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Court to Decide if Lawyers Can Block Gays From Juries
NY Times ^ | 7/29/13 | ADAM LIPTAK

Posted on 07/29/2013 4:17:11 PM PDT by Libloather

WASHINGTON — Last month’s Supreme Court rulings on same-sex marriage were major gay rights victories. But countless questions about the legal rights of gay men and lesbians remain.

Here’s one: May gays be excluded from juries on account of their sexual orientation? The federal appeals court in California will soon decide the issue, which turns out to be surprisingly knotty.

It arose at the 2011 trial of an antitrust fight between two giant drug companies. After a potential juror appeared to reveal that he was gay, a lawyer for Abbott Laboratories used a peremptory strike — one that does not require a reason — to eliminate him from the jury pool.

An opposing lawyer objected, saying the juror “is or appears to be, could be, homosexual.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: court; gays; homosexualagenda; jury; lawyers
How does anyone prove that they're gay?
1 posted on 07/29/2013 4:17:11 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
After a potential juror appeared to reveal that he was gay, a lawyer for Abbott Laboratories used a peremptory strike — one that does not require a reason — to eliminate him from the jury pool.

A peremptory strike doesn't require a reason. They can cut someone because they don't like the cut of his jib. They don't have to explain it.

2 posted on 07/29/2013 4:21:37 PM PDT by marron
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To: Libloather

Or not for that mater...


3 posted on 07/29/2013 4:22:24 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: Libloather
How does anyone prove that they're gay?

Check with Odungo, who checks with Holder, who checks with the IRS, who checks with the IRS new hire, who doesn't need a background check and has a few convictions for extortion and blackmail

4 posted on 07/29/2013 4:24:37 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: marron

I usually wear a Tu Tu and a pancake on my head and carry a copy of Don Quixote when called,

Its only failed once...


5 posted on 07/29/2013 4:26:29 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: Libloather
How does anyone prove that they're gay?

These days, there is likely to be video.

6 posted on 07/29/2013 4:31:34 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Libloather

This will be decided that being a homosexual is not a valid reason to be excluded from a jury if for no other reason than a huge number of potential jury candidates will suddenly become gay to get out of jury duty.


7 posted on 07/29/2013 4:36:58 PM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: marron
There is recent case law that peremptory strikes may not be used to exclude members of a particular race from a jury. If there is a suspicion that it is being used for that, the court or opposing counsel can question the attorney on the reasons why the peremptory is being used, and can refuse to allow it if the explanation does not reveal some other reason. This is what it has come to in Amerikka.

So, given that case law, if homosexuality could be treated as a protected class of people, then, yes, it might be improper to strike a juror for that reason alone.

Of course, a good lawyer has thought of some other reason why they are using their peremptory when questioned about it. It would be tougher to do if there were 4 minorities on the panel and you struck each one. With one or two, it's easier to get away with. Not that I've ever had to deal with, my cases have not been of the kind that it mattered to me.

8 posted on 07/29/2013 4:38:33 PM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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An opposing lawyer objected, saying the juror “is or appears to be, could be, homosexual.”

And pray tell, how does being or appearing to be homosexual some how make a potential juror "qualified" or "more qualified" than a heterosexual? WTH?!?!?!

You really can NOT make this crap up!
9 posted on 07/29/2013 4:39:10 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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“is or appears to be, could be, homosexual.”

That reminds me of the scene in A Clockwork Orange when Alex is being processed for prison by the guard.

"Are you, or have you ever been, a homosexual?"

I bet nobody thought anything of this in 1971, but nowadays there'd be protests.

Mr. Kubrick what do you MEAN by "ever being a homosexual"?

Are you a hater who doesn't KNOW that homosexuals can NEVER under any circumstances change or not be homosexual?

10 posted on 07/29/2013 4:43:04 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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Are you a hater who doesn't KNOW that homosexuals can NEVER under any circumstances change or not be homosexual?

There is no such thing as a homosexual or a heterosexual person. There are only homo -- or heterosexual acts.

-Gore Vidal.

11 posted on 07/29/2013 4:59:51 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Libloather

A person can be struck from a jury for any reason without explanation. So screw the court.


12 posted on 07/29/2013 5:01:13 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Libloather

Hey, they’re allowed on the SCOTUS


13 posted on 07/29/2013 5:02:45 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Libloather

I’m entitled to a jury of my *peers*.Perverts,criminals and mental defectives (among others) do not qualify as “peers”.


14 posted on 07/29/2013 5:11:22 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: Libloather

for a normal person, a gay is not a peer. they do not relate to others the way normal people relate to others.


15 posted on 07/29/2013 5:14:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Libloather

Why do we allow peremptory challenges, anyway? The judge should ask the first potential juror, do you know the parties involved here? No? Congratulations, you’re juror number one. Repeat until twelve.
Shorter trials, diversity in the jury, less people called for jury duty, more qualified jurors.


16 posted on 07/29/2013 9:26:15 PM PDT by Tymesup
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How does anyone prove that they're gay?

EXACTLY. Where is the evidence that there is a 'gay' species? LMAO! Why are courts taking it as fact that there is such a group being oppressed?

The 'gay' people science is no where near as half assed as the 'global warming' science is YET people continue to just accept the 'gay' people dogma as fact. The fact that there was a don't ask don't tell policy should have sealed the deal long ago on this canard.

17 posted on 07/29/2013 11:36:24 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
ACTUALLY all human beings with few exceptions are heterosexual. Heterosexual is a scientific term and has to do with how a species procreates, in the case of humans -two sexes, male & female. One is a heterosexual REGARDLESS they choose to or choose not to engage in any sexual activity.

Homosexual is a leftist construct that has to do with subjective feelings regarding certain forms of disordered recreational sex. It has nothing to do objectively with a state of being.

18 posted on 07/29/2013 11:42:35 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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ACTUALLY all human beings with few exceptions are heterosexual.

Well, I'm certain virtually everyone is born either male or female (except for hemaphrodites) with a complete set of genes, hormones, sensibilities and free will.

It's sometime after that, due to their childhood environment, they either develop normally, or become a perverted child molester, axe-murderer, or democRAT.

19 posted on 07/30/2013 4:41:06 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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