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82 lawmakers ask for end to ban on gay men donating blood
The Hill ^ | 08/05/13 | Ramsey Cox

Posted on 08/05/2013 12:45:42 PM PDT by fwdude

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To: fwdude

What’s to keep queers from acting butch and simply not saying they’re queer and donating anyway?


51 posted on 08/05/2013 1:07:21 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: JT Hatter
We learned the lesson of Arkansas. Then Governor Clinton was getting kickbacks from the prison blood donor program.

The Canadians were NOT pleased when they found out they were getting contaminated blood from Arkansas...

52 posted on 08/05/2013 1:08:22 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: Beagle8U

Beagle8U: “It isn’t just aids, the queers keep inventing nasty new diseases every day.”

What do you mean?!?! Are you trying to say it’s not safe to play in human excrement?


53 posted on 08/05/2013 1:09:34 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: fwdude

Let me guess... another communist block demand on the West.


54 posted on 08/05/2013 1:09:37 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: C210N

I’m wondering if these 82s have AIDS already alongside Obama.


55 posted on 08/05/2013 1:10:51 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: fwdude

plus the new Visas to same sex couples ,to bring a whole load of new/old diseases


56 posted on 08/05/2013 1:11:09 PM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Sans-Culotte: “What’s to keep queers from acting butch and simply not saying they’re queer and donating anyway?”

Because that would require lying to donate blood. This isn’t about blood. It’s about making queers feel good about what they do.


57 posted on 08/05/2013 1:12:45 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: fwdude

Here’s how the liberal ‘mind’ works.

“Why should only gay men and intravenous drug shooters die of aids? Let’s let all the normal people die of aids too!”

Wanna bet that congress has its OWN, clean supply of blood, uncontaminated by hiv?


58 posted on 08/05/2013 1:13:11 PM PDT by I want the USA back (There's no autocorrect for stupidity.)
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59 posted on 08/05/2013 1:14:04 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: fwdude
I suspect the Obama administration wants to allow homosexual men to give blood - putting millions of Americans at risk - and this letter is their cover ("congress asked us to do this") That Enzi signed it should signal the end of his senate career.
60 posted on 08/05/2013 1:15:03 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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” We learned the lesson of Arkansas. Then Governor Clinton was getting kickbacks from the prison blood donor program. “

” The prison plasma program ended in 1994, but its effects linger. More than 1,000 Canadians who received plasma contaminated by that drawn from Arkansas prisoners were infected with HIV and 20,000 with hepatitis C.”

Good catch.


61 posted on 08/05/2013 1:15:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: fwdude

This is an example of what I have argued is a major threat from government-run healthcare. The issue is a matter of medical science, not a matter of political opinion. If government runs the healthcare system, then decisions that should be made on the basis of scientific evidence will be made based on political influence and the consequences are that people with politically unpopular needs or who have little voice in the political realm will not get care while people with a voice or with politically popular needs will get care. This weakens the quality of the healthcare system.


62 posted on 08/05/2013 1:15:56 PM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: fwdude

Why stop there? Why not collect blood from plague infected rats, too?


63 posted on 08/05/2013 1:16:29 PM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: Viennacon

Put them and their families in line to be the first recipients of this blood and then let’s see how they vote.


64 posted on 08/05/2013 1:16:29 PM PDT by Appollo9919
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To: fwdude

What could possibly go wrong?

(*slaps forehead*)


65 posted on 08/05/2013 1:16:30 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Where's my pressure cooker backpack wmd ricin laced al qaeda terrorist BASSELOPE?)
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To: socal_parrot
I know blood screening has gotten better, but my mother died from Hepatitis she contracts from a blood she received after surgery. I say no,

This is important because gays have repeated infections of other diseases, like hepatitis. As you say, the screening has gotten better; but, I would really rather be safe than sorry. This is the PC culture we have let thrive in this country where the safety of the majority of people is being comprimized because Gays won't admit that their lifestyle is unhealthy. So the rest of us must be forced to comply with that fantasy.

