Posted on 08/03/2013 6:41:16 PM PDT by servo1969
All this is a big joke. Worthless, without true action.
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Just more political theater. The ignorant public will never figure this out.
Great Photos!
Do your tax return in cursive and it’ll be returned as “unreadable”.
Thanks, I love my cameras and the critters!
I always enjoy your postings! :-)
Speaking of Benghazi. . .from a close friend who is a former F-4 fighter pilot.
Betrayal in Benghazi
Colonel, USAF (Ret.)
The combat code of the US Military is that we don’t abandon our dead or wounded on the battlefield. In US Air Force lingo, fighter pilots don’t run off and leave their wingmen. If one of our own is shot down, still alive and not yet in enemy captivity, we will either come to get him or die trying. Among America’s fighting forces, the calm, sure knowledge that such an irrevocable bond exists is priceless. Along with individual faith and personal grit, it is a sacred trust that has often sustained hope in the face of terribly long odds.
The disgraceful abandonment of our Ambassador and those brave ex-SEALs who fought to their deaths to save others in that compound is nothing short of dereliction-of-duty. Additionally, the patently absurd cover-up scenario that was fabricated in the aftermath was an outright lie in attempt to shield the President and the Secretary of State from responsibility.
It has been over eight months since the attack on our compound in Benghazi. The White House strategy, with the aid of a “lap dog press” has been to run out the clock before the truth is forthcoming. The recent testimonies of the three “whistle blowers” have reopened the subject and hopefully will lead to exposure and disgrace of those responsible for this embarrassing debacle.
It would appear that the most recent firewall which the Administration is counting on is the contention that there were simply no military assets that could be brought to bear in time to make a difference… mainly due to the unavailability of tanker support for fighter aircraft. This is simply BS, regardless how many supposed “experts” the Administration trot out to make such an assertion.
The bottom line is that even if the closest asset capable of response was half-way around the world, you don’t just sit on your penguin ass and do nothing. The fact is that the closest asset was not half-way around the world, but as near as Aviano Air Base, Italy where two squadrons of F-16Cs are based.
Consider the following scenario (all times Benghazi local):
-When Hicks in Tripoli receives a call at 9:40 PM from Ambassador Stevens informing him “Greg, we are under attack!” (his last words), he immediately notifies all agencies and prepares for the immediate initiation of an existing “Emergency Response Plan.”
-At AFRICON, General Carter Ham attempts to mount a rescue effort, but is told to “stand down.”
-By 10:30 PM an unarmed drone is overhead the compound and streaming live feed to various Command and Control Agencies… and everyone watching that feed knew damn well what was going on.
-At 11:30 PM Woods, Doherty and five others leave Tripoli, arriving in Benghazi at 1:30 AM on Wednesday morning, where they hold off the attacking mob from the roof of the compound until they are killed by a mortar direct hit at 4:00 AM.
So nothing could have been done, eh? Nonsense.
If one assumes that tanker support really was not available… what about this:
-When at 10:00 PM AFRICON alerts the 31st TFW Command Post in Aviano Air Base, Italy of the attack, the Wing Commander orders preparation for the launch of two F-16s and advises the Command Post at NAS Sigonella to prepare for hot pit refueling and quick turn of the jets.
-By 11:30 PM, two F-16Cs with drop tanks and each armed with five hundred 20 MM rounds are airborne. Flying at 0.92 mach they will cover the 522 nautical miles directly to NAS Sigonella in 1.08 hours.
-While in-route, the flight lead is informed of the tactical situation, rules of engagement, and radio frequencies to use.
-The jets depart Sigonella at 1:10 AM with full fuel load and cover the 377 nautical miles directly to Benghazi in 0.8 hours, arriving at 1:50 AM… which would be 20 minutes after the arrival of Woods, Doherty and their team.
-Providing that the two F-16s initial pass over the mob, in full afterburner at 200 feet and 550 knots did not stop the attack in its tracks, only a few well placed strafing runs on targets of opportunity would assuredly do the trick.
-Were the F-16s fuel state insufficient to recover at Sigonelli after jettisoning their external drop tanks, they could easily do so at Tripoli International Airport, only one-half hour away.
-As for those hand-wringing naysayers who would worry about IFR clearances, border crossing authority, collateral damage, landing rights, political correctness and dozens of other reasons not to act… screw them. It is high time that our “leadership” get their priorities straight and put America’s interests first.
The end result would be that Woods and Doherty would be alive. Dozens in the attacking rabble would be rendezvousing with “72 virgins”… and a clear message would have been sent to the next worthless POS terrorist contemplating an attack on Americans that it is not really a good idea to “tug on Superman’s cape.”
Of course all this would depend upon a Commander In Chief that was more concerned with saving the lives of those he put in harm’s way than getting his crew rest for a campaign fund raising event in Las Vegas the next day. As well as a Secretary of State that actually understood “What difference did it make?”, or a Secretary of Defense whose immediate response was not to the effect that “One of the military tenants is that you don’t commit assets until you fully understand the tactical situation.” Was he not watching a live feed from the unarmed drone… and he didn’t understand the tactical situation?
YGBSM!
Ultimately it comes down to the question of who give that order to “stand down?” Whoever that coward turns out to be should be exposed, removed from office and face criminal charges for dereliction of duty.
The combat forces of the United States of America deserve leadership that really does “have their back” when the chips are down.
Well, you might as well be done with politics if you are “done with the GOP” -— if we don’t have the numbers and power to take over and lead the Republican Party, how in the heck can you ever get the numbers to lead the entire Country?
