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Part-time women doctors ARE a real problem. Why is it sexist to say so? (Melanie Phillips)
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 9 June 2013 | Melanie Phillips

Posted on 08/03/2013 5:22:57 PM PDT by neverdem

Never did three words, surely, have a more explosive and utterly disproportionate effect.

In a Commons debate last week on the deficiencies of the new 111 emergency service, a Tory MP, Anne McIntosh, suggested one reason why there were too few GPs to answer urgent calls.

Since some 70 per cent of medical students were now women, she said, the fact that many of them wanted to have children and then go part-time meant a ‘tremendous burden’ on the NHS if it effectively had to train two GPs to do the work of one.

In reply the junior Health Minister Anna Soubry said: ‘You make a very important point when you talk about, rightly, the good number of women who are training to be doctors, but the unintended consequences

She didn’t actually finish her sentence, but left the thought of ‘the unintended consequences’ hanging in the air. For these three words, she was instantly jumped upon and metaphorically beaten up by a steady procession of angry women.

Dr Clare Gerada, head of the Royal College of GPs, was incredulous ‘that women doctors are being blamed for problems in the NHS’. Another commentator accused Ms Soubry of having delivered ‘the biggest guilt trip of all when it comes to flexible working’.

Yet others heaped withering scorn upon the hapless Health Minister. Didn’t she understand that women had babies? So of course women doctors wanted to work part-time. Duh! And because it suited women to do so, there couldn’t possibly be any problem with that. It was obviously the perfect solution for absolutely everyone. End of argument. No awareness whatever of the total absence of logic in such claims — not to mention the failure to acknowledge the interests of anyone other than women doctors.

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To: neverdem

The one female doctor I know makes about $100,000. The three male doctors I know make between $300,00 and about $400,000. Two of the male doctors are in the same specialty as her. Why the difference? Because she will not take a job that requires hospital rotations or being on call. She will work from 8:00 to 5:00 and that’s it. She works for a “doc in a box” clinic.


41 posted on 08/03/2013 7:10:26 PM PDT by suthener
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To: BenLurkin

See this all the time in my field. Girl docs work part time.

Actully have realized how bad it is to have females in a number of career catagories and how their presence has increased disability claims.

Example: Police work. Aside from the fact that women seem much quicker feel threatened and draw their gun, women take up a disproportionate number of desk jobs in police work. In the old days, when the patrolmen were injured they rotated into desk work. Now those jobs are taken and disability happens.

Another example: Construction. Women mostly work as flaggers and traffic monitors. In the old days when a guy was hurt on the job, he rotated to traffic monitoring until he was better, now those jobs are permanently filled often by women.


42 posted on 08/03/2013 7:11:54 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: utahagen
proctology... but i wouldn't recommend it
43 posted on 08/03/2013 7:14:31 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: utahagen

Ortho
Surgery but you are too old to start there
Gastro


44 posted on 08/03/2013 7:15:13 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: utahagen
Uta, do you want the truth?

Non-female dominated specialties are generally surgical. And if you are over 40, let me tell you, you DON'T want to do a surgical residency.

Think 100 hour weeks.

Supposedly the laws have changed for max hour/week that residents can work, but I guarantee that they haven't (officially) for surgical residencies.

My advice is go dermatology. If the SHTF with Obamacare (and it will) you can go to an all-cash boutique/spa practice.

45 posted on 08/03/2013 8:00:07 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: neverdem

Elements of this show up everywhere.

In the military, a deep dark secret is that limited and expensive slots are taken in military colleges and schools, to be filled by females with a lower retention and reenlistment rate.


46 posted on 08/03/2013 8:12:39 PM PDT by ansel12 ( The difference between libertarianism and conservatism is the libertarian liberalism, not economics)
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To: neverdem

It’s difficult to be a part-time professional in most fields - to stay current with the latest developments in the field, keep up on professional education, maintain the state of mind and focus necessary to do the job - not easy to do on less that a full time basis.....


47 posted on 08/03/2013 8:57:43 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: goodwithagun

Oh, so they aren’t allowed to live lives the way they want? We make them stay home and raise children? Right! And we lose half the doctors in the workforce! That’s a great plan! Did you learn that from the Taliban?


