagmann) and have since been spied on (the Fox reporter), had their computer hacked (Attkisson), or been killed (Breitbart, Hastings) under suspicious circumstances in LA which were then covered up by the coroner’s office in which a tech was poisoned by arsenic in a case which the LAPD willfully lied to cover up and refused to investigate in spite of the perp being easily trackable.

All this stuff needs to be investigated by Congress. Every stinkin’ dot in its own right needs to be investigated, and when you put all those dots side by side a clear image emerges - the murder of this nation while the entire system looked on and ignored the screams of those who saw it happening before their very eyes.


18 posted on 07/24/2013 6:41:53 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
"..The fault lies with the Counter-Insurgency (COIN) doctrine, which both Bush and Obama have clung to despite massive evidence of its failure. The U.S. government is more concerned with appeasing Muslims both in America and in Muslim countries than in defending Americans against the global jihad. Obama even refuses to name the enemy. Meanwhile, his disastrous Rules of Engagement place our troops -- like Aaron Vaughn -- in unnecessary danger, and have cost countless American lives. When Extortion 17 was fired on, it wasn't allowed to fire back -- because of the Rules of Engagement. Our troops in Afghanistan are so restricted in ways that they're not even allowed to fire on the enemy without permission -- which means that the Taliban and al Qaeda can shoot at our soldiers at will and then disappear while our forces are trying to get permission to return fire. And that isn't even the worst of all. The COIN doctrine forbids us to try to vet Afghans who want to work with the military. The result has been massive infiltration and an ever-growing number of green-on-blue attacks by our supposed "allies" against the American troops who are risking their lives to train them. And the green-on-blue attacks are only one aspect of the infiltration. The Taliban always seem to know what operations our troops are going to undertake...." www.americanthinker.com
19 posted on 07/24/2013 6:52:28 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Maybe the same person who named the operation “Extortion 17”...


23 posted on 07/24/2013 7:00:25 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

UH-1s are not fast movers as they have a lower cruise speed than a CH-47F, by about 20 knots. Dispersing the force across UH-60s, if they were available, would have been a better idea but Mogadishu showed that even they are vulnerable to RPGs. Also, 3305 Hueys were lost in Vietnam.


29 posted on 07/24/2013 7:57:27 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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