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101 Years Later, Milton Friedman is Still Wrong
Policymic.com ^ | 8/1/13 | Sean McElwee

Posted on 08/06/2013 10:21:57 AM PDT by DannyTN

Wednesday was the 101st anniversary of Milton Friedman’s birth, and it will be widely celebrated among the vast number of Americans who march in Tea Parties and wear tricorner hats in public. He will be hailed by the vast number of “libertarian populists” now burgeoning within the Republican ranks. But the new “libertarian populism” is increasingly at odds with the possibility of a shared future.

Libertarian populists love markets. One of their favorite proposals is privatization: If there is a problem, they look to markets to solve it. Milton Friedman wrote, “The most important single central fact about a free market is that no exchange takes place unless both parties benefit.” The statement fails to take into account that parties can only perceive potential benefits and, in the case of poor workers, may be unable to find the optimal market exchange. But there is a deeper problem.

The problem is that markets, being amoral, are necessarily immoral. Markets are essentially utilitarian, they maximize “happiness,” and each individual is free to choose what makes him or her happy. But what happens when one man’s pleasure harms another? As E.F. Schumacher writes, “Call a thing immoral or ugly, soul-destroying or a degradation to man, a peril to the peace of the world or to the well-being of future generations: as long as you have not shown it to be ‘uneconomic’ you have not really questioned its right to exist, grow, and prosper.” That is, as long as companies can make money drilling into Canada’s tar sands, who are we to question them?

Schumacher notes the core libertarian dilemma: “The market is the institutionalization of individualism and non-responsibility. Neither buyer nor seller is responsible for anything but himself.” But as a society, we want people to be free from slavish impulses and appetites and we want them to be responsible. We raise our children to love their country, to protect their environment, to aid their community. We tell them not to steal, never to hurt another human being, and to generally live in such a way that if everyone else also lived in that way, the world would be a better place. But, as G.A. Cohen notes, “the immediate motive to productive activity in a market society is (not always but) typically some mixture of greed and fear.” That is, upon taking on their first job, we tell our children, “Throw away all that stuff we taught you; now all that matters is profit and loss."

This creates one of the contradictions of capitalism: How long can a liberal democratic society (which relies upon cooperation, mutual interdependence, and shared sacrifice) exist alongside a purely capitalistic system (which relies purely upon self-interest)? How long can markets “crowd out” all instances of social virtue before we descend entirely into chaos?

The libertarian reliance on pure self-interest is nowhere more clear than in the ideas of Ludwig von Mises, who developed Praxeology, the idea that all human action can be explained by self-interest. Milton Friedman accepts this proposition, stating in Free to Choose, “The problem of social organization is how to set up an arrangement under which greed will do the least harm, capitalism is that kind of a system.” The problem is that greed and self-interest are not the exclusive, or even primary, human motivation. We know that soldiers jump on grenades to protect other soldiers. We know that John McCain chose to spend four years in the Hanoi Hilton rather than violate the Code of Conduct for Prisoners of War. We know that Mohamed Bouazizi set himself on fire rather than face the harassment of police.

Of course, we’ve all heard the inevitable response: They’re upholding some other value, they hope for gain in a future life, etc. The problem with this response is that eventually, once you keep pressing, libertarians provide a tautology: Self-interest is whatever motivates us to act. Well, then, we are clearly really bad at defining our own self-interest. Libertarians face a double bind: Either their definition of self-interest is wrong (because people act for things other than self) or it’s tautological (because every action is self-interested). Either way, they severely confine human motivation for action.

The only way to solve these problems is to understand the individual within his or her society and that society’s mores. But libertarians have to reject the most important forms of community because these organizations — familial, local, national, religious — are not voluntary organizations, but are considered coercive. In a day and age when the rich live a life separate from the rest of us and when our use of fossil fuels endangers the lives of poor people across the globe, such an individualistic mode of thinking is not only wrong, but dangerous.

It’s important to recognize that some libertarian populists also engage in a core hypocrisy: capitalism for the poor, socialism for the rich. They want to block-grant Medicaid and cut taxes for the wealthy. They want to cut food stamps but not necessarily farm subsidies. They’ll cut the minimum wage but extend the carried-interest deduction. And they say things like, “Keep the government’s hands off of my Medicare.”

While Friedman was at least consistent enough to despise all government programs, the Tea Party wants to protect a few: the ones they benefit from. They excitedly adopt his “starve the beast” approach to government spending, but also gobble up government resources. Libertarian populism is the old supply-side garbage, as John Kenneth Galbraith noted, “that the work habits of the American people are tied irrevocably to their income, though in a curiously perverse way. The poor do not work because they have too much income; the rich do not work because they do not have enough income. You expand and revitalize the economy by giving the poor less, the rich more.” The Tea Party is selfishness embodied: “Government should help me, but not you! I’m a maker, you are a taker!” Some of us still envision a society where compassion and cooperation are valued, rather than callous competition — alas, that seems as far away as ever.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: artlaffer; demagogue; economics; freetrade; friedman; miltonfriedman; strawman
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To: DannyTN

Headline and article are nonsense.


41 posted on 08/06/2013 11:08:28 AM PDT by gogeo (I didn't leave the Republcan Party, it left me.)
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To: DannyTN
This article gets the steaming stinking load of utter crap of the day award for packing the largest number of distortions and outright lies in the smallest space.

EG when our use of fossil fuels endangers the lives of poor people across the globe

Utter garbage

42 posted on 08/06/2013 11:11:58 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: DannyTN

Libertarians believe the free market can solve most problems. But statists in both the Rat and Repub parties believe that government is the solution to everything.