You are not very good at strategy.
Go do gardening or play more golf, or take up knitting, you suck at politics.
and what do you expect good Republicans in Congress to do?
And why should they even try to do anything, when people like you refuse to protect them or stick up for them?
OK, now pretend YOU are Issa, what would you do, Genius?
“You have absolutely no clue how the world works, or how things get done in this country.”
- I’ve never made a claim about the world, but I do know what the Constitution says about how our country is supposed to work. Here’s a hint: The Republicans are doing it wrong.
“You PRESUME that all of the folks you just mentioned WANT a “third party” and you are foolish to think that way.”
- Jim Robinson came out and wrote that he supports a third party; therefore, I’m presuming nothing. All the others listed were examples of those stabbed in the back by the GOPe. That was made very clear in the paragraph introduction.
“Yes, the GOPe should be aware that the Conservative base is upset with them.”
-They should be? They are aware. They simply don’t give a damn. See my response to the very first point above.
“I, myself, once ran for State Rep. only to find that the retiring GOP lady who I wanted to replace was CAMPAIGNING FOR THE DEMOCRAT behind my back.”
- Ahh, you’re a politician. That explains a lot actually. I, myself, hold prostitutes in higher esteem. At least they tell you up front how they’re going to screw you and how much it will cost.
“So, put away YOUR pride, your arrogance, and your silly notions of how the world might work.”
- Accusation of pride and arrogance: From somebody bragging about all the good they’ve supposedly done and about how much more knowledgable and worldly they are than others on this thread. Yeah, your name calling us getting pretty old there Saul.
“The only hope we have is through a CONSERVATIVE dominated Republican Party.”
- And we’re back to the aforementioned backstabbed that have tried to right the GOPe, but were of course used for publicity and then tossed away. After they were tossed, hello amnesty and what is that? They don’t have to deal with obamacare through a new super-special exemption? Wow! The GOPe is really on the conservative track right now/sarc.
“A Third Party will only GIVE EVERYTHING TO THE LIBERALS!”
- So what? The GOPe is giving everything to the liberals anyway. Looks like we have nothing to lose then!
Go home Karl Rove, you’re drunk.
Putin? What in hell, are you talking about?
Name your political accomplishments or shut up!
You are a loser, and you expect your “Purist” stupidity to cover for your lack of accomplishment.
Politics is hard work.
You are a quitter.
"Mr. President, there will be no further discussions about the debt ceiling, and there will be no continuing resolutions, and there will be no further legislation whatsoever debated in the House until your administration complies with the requests of our committees for the information they need to properly investigate the corruption, lawlessness, and numerous scandals surrounding your administration. Thank you."
I dunno... Something like that. The point is, the House has the power to stop the descendants of the Capone mob dead in their tracks if GOP leaders had the guts to stand up.
No. I am not holding my breath. The GOP is weak. I want nothing to do with those weak cowards. (spit)
What you just posted is exactly the problem! You double faced, lyin’ republican political ash cans. You completely dismissed the VOTER/S, in your post, moron. My guess is- you are a subsidy pimp/whore, Kansas boy.
What are your accomplishments in the political world? Name then or shut up.
I have voted with my hands and my life. What are your accomplishments, Kansas boy?
“Name your political accomplishments or shut up!”
- Wow. Are you going to use the “I’m rubber and you’re glue” meme next? By the way, Jefferson did not want his presidency on his tombstone. A group of pollsters recently discovered that of their sample, citizens preferred STDs over Congress. Bragging about your political accomplishments isn’t a good thing. In fact, FReepers aren’t very big fans of most politicians.
“You are a loser, and you expect your “Purist” stupidity to cover for your lack of accomplishment.”
- Haha! A politician accusing somebody if being a loser. Well, my five year old and two year old think I’m Wonder Woman so there! Yep, that’s about as mature as I can make this for you since you’ve devolved to middle school lunch room tactics. In addition to being Wonder Woman, I’m active in my church charities (those private things that help instead of you politicians taking my money and redistributing it), I work full time, I manage to feed my family from our back yard, and I’m looking forward to baby girl #2 arriving in a couple more weeks because she is currently kicking the crap out of my insides. Oh yeah, my husband thinks I’m Wonder Woman too, because he sees that many of the things I do will assure that our kids will eat when you politicians put the final nail in our country’s coffin. Plus he thinks I’m pretty hot. Can your significant other say that about you? Again, immature, but I’m writing to somebody that is hurling about the term “loser”. Seriously though, I’ve already mentioned what FReepers feel about politicians, and I’ll raise you an example: Hillary is quite fond of hurling about her political accomplishments. I don’t want to be like her. I love the life I’ve made with my husband and I don’t need to brag about it to gain some sort of approval from a guy in front of his computer screen. Or anybody for that matter.
“Politics is hard work.”
- Of course it is. Keeping up with all those lies is very stressful. You have to remember who was told what and when, and who talks to who . . . My heart breaks for politicians and their working conditions. It’s a good thing insider trading is legal for them so that they can boost their bank accounts to make up for all of that hard work!
“You are a quitter.”
- What am I quitting? My involvement in politics is only ever increasing. Heck, being part of the third party you’re accusing me of joining is going to be a lot of work. The only quitters are the members of the GOPe. They’ve quit representing conservatives. They’ve quit upholding the Constitution.
Since this thread is 24 hours old, here is a more current one with fresh meat. These FReepers are really slamming the GOPe: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3051161/posts
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