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Don't give us your poor, tired excuses; Reform immigration now
Lexington Herald Leader ^ | Aug 17,2013 | Jon Larson

Posted on 08/17/2013 6:54:07 AM PDT by moonshinner_09

Border security" is a bogus holdup for immigration reform. Let us prevent this worthy legislation from becoming a giant rip-off benefitting the military-intelligence industry. Millions of people in this country have paid a deplorable price for surreptitious border passage. So-called "coyotes" have extracted up to $10,000 per person per trip; yet these victims have been subjected to mass murders, tortures, locked vans abandoned in deserts, kidnappings and rape. Why does anyone assume that coyotes act independently of the heavily armed cartels in their nearly sovereign territories?One proposed immigration strategy suggests we should punish the victims by imposing a bureaucratic maze that demeans low-wage earners in their quest for a path to citizenship (likely to result in denying ultimate citizenship to about half of the 11 million). Already these "America seekers" have historical reasons to doubt the decency of our immigration laws.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigration; ky; noamnesty4illegals; reform
Our country's aging population could benefit from younger, family-oriented, procreative, hard-working, Christian immigrants.

I am starting to notice in many illegal immigration debates,so many times to see.......younger, family-oriented, procreative, hard-working, Christian illegal immigrants..Are we in America having a shortage of young kids who in time will be younger, family-oriented, procreative, hard-working, Christian Americans ? How many illegals are claiming to be hard-working, Christians at the same are using untrue fake or stolen documents ? Driving cars without licenses/insurance..yet they are , family-oriented, procreative, hard-working, Christian illegal immigrants.

What do illegals expect when they hire high risk Mexixan drug cartels to act as their travel agency and relocate the illegals into America cites across the nation ? They get what they paid for.

1 posted on 08/17/2013 6:54:07 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Why not “Don’t give us your poor, tired excuses; enforce the law now”?


2 posted on 08/17/2013 6:56:28 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: RightGeek

I’m not that bright anymore. Between the dementia and alzheimers kicking in, did I read correctly that the illegal aliens should be granted amnesty and then citizenship because they might have been mistreated by the people who helped get them into this country illegally?

In an effort to overcome this injustice, may I suggest that these illegal aliens should be treated fairly and humanely on their trip back to their home country.


3 posted on 08/17/2013 7:03:11 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: RightGeek

Ah, the “law” always loves little bastards.


4 posted on 08/17/2013 7:03:36 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: RightGeek

I love it when some far from the border area decides what amount of immigration reform we need. How about this, when we have “reform”, which is a euphanism for the importation of more problems and social ills, we immediately transport the newly arrived into any state whose capitol is north of say 38 degrees North lattitude and with a democrat governor (sorry cal).


5 posted on 08/17/2013 7:10:45 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: RightGeek

Please note that the average illegal alien can’t speak our language or read . They are immediately on Transfer payments and the reason this paper wants them with that “family oriented” crap is to get more VOTES for socialism.27%of the federal prison population are illegal aliens !!
“The percentage of all federal prisoners who are criminal aliens has remained the same over the last 3 years—about 27 percent “
http://immigration.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000783

“Family oriented Christiansn” my BUTT.


6 posted on 08/17/2013 7:11:35 AM PDT by SADMILLIE (r)
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To: moonshinner_09

Larson’s article is a crap load of ideological idyllic bullshit of the highest order. His main first presented concern is the amount of money Mexicans are forced to pay Coyotes to get here. He intersperses that with an equal pantload of gobblygook stuff about we need honest Christians, blah blah blah. He then ‘backs’ that up with an overly broad lie (irresponsibly citing a CBO study hamstrung by Democrat ordered precepts) to say these illegals are worth far more in taxes than what they cost.

HORSESHIT!

The uneducated, illiterate (often in their own tongue), illegal invaders cost vastly more than we’ll ever recover.