48 posted on 08/03/2013 9:21:12 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

Are you sarcasm impaired?


49 posted on 08/03/2013 9:23:33 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: suthener

This female doc worked part time when her kids were young. I now work full time plus to put them through college, am a chair of a department at my hospital and chief of my service. I have never left a mess or expected others to pick up the slack. When I worked part time I spent a great deal of uncompensated time working from home taking phone calls, etc. I did the same residency as the men, back when residency was 100 hours per week plus. I don’t know where folks get some of the garbage they spout on this thread, but I have not known female docs to be any less professional than their male colleagues. Whether working part time or full time. And by the way, part time in the medical field is often the equivalent of full time most other fields.


50 posted on 08/03/2013 9:31:01 PM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: SampleMan
"It is also true that almost all part-time professionals are women, “who want to have it all”."

It's called being selfish. Men who want to have it all have to work much more than 40 hours a week. That is, providing there is work available for them.

51 posted on 08/03/2013 9:44:30 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: All
TRUE PERSONAL STORY:

I laid in a hospital bed this past November at @ 2:00AM, nose badly hemorrhaging. The doctor on duty was female, perhaps late-30s. She could not figure out how to address the problem, became frustrated and gave up. As she and her staff of four nurses walked away from me, she uttered: "THIS IS BEYOND MY AREA OF EXPERTISE." I was left to gulp blood and pinched my nose to little avail. ALONE. Almost bled to death.

A few blood transfusions and an hour later later a *male* ENT showed up and stopped the bleeding.

52 posted on 08/03/2013 9:57:34 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: neverdem

I’d rather have a part-time female doctor who is effective and who speaks excellent English than some full-timer brought in from another country. My OB/GYN is female part-time and she’s one of the best docs I’ve ever had. She caught my gestational diabetes very early (she ordered the tests weeks earlier than the guidelines called for), and she sewed me up after my C-section so well that there is NO scar. Seriously. My sons’ ped is a part-time female doctor, and again, just excellent. If that’s the only way that smart female docs can be in the work force, then more power to ‘em.


53 posted on 08/03/2013 10:51:35 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: neverdem

I’m sorry, but this is stupid. Government-run medical care is the problem. Everything else is just details: “part-time women doctors,” Moslem doctors who won’t treat women, Moslem nurses who won’t wash their hands, death panels, fill in your complaint. Every one can be traced back to government control of the supply, price, and distribution of medical services.


54 posted on 08/04/2013 5:08:51 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: Mom MD

“I don’t know where folks get some of the garbage they spout on this thread”

I got the “garbage” from first hand personal experience. I was not questioning her professionalism or yours. I did not say she wasn’t a good doctor. I was simply saying that she, like a lot women in the workplace, has different priorities. I’m sorry if I insulted you. That was not my intention.


55 posted on 08/04/2013 5:40:23 AM PDT by suthener
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To: neverdem

Prior to selling his practice to a group, my doctor employed a part time woman

I don’t know how much she worked or in what circumstances but she functioned well and seemed competent. After the practice was absorbed, she eventually quit. Part time and a group apparently did not work well.

She had a family and her husband was a physician.

We now have several “Doc’s in a Box” and I would guess that might work out for her.


56 posted on 08/04/2013 5:47:53 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

I’d rather have a part-time female doctor who is effective and who speaks excellent English than some full-timer brought in from another country.

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I don’t mind having female part time docs if the med schools opened more slots to compensate for the loss.


57 posted on 08/04/2013 6:22:04 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: givemELL

The real issue here is that you learn from your cases. A physician who is 50 years old and who has worked full time will have 5000-10000 more cases (less for a surgeon) than a part-timer.


58 posted on 08/04/2013 6:44:14 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Tax-chick

Thank you.

You summed up not only the underlying cause of the problems the article focuses on, but most of the problems mentioned by posters on this thread.


59 posted on 08/04/2013 9:40:34 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

You’re welcome. I’m known for my high-level summaries ;-).


60 posted on 08/04/2013 9:43:59 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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