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Snowden deals blow to ‘global electronic prison camp’ – Russian Orthodox Church
Russia Today ^ | July 30, 2013

Posted on 08/01/2013 11:01:59 AM PDT by Rennes Templar

Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin has praised Russian authorities for not caving in to pressure from abroad, saying granting asylum to US whistleblower Edward Snowden would help prevent the establishment of a ‘global electronic prison camp’.

“It is encouraging news that Russia is demonstrating its independence in this case as it has in many others, despite the pressure” said the head of the Holy Synod’s Department for Relations between the Church and Society.

Vsevolod Chaplin added that the Snowden saga has been broadly discussed both on the domestic and international level, with Russia’s position potentially bolstering its image as a country upholding “the true freedom of ideals.”

The Russian cleric further argued that Snowden’s revelations confirmed the existence of a pernicious problem discussed by Orthodox Christians for many years – “the prospective of a global electronic-totalitarian prison camp”.

“First they get people addicted to convenient means of communication with the authorities, businesses and among each other. In a while people become rigidly connected to these services and as a result the economic and political owners of these services get tremendous and terrifying power. They cannot help feeling the temptation to use this power to control the personality and such control might eventually be much stricter that all known totalitarian systems of the twentieth century,” Interfax news agency quoted Chaplin as saying.

The church official added that in his view true democracy remained an unreachable ideal.

“Any political system fixes the domination of a few over many. In the twentieth century the harshest forms of such political power used brute force, but now they are using soft power, through total data collecting and through soft persuasion of people, first through slogans but then through legal acts,” Chaplin explained. He noted that currently the soft power system was promoting such topics as declaring the western political system as the only viable option, making religion a marginal trend, and sidelining both criticism of market fundamentalism and leftist political platforms.

Chaplin urged Russian authorities to defend “real freedom, the freedom from the global ideological dictate and from the electronic prison camp.”

The cleric also offered a possible solution – the development of its own electronic communications system that would be independent from foreign-based mediums. “The nation has the brains for this and I hope we will also have a will,” Chaplin declared.

Russia is currently considering Edward Snowden’s request for temporary asylum and the former NSA contractor still remains in the transit zone of the Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport.

The Russian Justice Ministry on Tuesday sent a formal response to a letter from US Attorney General, who assured Moscow that Snowden would not face the prospect of death or torture if handed over to the United States.

The Russian ministry did not provide the details of its reply to the press.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: benghazi; fastandfurious; impeachnow; irs
"..Russia’s position potentially bolstering its image as a country upholding “the true freedom of ideals.”'

Is the world upside down or what?

1 posted on 08/01/2013 11:01:59 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

Was the archpriest speaking for himself, or from a memo that the Russian Foreign Ministry provided?


2 posted on 08/01/2013 11:03:23 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Rennes Templar

Upside down is right.


3 posted on 08/01/2013 11:03:35 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Good question.


4 posted on 08/01/2013 11:05:09 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Mr. President, can you hear a special prosecutor now?)
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To: Rennes Templar

Now have an inkling of how Lord Cornwallis may have felt as he listened in his quarters (he refused to go out and participate in the surrender) at Yorktown to the British band playing “The World Turned Upside Down”.


5 posted on 08/01/2013 11:05:46 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Rennes Templar; a fool in paradise

Chaplin is no clown!


6 posted on 08/01/2013 11:06:40 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: katana

Did they actually play that?


7 posted on 08/01/2013 11:08:08 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Mr. President, can you hear a special prosecutor now?)
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To: 2001convSVT

Jay Carney said Snowden cannot stay in Russia. Putin says he can. Carney said this could jeopardize a presidential visit from Barack next month. Putin laughs. Between this and the Anti-Gay Propaganda Laws in Russia. Obama may have the state department deny the Olympic team from leaving the USA. If I was on the team I’d be in Russia now.


8 posted on 08/01/2013 11:08:33 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Rennes Templar

Sometimes one group’s whistle blower is another group’s traitor...not sure which side this guy is on but that he ratted out a group far worse shames the country.


9 posted on 08/01/2013 11:09:42 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Rennes Templar
Yes.

/johnny

10 posted on 08/01/2013 11:10:12 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: massgopguy
Carney said this could jeopardize a presidential visit from Barack next month.