They refuse to assimilate; they bring heretofore extinct diseases and a few that are near impossible to treat, crime (drunkenness, rape, robbery, murder)often several times over for a lot of them; they pay little in taxes (each who has a W-2 job (fraudulently) claims the maximum number of exemptions that the bite on their check is NIL - and they never file; they INUNDATE our schools with their little anchor babies requiring working taxpaying Americans to ‘teach’ them in their own frigging language; they breed citizen malcontents and Reconquistadors by the millions; and they vote Democrat - even when they are not allowed to.

In short, these Mexicans and other world Hispanics (the largest by far invaders) are a national blight on this country. If they stay and are allowed to become legal, they will destroy this country completely. They aren’t Christian, they are here to steal everything we have, and Democrats and RINOS are hell-bent on artificially changing our ‘melting pot’ history into one of abject devastation.


7 posted on 08/17/2013 7:11:42 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: moonshinner_09
Border security" is a bogus holdup for immigration reform.

This statement fails the common sense sanity check. Border security was promised in 1986. The people simply want that promise by our lawmakers to be kept. We did not forget. The reason we have 20 million more illegal aliens in this country is because that promise to secure our borders was NOT kept.

Secure our borders as promised in 1986, please! An orderly, fair, and compassionate immigration reform will follow. Plug the leak before you repair the ship of state.

8 posted on 08/17/2013 7:17:38 AM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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Our country's aging population could benefit from younger, family-oriented, procreative, hard-working, Christian immigrants.

Politicians and the media have destroyed morality in this country, so now we should rely on criminals who don't know any better to make babies.

What could possibly go wrong?

9 posted on 08/17/2013 7:22:05 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: moonshinner_09

We are a nation of laws - or at least we used to be - and that is what made us the greatest nation on Earth.

Now we’re supposed to look the other way and turn our nation into Northern Mexico, and also turn our political system into a one party socialist state?

No.


10 posted on 08/17/2013 7:23:52 AM PDT by datura (When Democracy Fails, Vote From the Rooftops.)
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To: moonshinner_09

It’s curious that America is most hated among nations (along with Israel) but yet everybody wants to come here.


11 posted on 08/17/2013 7:24:04 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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How many illegals are claiming to be hard-working, Christians at the same are using untrue fake or stolen documents ?

Fraud is not a family value, indeed.

12 posted on 08/17/2013 7:34:25 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Protect and Defend the Constitution!!!!! NOW!


13 posted on 08/17/2013 7:52:37 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: moonshinner_09
Millions of people in this country have paid a deplorable price for surreptitious border passage.

Then they shouldn't have passed the border surreptitiously.

14 posted on 08/17/2013 8:03:57 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: moonshinner_09
A. I don't mind people coming here legally to do honest work.
B. I do mind people coming here illegally to live on welfare, run with gangs, run drugs and other crimes.

Where ever do politicians get the notion that people from category B will instantly become outstanding A types if we legalize them?

15 posted on 08/17/2013 8:08:11 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: moonshinner_09

Immigration reform is the leftist suicide pact for our American republic. Citizens, do not sign on, tell your Senators and Congressman to vote no, do nothing and just enforce the present laws on illegals. immigrants and border control.


16 posted on 08/17/2013 8:25:18 AM PDT by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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To: DuncanWaring

Holy sh*t. This idiot is arguing for open borders.


17 posted on 08/17/2013 11:59:58 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: moonshinner_09

It takes a lot of nerve to refuse to secure the border, and then use that as proof that we need to open the border.

And it takes a lot of nerve to tell generations of Americans that the world is overpopulated, and then when they cut their birth rate tell them we have to bring in illegals because we have a labor shortage.

And it takes a lot of nerve to say we have a labor shortage and have to legalize 20 million illegals while unemployment is at a historic high and almost every family in America has family members out of work.

Secure the border. Enforce the law. Let the chips fall.


18 posted on 08/17/2013 12:03:20 PM PDT by marron
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To: Cyropaedia

Unfortunately, he’s got lots of company.


19 posted on 08/17/2013 12:33:41 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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