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Consensus in Egypt (Mark Steyn)
National Review ^ | August 18, 2013 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 08/18/2013 6:38:06 PM PDT by nuconvert

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For the same reason, the Gulf monarchies, having weathered the immediate storms of the Arab spring and understanding the longer-term threat the Brotherhood represents, have supplanted Washington as Cairo’s principal paymasters: The $1.5 billion subvention to Egypt was always a drop in the great sucking maw of the US Treasury; compared to what the Saudis and the Emirs are ponying up, it’s looking less and less consequential from the Nile end, too.

Out in the wider world, Putin figures there’s a regional power play to be made, and that Moscow can be back in Cairo in a big way for the first time in four decades.

All these parties are pursuing their strategic interest. Does the United States have such a thing anymore? Not so’s you’d notice.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: egypt; marksteyn; mb; muslimbrotherhood; obama; steyn

1 posted on 08/18/2013 6:38:07 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
Whatever emerges in Cairo, it will be post-AMerican.

Whatever emerges anywhere will be post-American. Obama has reduced our "foreign policy" to a bizarre combination of trying to push homosexuality on every society that has any contact with us, while at the same time trying to support or at least prevent any criticism of radical Islam, both abroad and at home.

How could any country take us seriously? Add to that the fact that he is stripping all the firepower away from our military, turning our fighting corps into something that resembles the San Francisco Ballet, and tearing apart the internal fabric of the US with his cultivation of black grievance politics, and I'm sure most other countries realize that we have about breathed our last and are no threat to anybody anymore.

2 posted on 08/18/2013 7:04:31 PM PDT by livius
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To: berdie

later


3 posted on 08/18/2013 7:12:02 PM PDT by berdie
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To: livius

If the GOP doesn’t nominate a real strong contender with real ideas on how to fix things, we’re going to be looking at another dem in the White House in 2016 and that really will be the end.


4 posted on 08/18/2013 7:15:04 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
Out in the wider world, Putin figures there’s a regional power play to be made, and that Moscow can be back in Cairo in a big way for the first time in four decades.

While our effeminate Rodeo Clown in Chief is out playing golf.

5 posted on 08/18/2013 7:30:44 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: nuconvert

Worse- I think we are looking at a Dem takeover of the House and retention of the Senate in 2014. The Republicans are doing a very bad job and are ending up supporting everything the kenyan wants, just not so fast. If the GOP wants the same things as the Democrats but insists on being johnny-vome-lately to the party, the people who vote will vote for the Democrats.The ones who would be the base for real conservatives will play golf and watch football. Voting is so useless now. Vote for the really great sounding Conservative Tea Party candidates and that all ends as soon as they are not candidates any more. Most of them become interchangeable Washington thieves. Well there is Rand Paul and Ted Cruz and well three or four good officeholders out of the many good elected candidates is not a useful average. People get less excited when a candidate sounds just like Cruz now. The chances he will still sound like that after his election are what? one in four? When the majority of the guys we elect immediately go over to the Washington Party then the government is beyond affecting by even large majorities.


6 posted on 08/18/2013 7:31:06 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: nuconvert
If the GOP doesn’t nominate a real strong contender with real ideas on how to fix things, we’re going to be looking at another dem in the White House in 2016 and that really will be the end.

That's the problem isn't it? For several years the GOP has refused to give us a legitimate alternative. Even W, who barely won over two clowns, was a Big Government, ruling class Republican.

7 posted on 08/18/2013 7:33:21 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: nuconvert
All these parties are pursuing their strategic interest. Does the United States have such a thing anymore?

Sure we do. Knocking over governments in favor of Muslim Brotherhood, marching in Gay Pride parades, and running guns to Al Qaeda and the Drug Cartels.

Its only unrecognizable to people who haven't figured out that we've switched sides on literally everything.

8 posted on 08/18/2013 7:34:43 PM PDT by marron
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To: JLS

Steyn ping!


9 posted on 08/18/2013 7:39:52 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping Slings and Arrows.


10 posted on 08/18/2013 10:09:08 PM PDT by JLS
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To: marron

Obama HAS “Fundamentally Changed America”.


11 posted on 08/19/2013 1:20:49 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: marron

Obama HAS “Fundamentally Changed America”.


12 posted on 08/19/2013 1:20:53 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: nuconvert

It’s Springtime for OBOZO!


13 posted on 08/19/2013 3:53:52 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: JLS

Thank you for the ping.

Steyn’s musings are nothing new. Who has not realized the weakness, narcissism, ignorance, homosexuality, betrayal, laziness,
pettiness, vindictiveness, and just plain evil of the face of our country, O’Blama, the world dictator and head of the NWO.

[laughs at The Won-derfulness]

Since O’Blama is a weak sister, America appears weak and vulnerable, and our enemies will take advantage.

And why not?