Who gives a shi!. Communists BLACK Muslim is a piece of crap to Putin. King Obama destroys everything he has touched. Barack is just a tiny stink bug.

11 posted on 08/01/2013 11:13:08 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Rennes Templar; wideawake

"Vsevolod, it would be a shame if something was released
to the public if you do not condemn the collection of email correspondence."


"Uh, ok."

12 posted on 08/01/2013 11:13:12 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: massgopguy
So the ball less boy wonder president is going to use Snowden as an excuse to avoid Putin.

Great work Obie.

13 posted on 08/01/2013 11:13:47 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: Rennes Templar
Yep. They sure did. There's a pretty nice video of the reenactment at Yorktown in 2006 on the 225th anniversary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6TiooNqPmE

14 posted on 08/01/2013 11:15:21 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Rennes Templar

The cleric also offered a possible solution – the development of its own electronic communications system that would be independent from foreign-based mediums. “The nation has the brains for this and I hope we will also have a will,” Chaplin declared.


And they also have the guy to build it! Win-win all around.


15 posted on 08/01/2013 11:17:11 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Rennes Templar

And smoeday he’ll get to share a “real prison cell” with Bradley Manning.


16 posted on 08/01/2013 11:21:25 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Ah, flexibility!


17 posted on 08/01/2013 11:24:35 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Rennes Templar

Who cares about Russia...just give me my free obamaphones. Half a dozen will hold me for a few weeks.


18 posted on 08/01/2013 11:32:35 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Wolfie

I hope he remains free as a reward for his bravery.


19 posted on 08/01/2013 11:33:54 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Mr. President, can you hear a special prosecutor now?)
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To: Rennes Templar
Is the world upside down or what?

Nope. We are just on the wrong side of WWIII.

20 posted on 08/01/2013 11:43:38 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

We live in Bizarro World...every day.


21 posted on 08/01/2013 11:52:40 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: txhurl

“the development of its own electronic communications system that would be independent from foreign-based mediums.”

ROL (Russia On Line)


22 posted on 08/01/2013 11:57:01 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Hey, they already got all the best hackers... now if they could just swap out their black hats for white...


23 posted on 08/01/2013 12:06:31 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Rennes Templar

It’s crazy that Russian Society gets it much more than the US.


24 posted on 08/01/2013 12:09:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DonaldC

Maybe Snowden will convert to the Russian Orthodox Church? he should find a pretty Russian girl and get married—I hope he’s learning Russian. Maybe the Ruskies will put him on the Cruiser Moscow and take him to Cuba? That will be the only way he gets to Havana without a drone strike.


25 posted on 08/01/2013 12:40:52 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Rennes Templar
"Then God reveals prophetic messages on Russia's church, saying that Russia will be the country that will glorify Him more than any other country and that she will be the head (spiritually) of many nations."

An Introduction To The Messages

26 posted on 08/01/2013 1:07:43 PM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: GBA

The days of the U.S. lording it over Russia and China over civil rights issues are done. It is the U.S. that has a president who uses the constitution for ... cleaning his boots. It is the U.S. that leads the world in prisons. And now, with the exposure of NSA plans to build a computer center five times the size of the Pentagon to store the records of every comunication, phone or net, inside the country and going out, it looks as if jokes about Rusian abuse of its people will be few and far between. Think about that when you wonder about Putin’s motives. What he is doing is exercising his new comand of the moral high ground.


27 posted on 08/01/2013 2:59:35 PM PDT by jaunpaz
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To: Rennes Templar

Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin has praised Russian authorities for not caving in to pressure from abroad, saying granting asylum to US whistleblower Edward Snowden would help prevent the establishment of a ‘global electronic prison camp’.
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Boy that is a great way to put it. ‘global electronic prison camp’.

Pass it on


28 posted on 08/01/2013 3:04:24 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: txhurl

I have thought that we all should build our own comm groups. I would sign up in a minute for a PRIVATE system. I have nothing to hide. I just hate the idea of what it happening to my country.


29 posted on 08/01/2013 3:16:01 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: jaunpaz
Perhaps there's a reason for all things:

"Then God reveals prophetic messages on Russia's church, saying that Russia will be the country that will glorify Him more than any other country and that she will be the head (spiritually) of many nations."

An Introduction To The Messages

30 posted on 08/01/2013 3:17:25 PM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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