Posted on 07/27/2013 2:38:48 PM PDT by PapaBear3625
(original title, had to be shortened to fit):Bloodbath in Cairo: More than 120 dead and 1,000 injured after police 'shoot to kill' in violent clashes which have rocked Egypt
More than 120 people are believed to have been killed at a protest in support of Egypt's ousted President Mohammed Morsi, according to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Security forces are reported to have started shooting demonstrators shortly before pre-dawn morning prayers at a round-the-clock vigil in Cairo being staged by backers of Morsi, who was removed from power by the army three weeks ago.
Makeshift field hospitals around the area near the Rabaa al-Adawiya mosque were overwhelmed, with one doctor telling the BBC that more than 1,000 had been injured.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
In the old Knute Rockny style, “Hit ‘em again...harder, harder...Hit ‘em again, harder, harder...”
...........well, sitting here looking at all the pics on this thread, I am seriously conflicted. On the one hand, we see millions of little brown men on “one side” trying to kill millions of little brown men on the “other side”. In the middle of both sides are tens of thousands of other little brown men in Army uniforms allegedly firing at one side and not the other. But, since you can’t believe a damn thing the press says anymore, who the hell knows? And, anyway, in the immortal words of the dumbest woman to ever walk the planet..........”WHAT DOES IT MATTER AT THIS POINT!!!???”
That said, maybe the dumb woman is on to something! I mean both sides in the streets of Egypt, almost to a man, believe in the Koran and Allah and Sharia law. Just some of these beliefs are: 1. Stoning women for myriad but minor offenses against men; feeling generous sometimes they shoot them in the head 2. Grown mens right to marrying babies 3. Selling off their own children to grown men 4. unlimited beating of your own wife 5. Having multiple wives 6. Suicide bombing that kills children
So, as the dumb woman said, and when it comes to supporting one side in the streets or the other.........’WHAT DOES IT MATTER AT THIS POINT!!!???
Pi$$ poor shooting indeed
I read somewhere - perhaps UK papers that the Army was using riot rounds to include birdshot to try and disperse the crowds. That is likely why so many were wounded and so few were killed.
The Egyptian Army has plenty of belt-fed machine-guns - MG42’s, RPD’s, and M-60’s. If they wanted to mow down the crowds I am pretty sure the numbers would be far different. This was a riot response - not a kill them all response.
I attended a course with an Egyptian Officer and he detested the radical Islamists - from what I understand most of their military dislikes the radicals. This violence and the casualties cemented what I believed already - the Egyptian Army is now in an all-out war with the MB and they will never give in to them - their survival is at stake and the Army is the real power in Egypt. Morsi was a moron - too much and too fast. The MB should have found someone a little less arrogant.
Like someone else said - Go Army!
it’s hard to square the Egyptian military’s practice of virginity checks and its role in the Port Said soccer massacre with a decent respect for civilians.
I don't know, but 120 sounds like a good start.
Recent pics of Hillary indicate that she’s done. Burnt out. No possibility of her even running.
I’m trying to care. Lots of pics in the article, very graphic. But I don’t. Pass popcorn.
Not in Egypt..this is Secularists against the Muslim Brotherhood....Egypt is not Arabs...Egypt is Egyptians though they have an Arab populace....
It matters.
The MB is a racist/marxist terrorist group that derives its power from hostile groups and nations that would see you subjugated. If you want to join the family of modern nations, kill as many of them as you can.
Only 120? Awwwww. Notice how the majority of the Egyptian people aren’t upset by this? That’s good.
“The Muslim Brotherhood claim they are willing to die for their faith; so what’s their problem?
Islam places no value on life, so why are they complaining now that their followers are dying for their cause?”
Seriously!!
Will one ‘journalist’ ask this question, and follow up till answered?
How about asking Kerry, or McCain, or [insert your pick here].
They can’t ask, because the answer reveals the demonic insanity of the MB’s ‘faith’.
4. unlimited beating of your own wife 5. Having multiple wives
You have to have #5 cause you get tired of beating
the same wife all the time.
The headline also helps Obama and his Administration as they
can at least exploit the propaganda angle inherent in it.
And I would also had that the reporting helps support the idea that the constituency being controlled through military action is just another expression o& the “Arab Spring”,exactly as it was mistakenly conceived to be during the “uprisisng” against Mubarak.