14 posted on 08/19/2013 6:48:55 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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In the past 48 hours alone, the savage Muslim Brotherhood torched some 57 Egyptian churches and Christian businesses. Obama ignored the bloodbath and spent the crisis dining, golfing, partying, and vacationing in exclusive Martha’s Vineyard on our dime.

And we heard nary a discouraging word from the self-styled "defenders of the oppressed"---Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson---who were in high dungeon when a southern Black church was torched.

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Clearly, Obama is an enemy of the American people and a traitor to our time-honored Constitution that has served our country well.

Torched churches are on his hands----as he golfed, dined and partied on our tax dollars.

Obama is a reprobate and criminal on so many levels, it is hard to pinpoint one area. The mess in Egypt is directly linked to 0bama, who not only brought the downfall of President Mubarak, but will also cause the deaths of many more Egyptians.

He's a self-serving psychopathic conman---Madoff with an Oval Office---incapable of shame. Watch him---it's always about him---to get that feel-good moment, then he's off to something else.

He could conceivably be forcibly removed from office---or at the very least----we, the people, should issue a restraining order to stop the chaos he is inflictting on our nation.

15 posted on 08/19/2013 5:02:08 PM PDT by Liz
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In the past 48 hours alone, the savage Muslim Brotherhood torched some 57 Egyptian churches and Christian businesses. Obama ignored the bloodbath and spent the crisis dining, golfing, partying, and vacationing in exclusive Martha’s Vineyard on our dime.

And we heard nary a discouraging word from the self-styled "defenders of the oppressed"---Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson---who were in high dungeon when a southern Black church was torched.

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Clearly, Obama is an enemy of the American people and a traitor to our time-honored Constitution that has served our country well.

Torched churches are on his hands----as he golfed, dined and partied on our tax dollars.

Obama is a reprobate and criminal on so many levels, it is hard to pinpoint one area. The mess in Egypt is directly linked to 0bama, who not only brought the downfall of President Mubarak, but will also cause the deaths of many more Egyptians.

He's a self-serving psychopathic conman---Madoff with an Oval Office---incapable of shame. Watch him---it's always about him---to get that feel-good moment, then he's off to something else.

He could conceivably be forcibly removed from office---or at the very least----we, the people, should issue a restraining order to stop the chaos he is inflictting on our nation.

16 posted on 08/19/2013 5:04:36 PM PDT by Liz
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Appears Egyptian Gen al-Sisi is one of the few defending Christians---al-Sisi has vowed to rebuild their churches. Russian Pres Putin has also weighed in---decrying the Christian slaughter by Muzzies. The unabated slaughter of Syrian Christians continues as well---conducted by the fanatical Muslims----the word is Muzzies want Assad out b/c he accepts Christians. Of course, Obama is on the wrong side in Syria....arming the Muzzies

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DATELINE EGYPT Gen Al-Sisi would not take the call Obama made from MV---signaling the General's all-out determination not to let this admin interfere in his plans to drive the Muslim Brotherhood out of Egyptian politics.

NOTE: Gen Al-Sisi, 58, received a masters degree from the U.S. War College in Carlisle, Pa, in 2006.

True to his word, after Wed's bloodbath, Gen al-Sisi drove out Muslims from the mosque where they had gathered to ID their dead---Al-Sisi then confiscated the Muzzie bodies. Key Muslims were also hunted down---and a Muslim protest march had to be cancelled b/c military in tanks were stationed along the way.

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The military's vow to rebuild the long list of Christian churches torched by the Muslim Brotherhood will certainly gain the support of the American people....but there is NO WAY Obombo will turn against his pals----Morsi & his Muzzie Brothers. We are saddled w/ hater will never be one of US, he will always be one of Them.

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MILITARY.COM EXCERPT---US Pentagon officials declined to give specifics on conversations between DOD's Chuck Hagel and Egyptian Gen al-Sisi, but chief Pentagon spokesman George Little said that "US officials at all levels have made it clear that we support the democratic process in Egypt and that we hope that this period of tension can be resolved in a peaceful manner and that violence can be avoided." "We don't support any single party or group," Little said. "We believe that this needs to be resolved through political means."

Although the officials would not discuss the specifics of the military- to-military talks, the U.S. would need Gen al-Sisi's approval to move through Egyptian air space if Washington decided to send Marines to aid in the evacuation of U.S. personnel.

About 550 Marines and their tilt-rotor MV-22 Osprey aircraft are at bases in Spain and Italy on standby if they are needed. A Navy Amphibious Ready Group with 4,000 Marines and sailors aboard, led by the helicopter assault ship Kearsarge, was also in the region following completion of the Eager Lion training exercises in Jordan. © Copyright 2013 Military.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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AIN'T KARMA A *ITCH? S-o-o-o...... the helicopter assault ship Kearsarge, IS in the region. We were lied to----we were told it was not available to help endangered Americans in Benghazi.

17 posted on 08/19/2013 5:05:45 PM PDT by Liz
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