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Former CIA Director Woolsey Warns of Existential Threat to America
http://www.rightsidenews.com/2013073132981/us/homeland-security/former-cia-director-woolsey-warns-of ^ | 7/31/13 | Center for Security Policy

Posted on 07/31/2013 6:47:06 PM PDT by RightSideNews

Former Director of Central Intelligence, R. James Woolsey led a panel discussion on the growing and imminent threat a nuclear or natural electromagnetic pulse, EMP, to America's power grid and devastating loss of life that would follow such an attack. President Bill Clinton’s former Director of Central Intelligence, R. James Woolsey, led a panel discussion on Natural EMPthe growing – and perhaps imminent – threat of a natural or nuclear electromagnetic pulse (EMP) to the U.S. electric grid and other critical infrastructures that sustain modern civilization and the lives of millions of Americans. The event was sponsored by the newly established EMP Coalition, of which Mr. Woolsey is the Honorary Co-Chair along with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich

Other participants were Ambassador Henry Cooper and Dr. Peter Vincent Pry. Ambassador Cooper led strategic arms control negotiations with the USSR under President Reagan and served as the Director of the Strategic Defense Initiative Organization under President George H.W. Bush. His is currently the Chairman of High Frontier, an organization dedicated to protecting the United States from nuclear attack. Dr. Pry served on the Congressional EMP Threat Commission, as a professional staff member on the House Armed Services Committee and as an analyst in the CIA. He is now the Executive Director of the Task Force on National and Homeland Security, a congressional advisory board dedicated to national resiliency in the face of EMP and other threats.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: defense; emp; homelandsecurity; prepper

1 posted on 07/31/2013 6:47:06 PM PDT by RightSideNews
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To: RightSideNews
EMP is a low probability high risk threat.

He ignores the high probability manifest high risk threat in the Offal Office.

2 posted on 07/31/2013 6:50:29 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: RightSideNews
threats to...other critical infrastructures that sustain modern civilization and the lives of millions of Americans.

Like muslim immigration...

3 posted on 07/31/2013 6:51:46 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: RightSideNews
EMP = Every Moslem Person.
4 posted on 07/31/2013 6:54:52 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: RightSideNews

“National resiliency” in a nation filled to the brim with people of Sheila jackson Lee’s capacity is a tall order.

Anything falling down is unlikely to be put back up. Already today, I think, the US would be unable to build much of its own infrastructure.


5 posted on 07/31/2013 6:55:07 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: RightSideNews
Doubters should read this book:

One Second After

and look at this 2010 link in USA Today:

One EMP burst and the world goes dark

6 posted on 07/31/2013 6:58:02 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Hardraade
Just watched "Idiocracy" again the other day....

Jus how much different is this from the Liberal utopia Detroit?

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7 posted on 07/31/2013 7:03:58 PM PDT by digger48
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To: digger48

We still recognize drinking water?


8 posted on 07/31/2013 7:05:45 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: RightSideNews

Our Malthusian petri dish is getting a little crowded. It is a good time to be old. We have lived the easiest existence ever experienced by homo sapiens...and listen to us bitch. We live in interesting times.


9 posted on 07/31/2013 7:10:29 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: null and void

the stuff in the toilet???


10 posted on 07/31/2013 7:17:41 PM PDT by digger48
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To: RightSideNews

Save


11 posted on 07/31/2013 7:20:05 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: digger48
About the 3rd comment on Amazon guy has been trying to convince people says it's not as bad as that. 3 months prepping.

The Amish and those off the grid will survive if not overrun by flash snobs.

Odd that the last 3, I believe, missile intercept tests failed. Does not compute.

12 posted on 07/31/2013 7:22:51 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: gorush

“May you Live in Interesting Times” is a Chinese proverb meant
to be a curse.


13 posted on 07/31/2013 7:35:04 PM PDT by lbryce (The 22nd Amendment Lives:1195 Days Until America's Greatest Nemesis Gets the Heave "Ho")
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To: lbryce

Seems about right.


14 posted on 07/31/2013 7:35:51 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: RightSideNews

Who needs an EMP when a country can manufacture its own demise from within? We have done this.


