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WARNING: Someone is Trying to Set Up Liberty Activists Using Child Porn
Oath Keepers Website ^ | 08/03/2013 | Stewart Rhodes

Posted on 08/04/2013 1:52:33 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe

This a warning to all of our members, readers, supporters, and to the general liberty movement.

Please be extremely careful with email, and do not open any attachments from anyone who you don’t know, or from any suspicious email, such as tormail. And even if it seems to be from someone you know, take the time to read the email address carefully, to see if it is from a Tormail account, or other anonymous email service. It could be someone impersonating someone you know, to trick you into opening files with child-porn on them.

No one here at Oath Keepers uses tormail or any other anonymous email service, so if you see an email purporting to be from Oath Keepers, or from anyone in leadership at Oath Keepers, from such an email service, do not open it.

There have been a string of anonymous attacks on liberty activists, all attempting to trick people into opening email attachments containing child-porn. We know of at least four such attempts within the past few weeks.

The first was when someone emailed Luke Rudkowski, Founder of We Are Change and tried to trick him into opening attached jpeg files containing child porn. Luke was able to use the “view” function of his email to see that the images were child porn and he did not open them.

Then, someone using a tormail account tried to do the same thing to Dan Johnson, Founder of People Against the NDAA (PANDA). Whoever emailed Dan Johnson pretended to be me, Stewart Rhodes, but using a Tormail account. Fortunately, Dan knew that I don’t use Tormail, and therefore he did not open the attachments. Instead, he had a computer security expert examine the files, and that expert determined that they contained child porn. You can read more about that attack, and watch a video we made about it, here.

Well, a few days later it happened again, to two other liberty activists we know. They have chosen, for the time being, to not go public about it, in the hopes that the FBI will have a better chance of catching the perp. All of us have reported these incidents to the FBI, through attorney Sue Basko.

Sue has written a very well done description of what happened, what we did to report it, and some important advice on how you can keep from being victimized by whoever is doing this. Here is an excerpt of that tutorial. Please take her advice to heart, and be very careful online.

Stewart Rhodes


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: childporn; libertymovement; oathkeepers; setup
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To: TalBlack
 photo eye4_zps7e7de299.jpg The Obamanites trying to make us all criminals.
61 posted on 08/04/2013 6:33:08 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: jiggyboy

On Eudora, there is a function titled “blah,blah,blah” which will then show the entire mass of code that precedes the email. It is more complete than what shows when using “reply”. Also, if there is a conflict in the email address that shows vs. the actual email, a prompt appears warning of this when you use “reply”.

I have also been told NOT to use “preview” because there are exploits that can download in that format.

My mail does not come directly to Eudora. It goes to my address on my ISP’s webmail and then is downloaded every 15 minutes or so to Eudora. When I have a problem with Eudora or am on another computer, I use the webmail, which labels spam as such.


62 posted on 08/04/2013 6:35:34 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Lazamataz
Good morning.

Now the NSA will not know of our true plans: Plotting TOTAL GLOBAL DOMINATION.

Why wasn't I informed? You know how I like plotting global domination.

5.56mm

63 posted on 08/04/2013 6:37:46 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: reformedliberal
Eudora

I vote the name be changed to Elvira.

64 posted on 08/04/2013 6:38:45 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: MikeSteelBe
They have chosen, for the time being, to not go public about it, in the hopes that the FBI will have a better chance of catching the perp.

They aren't going to turn in their own.

65 posted on 08/04/2013 7:25:40 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: no-to-illegals

I’ve also had that experience. The attachment is usually some form of malware. My practice now is to send a reply to the alleged sender asking if he or she actually sent the dubious email. NEEVER OPEN THE THNG OR ESPECIALLY AN ATTACHMENT WITHOUT FIRST VERIFYING IT.


66 posted on 08/04/2013 7:36:27 AM PDT by libstripper (A)
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To: MikeSteelBe

Importantly, the FOE have long used the trick of using “invisible” CP, that the user never sees but is loaded into their cache, where it will be discovered with forensic examination, and look like other cached information.