66 posted on 08/05/2013 1:17:03 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: C210N

No doubt! I still hope somehow all 82 get some blood disease.


67 posted on 08/05/2013 1:18:19 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: CitizenUSA

When the process kicks into gear, all the tests and stuff, I will bring that up.


68 posted on 08/05/2013 1:19:54 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: fwdude

Once again politicians want to make decisions that should be left to medical professionals. I’m a 2 gallon donor. I will stop donating if they change the rules. Every one of us is at risk here.They cannot be allowed to push this on us with some damn Executive Order. Another topic for townhalls this summer. After Benghazi, IRS, NSA, Shamnesty, etc. God help us.


69 posted on 08/05/2013 1:20:24 PM PDT by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor & 2 Marines - Clinging to my Bible and my guns for dear life.)
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To: Viennacon

I was just pleased that it was only ONE commie traitor “republican” who signed on.


70 posted on 08/05/2013 1:21:34 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: JT Hatter
And don’t tell me only a few people will get contaminated and infected. One is too many.

I always liken it to continuing to play Russian Roulette, even after a few hundred chambers are added to the cylinder of the revolver.

71 posted on 08/05/2013 1:24:04 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Yes. Let’s ignore all the statistics and good public health practices. What is the endangerment of the lives of innocent men, women and children when the pride of gay men is at stake?


72 posted on 08/05/2013 1:24:40 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: fwdude; Grampa Dave; et al
"Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.)"

Now... That right there is reason enough for Liz Cheney to take the US Senate seat away from him PRONTO!!!

73 posted on 08/05/2013 1:25:44 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I pledge to the USSA & 2 the democrazy for witch it stands, a nation with liberalism & misery 4 all!)
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To: Viennacon; Grampa Dave; et al

Oh! That’s right!! I forgot Liz approves of gaydom galore!!!


74 posted on 08/05/2013 1:27:53 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I pledge to the USSA & 2 the democrazy for witch it stands, a nation with liberalism & misery 4 all!)
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To: fwdude

They’ve trying to get us all killed!!


75 posted on 08/05/2013 1:28:31 PM PDT by Studebaker Hawk (These geeks are a dime-a-dozen. I'm looking for the man with the dimes. Freddy Blassy)
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To: fwdude

They demonstrated their commitment by scheduling blood transfusions 3 months from now....


76 posted on 08/05/2013 1:29:11 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: fwdude
What ever happened to erring on the side of public safety?  So now people will have to be subject to AIDS just so some folks won't feel like they are mistreated?  Really?  


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77 posted on 08/05/2013 1:30:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: SierraWasp

He has to “out-gay” her to win, to his thinking.


78 posted on 08/05/2013 1:30:33 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

And don’t tell me only a few people will get contaminated and infected. One is too many.

I always liken it to continuing to play Russian Roulette, even after a few hundred chambers are added to the cylinder of the revolver.


It’s very much like that. They say currently that your chances of getting HIV from transfused blood is one in 1.5 million. What’s it going to be if they allow HIV infected gays to donate? One in a hundred thousand?


79 posted on 08/05/2013 1:35:11 PM PDT by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: fwdude

NO NO NO.


80 posted on 08/05/2013 1:37:09 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: fwdude

Well, there ya go! As soon as I posted that, someone reminded me that she’s “all-in” for the gay comyoonutty as well!!! Phhhht!!!


81 posted on 08/05/2013 1:38:58 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I pledge to the USSA & 2 the democrazy for witch it stands, a nation with liberalism & misery 4 all!)
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To: fwdude

Base the decision on science and public protection. Keep these idiots out of it. There was a % of infected blood for homes at one time, what is it now?


82 posted on 08/05/2013 1:41:10 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

THIS is exactly what’s wrong with “government-run” healthcare — politicians poking their noses into things they have no business being involved in.


