Posted on 08/20/2013 7:45:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Edited on 08/20/2013 7:48:00 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Texas Senator Ted Cruz, mentioned as a possible candidate for the Republican nomination for president in 2016, released his birth certificate on Monday, ostensibly to prove that he is eligible to run for the office.
Sen. Ted Cruz, a Texas Republican whose recent travel has fueled speculation he may run for president in 2016, has released his birth certificate, showing that he was born in Canada to an American mother, the Dallas Morning News said on Monday.
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WHAT no visual Parody Yet?
I shall get right on that!
I am trying to get my head around this.
If Obama was born in Kenya with a Kenyan father and U.S. mother and is not considered a natural born citizen, how is that different from Cruz being born in Canada with a Cuban father and U.S. mother?
RE: If Obama was born in Kenya with a Kenyan father and U.S. mother and is not considered a natural born citizen
1) Where Obama was born is a matter of dispute. He insists he was born in Hawaii and was able to present the Long Form of the Birth Certificate from the State of Hawaii to prove it.
Of course many people still claim it is a forged document.
2) Obama’s mother IS American.
3) Obama’s birth father IS Kenyan.
Whether that qualifies him to be natural born or not is a matter of debate.
From what I’ve read on FR, Obama’s Mother was not a U.S. Citizen at the time of his birth. Something about her not retaining a five year Residency I believe.
I think it’s because his mother Stanley Ann was under some legal age requirement.
Heritage Foundation has already made the case in its handy Guide to the Constitution that the child of a U.S. citizen is considered by most constitutional commentators to be eligible for the presidency, regardless of where they were born.
So now the Birther arguement is that it doesn’t matter where he was born, or “whose his daddy?” but if his mother was a U.S. citizen?
By the way, after all this time, this is the first time I have heard that the problem was his mothers citizenship.
Is the argument shifting now because we want Cruz to qualify????
I want a conservative as much as anyone, but I thought the argument on the “natural born citizen” qualification to be President was both parents U.S. citizens and born on U.S. soil.
Cruz was an American citizen from birth according to the law on his birthdate. The crucial part was his mother was American and had lived as an adult for the required number of years in the US before his birth.
The President’s mother had not met this requirement, so his citizenship was British, via Kenya which was not then independent. He later became a citizen of Indonesia (required for Indonesian adoptions).
He claims he was always American. Whether he was, or whether he ever claimed foreign citizenship as an adult, are matters for which relevant documents are unavailable or otherwise compromised.
Will anyone with enough authority ever bell the cat? I don’t think so. I think he began his presidency with a lie and, having been given a pass on that, continues everyday to multiply his lawlessness.
No wonder “Birthers” are considered crazy. There is no consistent arguement. Now his mother who was born in Wichita, Kansas is not a U.S. citizen because she was only 20 at the time of his birth, and so did not have the requisite 5 years’ of residency in the U.S. after turning 16 years old to have been able to transmit her citizenship to BHO IF he had been born abroad.
I have seen nothing in my admittedly brief exploration of this issue that said that one loses U.S. citizen status and have to establish 5 years of residency in the U.S. before you can have a kid outside of the U.S.
By the way, I am not getting on your case, I appreciate your effort to inform me.
“The crucial part was his mother was American and had lived as an adult for the required number of years in the US before his birth.”
So what we are saying is that a baby born to U.S. citizens under the age of 21 on foreign soil are not U.S. citizens??
Ted Cruz should start using Obamatollah’s STOLEN SSN.
What could they do? Drag him into court and explain how this ‘042’ prefix CT SSN belongs to Soetoro from Hawaii?
We’d never hear another peep about Cruz being eligible.
“No wonder “Birthers” are considered crazy. ... By the way, I’m not getting on your case.”
Hey, that’s OK Gadsden.
Those of us who consider Obama to be a pure fraud have gotten used to being questioned and called bad names.
But here on FR, Zero’s apologists usually skip the insults.
It’s actually worse for Cruz because he has admitted to being born in Canada to a non-citizen father.
Obama has not admitted to being born in Kenya and it has not yet been proven he was. But he has admitted to having a non-citizen father.
Here’s what we should do with Cruz amongst myriad other things:
1. Elect a conservative Senate in 2014
2. Sack Boehner now and elect more conservatives to the House in 2014
3. Elect a conservative President in 2016
4. Expand the Supreme Court to 11 justices, appoint Cruz and Demint as supreme court justices with ***Cruz as Chief Justice***, or in lieu of the preceding, accept the resignations of Roberts, Kennedy, Sotomayor, Breyer, Kagan and Ginsberg.
I wonder if Ted’s people can send over his long form birth certificate to Sheriff Joe’s Cold Case Posse and get it forensically analyzed.
I like Cruz, but I don't think he is the “one and only” and I don't want “baggage” that will distract from the message.
I can't print what I think of Obama.
I am still a Palin die hard. My personal belief is that she may have had an affair and to protect Todd and his image, she withdrew. I don't care if she bonked his partner, I care that the Democrats are bonking me daily.
I still don't see anyone on the horizon that terrifies the progressives like she does....and that says it all.
While I will be active and work for candidates, etc. In my heart of hearts America is done or we go to the mattresses.
Wasn’t Obama’s mother underage or 16 or something. I read that parent age plays a roll.
This is the first time I have ever heard anyone claim she wasn’t a citizen. I have heard that she wasn’t old enough to pass natural born citizen status if he wasn’t born in the USA.
The residency is only relevant if Obama was not born on US soil. Someone would have to prove that he was born in Kenya or elsewhere.
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