One side is as bad as the other. We should not try to help either side.
Sad and possibly true
these are recent occurrences (since the “revolution” actually)
the soccer melee was a combo of fan violence, bad management and poor decisions by Egyptian police, the military was actually brought in to restore order and rescue people. Some people screwed up and some people died. This was not an intentional massacre
the women who underwent “virginity checks” had them peformed because the police claimed they were apprehended in compromising conditions (allegedly camping in tents with men, and with weapons) and the police claim to want to forestall claims of rape by these women ...
Maybe not our cup of tea (not that we haven’t had our share of women being molested by police based on the thinnest allegations of crime) but this is not America, it is a Middle Eastern muslim-influenced culture and society. If you think a MB police and miltary will do a better job then my wish is that you get to live under that
Compared to others, the Egyptian military officers were (probably still are) representative of the Egyptian middle and upper middle class, educated many of them in Europe and US, and probably the best source of future leaders capable of steering the country to secularism, civil order and a real representative government. Other than Jordan (and Israel of course), there are no others I can think of that are comparable in respecting civilian rights, in a western-oriented cultural sense. That is why the obamite islamists hate and distrust them
You would have to travel there and meet the people to experience it for yourself
Need to know......Revealing....
Reporting on the ‘Investigations’ In Giza...Bein- al- Sarayat...Albar-al_Aazam and on the Giza bridge:
The Giza Prosecution has received a copy of the investigations conducted by Egyptian Homeland Security into the clashes that took place between supporters and opponents of President Mohamed Morsy in the districts of Bein al-Sarayat and al-Bahr al-Aazam, as well as on Giza Bridge, which left 36 people dead and 500 others injured......
The investigations revealed that the ‘leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood’ and their allies’,... who are being detained for 15 days pending investigation,.... are implicated in murder and attempted murder ‘of citizens’,..... that they have funded their supporters to take the country into a “dark tunnel,”...... and that they provided them with weapons to kill innocent people,.... all within a plan to reinstate the deposed regime.
Judicial sources told Al-Masry Al-Youm that prosecutors will go to al-Aqrab prison to face the defendants with evidence on 30 June, the date their incarceration could be renewed.
Investigations also revealed that .....the defendants paid masked and armed terrorists to take positions on roofs of buildings near Cairo University... and Giza Bridge.... and shoot at citizens, .....pointing out that this was part of a plan called... “Plight to Overthrow of the Regime.”
Egyptian Homeland Security is investigating further the role that former Minister of Supply Bassem Ouda played in the events of the al-Bahr al-Aazam and al-Mahatta streets,...... as a preliminary investigation showed that he took part in a march from al-Nahda Square to al-Bahr al-Aazam Street, ......then the armed elements stood on Giza Bridge and started shooting citizens in the eyes and the chest.
Investigations also showed that those “extremist” elements killed the two citizens whose bodies were found in the al-Orman public park,...... which confirms that Jihadists were behind those killings.
Egyptian Homeland Security said that members of the Guidance Bureau and the Freedom and Justice Party, with their allies who are jailed in the al-Aqrab prison, ........sent the groups that filled al-Nahda Square and Giza Bridge to control these vital areas, ......which prompted the residents of al-Bahr al-Aazam, Bein al-Sarayat, and al-Mahatta to resist them.
It added that millions of pounds were paid by the defendants to purchase weapons from abroad,.......... and that they paid their supporters to carry out their plan to reinstate the former regime,........ which was confirmed when Hazem Abu Ismail was arrested at his home in Dokki with LE1.25 million in cash in his possession.
Investigations also found out that the defendants told their supporters this was a jihad in the name of God, and for the victory of Islam, and that the Brotherhood’s plan was aimed to distort the military and paralyze the country with the bloodshed that it had planned.
The detainees are Hazem Abu Ismail, leader of the Salafi al-Raya Party, Helmy al-Gazzar, a leading figure of the Freedom and Justice Party, Abdel Moneim Abdel Maqsoud, the lawyer for the Muslim Brotherhood, and former MP Mohamed al-Omda.
Prosecutors ordered the seizure of their bank accounts, and banned them from accessing their funds.
Also banned from accessing their funds are Saad al-Katatny, head of the Freedom and Justice Party, and Rashad Baioumy, deputy supreme guide of the Muslim Brotherhood, who were released pending investigation into the Bein al-Sarayat case.
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