83 posted on 08/05/2013 1:41:59 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: fwdude

Gaak! Inmates are running the asylum...


84 posted on 08/05/2013 1:45:49 PM PDT by TheDon (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out.)
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To: brownsfan

Agreed. The next American Revolution should be more like the French Revolution...


85 posted on 08/05/2013 1:47:03 PM PDT by TheDon (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out.)
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To: fwdude

Yeah, you’d expect usual suspects Portman and MurCOWski to be all aboard.


86 posted on 08/05/2013 1:48:07 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: DoughtyOne

DoughtyOne: “So now people will have to be subject to AIDS just so some folks won’t feel like they are mistreated? Really?”

In short, yes.


87 posted on 08/05/2013 1:48:27 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Viennacon

Don’t we imprison people who attempt to stick people with HIV infected needles?


88 posted on 08/05/2013 1:48:56 PM PDT by TheDon (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out.)
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To: fwdude

Ban gay men from donating blood for life.
I like the sound of logic.


89 posted on 08/05/2013 1:50:20 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: fwdude

As long as this blood is only used for these lawmakers and their families, I’m all for it.


90 posted on 08/05/2013 1:51:21 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: socal_parrot

My 40 year old brother died the same way.


91 posted on 08/05/2013 1:51:35 PM PDT by SweetCaroline (He is the Antichrist that denieth the Father and the Son. 1-John 2:22)
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To: fwdude

They have lost their f-ing minds. From infection to detection their is a window of 2 to 8 weeks. During this period a donor can test negative but is infective. Click on link for info. This info is from the San Francisco Aids Society.

http://www.sfaf.org/hiv-info/testing/hiv-test-window-periods.html

This proposal will make our blood supply more dangerous.


92 posted on 08/05/2013 1:55:06 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: JT Hatter

Like you I`m a long term donor a bit over 15 gallons

including 70 something platelet donations and will also stop

if this proposal goes through.

Surely this insane idea goes nowhere.

I would love to see the list pf radicals who signed this.


93 posted on 08/05/2013 1:56:37 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: CitizenUSA

Agreed...


94 posted on 08/05/2013 2:00:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: GraceG

I still cant donate blood because I lived in Europe in the 80s and did Somalia in the 90s.


95 posted on 08/05/2013 2:01:30 PM PDT by SwankyC (Democrats and Republicans agree, govt coercion is OK if it fits your idea of whats OK)
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To: JT Hatter

I’d be Gallon Club except I was stationed in Germany in the 1980’s and later they decided that meant I was exposed to mad cow disease, so I can’t donate anymore. I keep going back to the Bloodmobile but that stupid rule hasn’t changed.

Meanwhile the AIDS faggies have their friends in Congress pushing for their right to contaminate the rest of us.

On a side note I read an article where a man walked out of Hardees eating a sausage biscuit and was accosted by a Muslim who berated him for eating pork. The man calmly reminded the muzzie that if he ever needed a blood transfusion that the vast majority of donors to the supply are pig-eating “infidels”.

The muzzie turned sickly green & ran off shrieking “Allah has put a seal on your heart!!”


96 posted on 08/05/2013 2:03:29 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: JT Hatter

Good point. To the leftists, everything is static. They don’t see the dynamic results of implementing their insane policies.


97 posted on 08/05/2013 2:09:36 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: VanDeKoik
the whole issue is silly, because you have to admit to them your gay.

If a gay wants to give blood, they simply will lie.

This wont change anything, it's just about making them feel good.

98 posted on 08/05/2013 2:11:14 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The point is that they will have to lie to donate, just like with the other prohibited groups. Even some homosexuals still have scruples. And the fewer who donate because of these scruples, the better.


99 posted on 08/05/2013 2:13:09 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

You can donate to your own private blood bank. I would advise this.


100 posted on 08/05/2013 2:15:42 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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