That is, it will look as though they have been surfing CP sites, then just did a “browser history scrub”, not deleting their cache.


67 posted on 08/04/2013 7:38:51 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: libstripper

yep ... have done a few time lately and made the check.


68 posted on 08/04/2013 7:39:16 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: cripplecreek
This is exactly the sort of thing I thought about when the news of government demanding password lists popped up a week or so back.

Bingo. This admin can set up anyone at a click of a mouse and there's nothing the victim could do about it. What a world we live in.

69 posted on 08/04/2013 7:42:23 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: GeronL
I've been under surveillance before, and I have to say this does sound suspicious.

Sooner or later they have to justify what they are doing.

It's not so much that they want to set you up and convict you of a crime as it is to set you up to discredit you.

That's what this sounds like, especially with the name “Oath Keepers”.

Sounds like someone has come up with the idea that the easiest way to discredit all of the “Oath Keepers” is make it appear as if “Oath Keeper” means stay silent about what they are doing and what they are doing is a kiddie porn ring.

70 posted on 08/04/2013 7:56:18 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

a probable unseen, as yet, point.


71 posted on 08/04/2013 7:59:50 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: driftdiver
I’ve worked with law enforcement doing data forensics for cases like this. The simple inadvertent viewing of these images is difficult to prosecute. Going to a website and you suddenly realize it has these pictures isn’t going to get you arrested. Not if you leave the site upon realizing what it is.

The point isn't to prosecute the target - it's to make the target prosecutable if it ever becomes politically expedient to do so.

72 posted on 08/04/2013 8:18:05 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: no-to-illegals

It’s not as if this hasn’t been done before.

In 2010 the O WH tried to discredit the TEA Party by making it appear as if the TEA Party was connected to the attempted car bombing in NYC.

The O WH started a talking points campaign about the TEA Party being ultra violent Tim McVeigh wannabes and low and behold there was a fertilizer car bomb attempt in NYC.

Since it was a fertilizer bomb the left claimed it just had to be the TEA Party because the TEA Party were a bunch of Tim McVeigh wannabes.


73 posted on 08/04/2013 8:29:56 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

lots of ruses for certain.


74 posted on 08/04/2013 8:31:53 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: IMR 4350

Kinda like the Hutaree militia. They accused them of everything under then sun but when push came to shove, the Hutaree wouldn’t plead to lesser charges and the feds were unable to prove anything and all were acquitted.

Going to court with the fact that one member owned a copy of Mein Kampf was nothing more than an attempt to discredit. Its like the idiots on the left claiming that Glenn Beck runs a nazi museum because it contains some nazi items.

A few years back there was a blow up over an Ohio politician having a photo of him in a nazi uniform. They didn’t mention the fact that he does it as part of WWII reenactments.


75 posted on 08/04/2013 8:36:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Kinda like the Hutaree militia. They accused them of everything under then sun but when push came to shove, the Hutaree wouldn’t plead to lesser charges and the feds were unable to prove anything and all were acquitted...

A few years back there was a blow up over an Ohio politician having a photo of him in a nazi uniform. They didn’t mention the fact that he does it as part of WWII reenactments.

Well done.

Another Frame-Job. This is what this guv has come down to. Well that and having citizens report on other citizens....and Zimmerman's "sins" from the day he was in his Mommy's womb.

76 posted on 08/04/2013 8:40:11 AM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: cripplecreek; null and void

Don’t get me started on OHIO


77 posted on 08/04/2013 8:40:55 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: jiggyboy
When in doubt, hit “reply” first without intending to send anything — you’ll see the real address of the sender

Or, right click the message in question then choose properties, then message source.

78 posted on 08/04/2013 8:47:08 AM PDT by South40
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To: MikeSteelBe

“They have chosen, for the time being, to not go public about it, in the hopes that the FBI will have a better chance of catching the perp.”

They’re assuming the FBI isn’t the perp or at least in cahoots with the perp?


79 posted on 08/04/2013 10:32:33 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Tell us about OHIO...


80 posted on 08/04/2013 10:41:14 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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