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Rubio is talking less about immigration these days
yahoo news (ap) ^ | Aug 20, 2013 | By MICHAEL J. MISHAK

Posted on 08/20/2013 12:53:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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Reality catching up to RINO Rubio?
1 posted on 08/20/2013 12:53:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Too late cannot un-ring the bell.


2 posted on 08/20/2013 12:54:47 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Jim Robinson

Too late Rubio — enough folks woke up to you.

Take a hike.


3 posted on 08/20/2013 12:57:16 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Jim Robinson

sorry, too late, the mask has been exposed.


4 posted on 08/20/2013 12:57:38 PM PDT by Finatic (I ran out of change and have given up on hope. FUBO, I am so sick of your sorry a$$ you effin punk)
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To: Jim Robinson

I will NEVER forget Rubio’s embrace of amnesty. And I will NEVER forgive him for it—no matter how much and strongly he shifts into a “see, I’m really a conservative” poseur mode.

I think few of us will be fooled again by him.


5 posted on 08/20/2013 1:00:05 PM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: Jim Robinson

“that he’s simply giving the U.S. House its own space to tackle immigration”

And THAT SHOULD have been his response to the enticements of that snake in the garden of Eden Juan McCain and his little pansey Mini-Me Graham when they FIRST approached him.

He will have a hard time living this down unless he clearly aannounces he was wrong - something he has not yet done.


6 posted on 08/20/2013 1:00:32 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: Jim Robinson

If he had any balls he would answer the question honestly. His big money donors told him they wanted amnesty, and Schumer and McCain assured him the bulk of his constituents would get over their anger enough to vote for him in the next election. That, and he could expect an influx of campaign donations from the big money donors, enough to give him a substantial advantage over a challenger.


7 posted on 08/20/2013 1:01:02 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Yogafist

politicians are never honest.

Nothing in politics is honest.


8 posted on 08/20/2013 1:02:36 PM PDT by GeronL
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FReepathon
Day 51.

Please donate today.

9 posted on 08/20/2013 1:03:57 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: GeronL

There you go, smudging my rose colored glasses. LOL


10 posted on 08/20/2013 1:06:38 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Jim Robinson

I suspect his bribes, er, campaign donations haven’t dried up.

If the big money is still there, he’ll be headed nowhere.


11 posted on 08/20/2013 1:07:05 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: Jim Robinson

Marco should’ve taken a lesson from Juan McCain.


12 posted on 08/20/2013 1:08:11 PM PDT by moovova
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To: F15Eagle

I saw through “Ricky Ricardo Junior’’ here from day one. Sorry, but it’s clanish type of mentality for Hispanics’ race first America later.


13 posted on 08/20/2013 1:08:50 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: GeronL

“An honest statesman doesn’t fear an armed populace’’.- Thomas Jefferson. No wonder the majority of these guys are trying to eliminate the 2nd. Amendment.


14 posted on 08/20/2013 1:10:50 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Don’t forget, do get truthful responses from Rubio, you need to ask your questions in Spanish and you need to insist that Rubio answer in Spanish.


15 posted on 08/20/2013 1:12:07 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender

do = to


16 posted on 08/20/2013 1:12:37 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Jim Robinson

Maybe he should start off his townhall meetings singing “Mississippi Girl”.

It’s what the flaming liberal country Singer Faith Hill did when she decided because she was a “star” she could tell us all what we should think about social issues. It was written to try to quell the backlash she got from her comments.


17 posted on 08/20/2013 1:16:38 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Yogafist
Schumer and McCain assured him the bulk of his constituents would get over their anger

Bingo! McCan't and Grahamnesty used him for their purposes and I'm sure enjoyed discrediting a Tea Party favorite in the process. Rubio, however intelligent he may be, showed lack of common sense in getting suckered in by this.

18 posted on 08/20/2013 1:21:48 PM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: Jim Robinson

Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad

-or at least they fill them with hubris

One cannot contemplate the tragic fall of Marco Rubio from the heights without a real feeling of sadness for what might have been. He was a man of extraordinary gifts who committed two major sins, one forgivable and one unforgivable.

He committed the forgivable sin of bad timing. His defection could not have come at a worse time because it put him not just on the wrong side of the issue of immigration but on the wrong side of the ledger. The party is in the process of purification and it is looking for leaders whom they can trust for the very survival of the movement and of the nation. At a time when the party perceives John Boehner and Mitch McConnell to be selling us out on the issues of Obamacare and immigration, Marco Rubio's betrayal comes at a time when conservatives are marking their paladins to be either with us or with the enemy. Rubio sold out at a time when conservatives are looking to clean house and are in no mood to forgive.

Rubio committed an unforgivable sin far worse than bad timing. Rubio betrayed that he would risk the entire future of conservatism in America in order to advance his career. We conservatives equate the future the conservative movement with the future of the nation. Rubio consciously put the nation at risk for personal gain. The issue of immigration is an existential importance for conservatism and for the Republic. Rubio would cost us our sovereignty, our economic future, and any hope for preserving sanity in the polling booths for at least a generation. By the time America recovers from the immigration flood consciously created by the Democrat party to stack election demographics for generations, there might well be no grand American experiment to salvage. The issue of immigration is just that serious.

Rubio has aligned himself with the elitists and against conservatives. He has done so at the worst time. In doing so he risks everything. We simply can no longer tolerate self dealing politicians who will sell us out. Rubio can never, ever be trusted.


