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Canada-born Ted Cruz became a citizen of that country as well as U.S.
Dallas Morning News ^ | 08/18/2013 | TODD J. GILLMAN

Posted on 08/19/2013 6:15:14 AM PDT by celmak

WASHINGTON — Born in Canada to an American mother, Ted Cruz became an instant U.S. citizen. But under Canadian law, he also became a citizen of that country the moment he was born.

Unless the Texas Republican senator formally renounces that citizenship, he will remain a citizen of both countries, legal experts say.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cruz; election; president
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To: celmak

Generally for a male, the dual-citizenship issue goes away when he registers with the US Selective Service at 18.

Assuming Ted Cruz did that, he renounced his Canadian citizenship when he registered for the US draft.

Now, all he needs to do is produce a copy of his SSS card and the issues goes away.


41 posted on 08/19/2013 8:26:12 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: servantboy777

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.


42 posted on 08/19/2013 8:27:53 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2

The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause.


43 posted on 08/19/2013 8:30:02 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2

Well, they ALL work in the US so they must have SS numbers.
This is how it was for them, for you apparently its different.


44 posted on 08/19/2013 8:31:25 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Cyclone59

Is not Obama a citizen of Indonesia as well?


45 posted on 08/19/2013 8:32:52 AM PDT by Texas Patriot61 (Gun control is being able to hit your target.)
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To: Marcella

Your grandson will need a U.S. certificate of citzenship in order to obtain a SS#. On that certificate it states that he has renounced all other citizenships. I know because I have one as I was born in Canada.


46 posted on 08/19/2013 8:33:20 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: svcw

In order to obtain the SS# they had to produce their U.S. certificate of citizenship. This is how I and your relatives obtained their SS#. For some reason my Canadian birh certificate was of no use at the SS office.


47 posted on 08/19/2013 8:37:27 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: svcw

I kept saying this - have a friend who was born in Canada to American parents, and both she and her grown children (who have never been there) have dual citizenship.


48 posted on 08/19/2013 8:43:56 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: outpostinmass2

Ok
They have never had an issue, they were dual citizens from birth, they all work so therefore have SS numbers.
Only one has given up their Canadian citizenship because they joined the Air Force and even that was not required it was something she did.


49 posted on 08/19/2013 8:44:53 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: SeekAndFind

And this is not the long form, this is just an indication that a certificate is on file. The real birth certificate has name of physician, baby’s weight, time of birth.


50 posted on 08/19/2013 8:48:51 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: svcw

I am not denying what you are saying. I am saying is that they have a certificate of u.s. citizenship. Ask to take a look at that and read it. Also in a previous link I have put forth the U.S. policy on dual citizenship.


51 posted on 08/19/2013 8:50:09 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2
outpostinmass2 said: "Your grandson will need a U.S. certificate of citzenship in order to obtain a SS#. On that certificate it states that he has renounced all other citizenships."

That comes as a surprise to me. My infant grandson has dual nationality with Great Britain and has no competency to renounce anything. I'll check with his mother, but I would be very surprised to find that he lacks a social security number since he has a U.S. passport.

52 posted on 08/19/2013 8:57:44 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: outpostinmass2

“Your grandson will need a U.S. certificate of citzenship in order to obtain a SS#.”

He has an American Passport that certifies him as an American citizen. When he comes to this country, he gets in the American immigration/customs line.

I’m sure Cruz has an SS number and he is a dual citizen by his own admission and supplying his birth certificate.


53 posted on 08/19/2013 8:59:36 AM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: iontheball
Note that Cruz produced the certificate even though it is an admission against interest and disqualifies him from being President.

It does not disqualify him for president. He is a natural born citizen, nothing in the constitution forbids being born in another country. He was an American citizen at birth, therefore a natural born citizen, which is what the term means: A person born into citizenship, which Cruz was.

54 posted on 08/19/2013 8:59:41 AM PDT by calex59
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To: William Tell

He probably has a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen (CRBA, or Form FS-240)

My parents did not apply for U.S. citizenship for me until we moved to Boston, two years after my birth. But your grandson has to have the CRB or FS-240.


55 posted on 08/19/2013 9:03:50 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Marcella

http://travel.state.gov/law/family_issues/birth/birth_593.html

He most likely has a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen (CRBA, or Form FS-240)


56 posted on 08/19/2013 9:05:33 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2
outpostinmass2 said: "He probably has a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen (CRBA, or Form FS-240)"

You are probably correct as I do know that she reported the birth and took steps to preserve his U.S. citizenship.

But as I pointed out, there was no expectation that I am aware of that he give up his British citizenship. He has dual citizenship.

His mother was upset with me when I pointed out the downside, as I see it, that he can never be President of the U.S. She disagrees and sees no problem with Barack being POTUS. Some people just seem ignorant of what our Founders feared; a President with divided loyalties.

These same people think it ridiculous to consider the Second Amendment as an antidote to government tyranny. They completely miss the point of the Battles of Lexington and Concord.

57 posted on 08/19/2013 10:17:05 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell

I always was told that I was inelligible to P.O.T.U.S. because of my birth in Canada. Technically I have dual citizenship although the U.S. does not actively recognize it.


58 posted on 08/20/2013 5:54:43 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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