15 posted on 07/31/2013 7:36:42 PM PDT by Bravada (Wherever I Stand, I Stand With Israel!)
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To: RightSideNews
In a state of fear.....good grief.

Story after story after story, whipping people up about this or that.

The real story is the gubbamint turning on it's citizens. EMP is the last thing I'm worried about.

16 posted on 07/31/2013 7:46:02 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: RightSideNews

Other existential threats to America, according to the CIA:

1) Sharknados.
2) Lethal strain of antibiotic-resistant Bieber Fever.
3) MLB steroid abuse.
4) Jenkem.
5) Privacy.


17 posted on 07/31/2013 7:48:40 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: Aliska
reenactors of the war of independence and civil war will fare better than most.
18 posted on 07/31/2013 7:50:37 PM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: RightSideNews

Where does the benefit of the doubt now lay?

This is conceptual prep-work for THEM “reminding” us about juuust how valuable they are.

Now us green-toothed slubberdegullions outside the beltway are having serious questions about the Constitutional fitness of most high-budget, electronic cloak-and-dagger programs.

They feel their pound of flesh is threatened by all these pestering civilian questions, and so they’re going to re-arrange our priorities and put us IN OUR PLACE.

If an EMP attack comes to pass I would blame OUR SIDE first; they’ll first harden up their gear to all eternity, and then they’ll banish us peasants to the stone-age.

Our betters are sharpening the blade, prepping up to PUNISH us.


19 posted on 07/31/2013 7:52:49 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: null and void

That comment is the truth. The government wants to create a scare and force companies to bankrupt themselves trying to protect themselves from an EMP burst. Once private industry is broke then government can excuse themselves to take over.

The truth is that most people who work in electrical generation/distribution know of many very simple ways in which the electrical grid can be collapsed, and it doesn’t take millions of dollars and a nuke weapon. For obvious reasons they don’t talk about these ways, but the fact that terrorists haven’t even tried these simple things up to now leads me to believe that we have succeeded in killing many of the “brainiacs” of the mooselimb terror network. The real danger is the politics that comes from the oral office.


20 posted on 07/31/2013 7:56:55 PM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: RightSideNews

Our family is prepared for such an attack. I made and executed a contingency plan after meeting with Frank Gaffney in 2005 and having him explain the threat. Google “Faraday cage” to get started.


21 posted on 07/31/2013 8:04:58 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Excellence
Some civil war re-eactors set up here every year not far. Maybe they have 3 months' worth of stuff laid up. Or are prepared to "procure" on the fly.

I forgot the Mormons; they will do fine for the most part. There is a Congressman who is a prepper, has a nice cabin w/basement in the woods, all stocked, a Seventy-Day Adventist I believe.

I'm too old for this kind of stuff. But I have to do what I can.

22 posted on 07/31/2013 8:23:12 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

You forgot Talk Radio...

Not sure if that should be Number 1, or down the list somewhere...;-)


23 posted on 07/31/2013 8:50:49 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: RightSideNews
"Former CIA Director Woolsey Warns of Existential Threat to America"

Woolsey is a self-described inside-the-beltway / Washington DC attorney who has no training whatsoever to be spearheading discussions involving the laws of physics. I guess his former global warming gigs are starting to dry up.....
24 posted on 07/31/2013 9:04:12 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: RightSideNews

The biggest existential threat to America was reelected last November. We still have another four more years of fundamental transformation ahead of us. May God have mercy....


25 posted on 07/31/2013 9:09:23 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: RightSideNews

BTTT!


26 posted on 07/31/2013 9:45:08 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: null and void

+1


27 posted on 07/31/2013 10:33:10 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: 2banana

+1


28 posted on 07/31/2013 10:33:39 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: RightSideNews

29 posted on 08/01/2013 12:08:29 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: Aliska

The Amish and those off the grid will survive if not overrun by flash snobs.

Tea Party people living near amish should form millitias to protect them in case SHTF....


30 posted on 08/01/2013 8:29:35 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG
Tea Party people living near amish should form millitias to protect them in case SHTF....

You jest lol. The Amish ought to be prepared to protect themselves from desperate marauders of other demographic groups.