43 posted on 08/06/2013 11:14:50 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: JoeTheGeorgian

Yes, freedom is the opposite of liberalism and even many RINOs.


44 posted on 08/06/2013 11:15:45 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: gogeo

Technically, the headline does make sense. Assuming, of course, that Mr. F. came up with his theories moments out of the womb....


45 posted on 08/06/2013 11:16:22 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: DannyTN

Capitalism is profitable..
Socialism drives bankruptcy..


46 posted on 08/06/2013 11:17:09 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: DannyTN

This article is a pantload.

Friedman was a genius. Not perfect, but an amazing intellect.

Tea Party? What tea party?


47 posted on 08/06/2013 11:18:27 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: DannyTN

“our use of fossil fuels endangers the lives of poor people across the globe, such an individualistic mode of thinking is not only wrong, but dangerous.”

Without fossil fuels, we’d be living in caves keeping warm sitting next to a wood fire, scrounging for roots and berries, and reading by candlelight.


48 posted on 08/06/2013 11:19:30 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: DannyTN

“In a day and age when the rich live a life separate from the rest of us and when our use of fossil fuels endangers the lives of poor people across the globe, such an individualistic mode of thinking is not only wrong, but dangerous.”

DannyTN you’re a freeper and you agree with this crap?


49 posted on 08/06/2013 11:20:06 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

He was a bright guy...not perfect.


50 posted on 08/06/2013 11:21:24 AM PDT by gogeo (I didn't leave the Republcan Party, it left me.)
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To: DannyTN

Look at the economies of Cuba, and of Chile.

Case closed.


51 posted on 08/06/2013 11:21:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Chile isn’t doing all that bad - was just there a couple of months ago. Are you sure you don’t mean Argentina? Cuba is a total mess.


52 posted on 08/06/2013 11:28:04 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: DannyTN
How long can a liberal democratic society (which relies upon cooperation, mutual interdependence, and shared sacrifice) exist alongside a purely capitalistic system (which relies purely upon self-interest)?

How long can a liberal democratic society (which relies upon cooperation FOOD, mutual interdependence RESOURCES, and shared sacrifice ECONOMIC GROWTH) exist alongside a purely capitalistic SOCIALIST system (which relies purely upon self-interest SHARED MISERY)?

I fixed it for you....

53 posted on 08/06/2013 11:30:53 AM PDT by nitzy (You can avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.)
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To: DannyTN
The problem is that markets, being amoral, are necessarily immoral.

So, by extension libtards, being amoral, are necessarily immoral. Therefore, why should anyone spend even a second considering their assertions?

54 posted on 08/06/2013 11:32:29 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: gogeo
"He was a bright guy...not perfect."

Yeah, like many/most humans.

55 posted on 08/06/2013 11:36:54 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DannyTN
The statement fails to take into account that parties can only perceive potential benefits and, in the case of poor workers, may be unable to find the optimal market exchange.

First big clue. Most people can also see deficits. Most of us can weigh perceived benefits against known risks and negative factors...otherwise, we'd all rob banks and decline to invest in government pay taxes.

And the "poor workers" are their own problem that they themselves can easily fix. If the little "get to work" switch between their belly button and backbone is allowed to be tripped by hunger, instead of being artificially blocked from operating by feeding them anyway, they'll start to develop a work ethic.

Some of us still envision a society where compassion and cooperation are valued, rather than callous competition hive — alas, that seems as far away as ever.

56 posted on 08/06/2013 11:37:50 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: DannyTN

Wow! Sean McElwee didn’t wait 101 years to be wrong. He was wrong the day he babbled out his tripe.


57 posted on 08/06/2013 11:38:35 AM PDT by hauerf
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To: xjcsa
Friedman was a Monetarists, almost invented Monetarism which is the flip side of Keynesianism and just as invidious. Like Keynesianism it calls for control of the economy by a group of "experts" in the government. Friedman's preferred tool is the money supply whereas Keynes went for government taxation and spending, monetary controls vs. fiscal controls. Both talked about free markets. Both systems are market hampering and both systems essentially warp markets and cause misallocation of resources.Friedman did advocate a generally "sound" dollar, one that did not apparently rise and fall excessively in value. However, as a government operation politics cannot be excluded and the dial gets turned only one way. There is no countersteering once things are off and running.

Neither Keynes nor Friedman understood markets. Both assumed a small group of benevolent experts could read the market signals in real time and both systems would end up making their adjustments too late and exacerbating the situation, whatever it is.

Free markets work when no outside experts have the power to fine tune them. The fine tuning of the Keynesians and the Monetarists is necessarily done with wet sandbags in place of the sensitive fingers envisioned.

58 posted on 08/06/2013 11:43:23 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: arthurus

I agree with you.

But I have a question: What are you going do to create a truly free market under a constitutional system in which our representatives have control of the monetary system, currency, taxation, and spending? Even if you can get them to get their grimy, greedy mitts off, which is hard enough, how will you possibly restrain them from deploying their “wet sandbags” when economic times get really tough? What do you recommend?


59 posted on 08/06/2013 11:58:30 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Equal Protection for the individual's unalienable right to life is not optional. It is imperative.)
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To: tanuki
“The problem is, that STATIST POWER being amoral, is essentially immoral.” There, fixed it.

Not being an economist, that was my take. Replace the term liberal economics with the term leftist economics, then scrap that, and call it fascist socialism, which is the Obama experiment, and as corrupt and immoral as it gets. The world is now under the illusion that state control, sort of a quasi fascism, has rushed in on a white horse to save us from the evil Libertarian economics, but Libertarian economics ended the moment government mandates entered the game, so to did honesty and ethics.

60 posted on 08/06/2013 11:59:38 AM PDT by pallis
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