31 posted on 08/01/2013 10:01:26 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska

You jest lol. The Amish ought to be prepared to protect themselves from desperate marauders of other demographic groups.

The Amish aren’t known for defnding themselves as they are pacifists.

We would need to form a “Protectors of the Amish” group to defending them against hungry angry city dwellers.


32 posted on 08/01/2013 10:14:30 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: RightSideNews

I agree that an EMP is a risk, along with other risks like an influenza pandemic, the eruption of a supervolcano, and the start of another Ice Age.

I just lived through a flood that destroyed much of my home town. Everyone was affected somehow, but some had little damage, and some had catastrophic damage. Everyone lost something. The water level was the highest ever recorded here. My point is that an EMP will affect things in the same way - hit and miss damage, with some extreme devastation, and some folks just cleaning up. There would be death and chaos, but not on the level of “One Second After.” Furthermore, the rest of the world would remain intact, and they’d respond somehow - again, probably some friendly intervention, and probably some aggressive actions against us. In any case, we would get assistance, or intervention.

My gut feeling is that an EMP attack on the United States would initially be destructive, but then the country would rebuild and respond. Everyone would have a story of pain and hardship, and that would translate politically into revenge. It might take 10 or 20 years, but the rebuilt country would retaliate against whoever launched the attack, and then continue against those who supported the attackers. The American Empire would emerge, with the motto “We’ll Kick Your Ass” and the slogan “You F*ck With Us, We Will Kill You.” In other words, a militarized state, probably with traditional authoritarian elements, wrapped in an ideology of a republic. Then, like Rome, we would continue in one form or another for another millennium and a half.

Hey, it’s just as probable as the “we’re all going to die” scenario. All I really know is that I don’t want to be here if it happens.


33 posted on 08/01/2013 12:45:15 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Add to your list:

Purple Drank (a.k.a. "fire-ass lean").

It's what Trayvon was carrying the ingredients for (and his liver showed evidence of) when he was shot while returning for his innocent little trip to the corner store for "a few Skittles" (an ingredient of lean).

34 posted on 08/01/2013 1:20:31 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: redpoll
Then, like Rome, we would continue in one form or another for another millennium and a half.

Rome was built by its army and social system. The social system produced marginalization and impoverishment, and the army provided a way to work off personal resentments against people who lived far away. The more Italian rural society decayed, driving people off the land and into the towns, the bigger the recruitment pool grew.

Already, by the time of the Scipios and Hannibal, Rome was regularly fielding as many as 20+ legions at one time. Each legion numbering (in those days) about 3600-4200 men, you can imagine what the size of that army was. Hannibal was a hurting puppy from the git-go.

The driver and beneficiary of the depopulation of rural Italy by the accumulation of broad estates (latifundia, which operated like our own agribusinesses) was the Roman senatorial class -- which made all policy. Funny coincidence.

Concentration of wealth to the breaking point finally vassalized what was left of Roman, Italian, and provincial freehold farmers. It also impoverished the imperial government as well, which was never able to break the senatorial class to the indignity of paying taxes. Their tax-avoidance legerity made them the masters of those who lacked such skills (the middle class and farmers), creating the social system of feudalism and the Dark Age.

35 posted on 08/01/2013 1:30:37 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: GraceG
I figured they are pretty much pacifists. I hope if push comes to shove they aren't just going to let criminals mow them down to get what they have. I'm not sure they would defend themselves so like you said, there wold have to be a protectors group. They might not like that either.

If such a scenario becomes a reality, most people will be left to defending themselves and theirs like we can't depend on the police.

36 posted on 08/01/2013 1:37:55 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Kartographer

SHTF ping


37 posted on 08/02/2013 2:42:43 AM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: montag813

Re: Faraday cage. I’m a little confused about which type of EMP to prep for. The charged particle EMP of a solar flare, the gamma burst of nuclear weapons and deep space or the magnetic pulse of a high-atmosphere EMP weapon? I don’t think a Faraday cage is effective against a magnetic pulse. After some research my solution is to bury essential spare parts under 4-6’ of earth. I haven’t done that as the water table where I live is 2’ down.


38 posted on 08/02/2013 3:17:23 AM PDT by Justa
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