19 posted on 08/20/2013 1:22:47 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Jim Robinson

A done bun can’t be undone Tricky Ricky.
But keep ‘splainin’ what you really meant .....


20 posted on 08/20/2013 1:25:32 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am thinking that a more appropriate headline might be:

“Rubio having trouble scraping immigration reform off his shoe”


21 posted on 08/20/2013 1:31:03 PM PDT by nesnah
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To: nathanbedford

I suspect that Rubio bought into the idea that in order for Republicans to win elections, they had to court the Hispanic vote. Right after Romney lost - this was the battle cry from the GOPe. Did they really believe this or was it a ploy to satisfy their big donors and LaRaza? Let’s not forget this despicable group favors John McCain.

I believe that Rubio got hood winked by those who have been in the Senate much longer and are snakes in the grass - but for him to jump on board with Chuckie Schumer showed us that he isn’t ready for prime time.

Rubio seems like an intelligent guy - yet failed to do his homework on this issue. He failed to check the pulse of the American people, instead relying on those who didn’t have his best interests at heart. He possibly believed this was a winning issue for him for 2016. FAIL!!!


22 posted on 08/20/2013 1:34:29 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Jim Robinson
The GOP in Florida is corrupt, Rubio is a product of that system. It's money first with the whole lot. Jim Greer former State Gop chair, embezzlement, then only 18 months in prision... Rubio was right in the mix. I understand he paid of his student loans with a State GOP credit card.
23 posted on 08/20/2013 1:48:08 PM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I heard Hannity saying Rubio is a Conservative! Rubio killed that horse when he advocated amnesty.


24 posted on 08/20/2013 1:48:25 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Catsrus
I recall the very first vanity I wrote some years ago entitled, This Time It Really Is George Bush's Fault for which I was roundly excoriated because the thesis was that George Bush was selling us out on immigration.

I don't think there are very many FReepers today that would dispute that thesis. His record on immigration is not much worse than Obama's. But I've always taken the view with George Bush that even though his head is empty his heart is white and as that applies to immigration I think he was prompted by the highest of motives. He abhors racism, he was raised in Texas by a Mexican nanny, his nephew is Mexican-American. In short I think George Bush really believed that by failing to vigorously enforce those laws he was doing the right thing for his country.

I cannot honestly say that Marco Rubio is not similarly and nobly motivated. He is after all a Cuban-American. But my objection goes to the idea of betrayal. We hire our representatives to be our paladins and we entrust them with pursuing our interests not to sell them out to the other side. Whether Rubio thought he was portraying himself as a statesman, whether he thought he was banking the Latino vote for 2016, or whether he simply thought he was doing the right thing, I cannot say but I can say that he betrayed the conservatives who sent him to Washington.

We have entered an age when the country is at stake and we conservatives can no longer tolerate betrayal. The Mitch McConnells and the John Boehners are the figureheads but they are replicated up and down the line in the Republican ranks. Rubio's betrayal was all the more painful because his fall from grace was so dramatic and so steep and the damage is so grave.


25 posted on 08/20/2013 1:50:07 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

bump


26 posted on 08/20/2013 1:52:59 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Catsrus

I still think this was a setup. Rubio was going to be a Tea Party favorite. Clean, hispanic, intelligent, he was everything the Tea Party wanted and everything the GOPe hated. The 2016 Presidential candidate that not even Hillary could beat.

Then the GOPe made him an offer he couldnt refuse. Come along with us and not only will you be the 2016 candidate, but be a visionary and bring home the Hispanic vote for the GOP. If you don’t, you are done.

In for a penny, in for a pound. Not only will he not attract the Hispanic vote, he will lose to a rat in the general and McLame and Grahmnesty will be nowhere to be found.

The establishment ruined Rubio for the Tea Party.


27 posted on 08/20/2013 1:55:11 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Rubio made those choices, he did it to himself.

Personal responsibility is a conservative trait.


28 posted on 08/20/2013 1:58:39 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Resolute Conservative

Maybe we will all forget what an amnesty loving RINO he is. :-)


29 posted on 08/20/2013 1:59:41 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ZULU

It won’t matter even if he clearly announces he was wrong. He still does not believe he was wrong and before all this, when he was supposedly against amnesty, he was lying.

His problem isn’t just that he is an amnesty supporting traitor. It’s that he is a certifiable liar. We suspected there was something wrong with his stance on illegals before he got elected, but he promised us he wasn’t for amnesty. Some people voted for him because they believed he was never for the illegal agenda. Some people voted for him even though they knew he had been for illegals in the past because of his promise to be against illegals now. But he reneged on that promise.

There is nothing he can say now to reverse what we know because his word means nothing. He cannot be trusted.


30 posted on 08/20/2013 2:03:59 PM PDT by Waryone
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...whether [Rubio] simply thought [Rubio] was doing the right thing

Rubio told us that legalization was not the priority and turned around and said, in Spanish, that legalization was the priority. D*** liar.

31 posted on 08/20/2013 2:11:48 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: Waryone; ZULU

Rubio is a con man, and a fraud. He got big money for selling out. His war chest is at an all time high.


32 posted on 08/20/2013 2:12:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

He is either that or extremely gullible.


33 posted on 08/20/2013 2:20:18 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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He is a slick lawyer/politician. Not gullible. Evil yes.

He spoke to a leftist hispanic group in spanish, and told them he would push for amnesty and citizenship for illegals. He got caught. He’s done.


34 posted on 08/20/2013 2:26:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: jmacusa

Yep.

Notice the title doesn’t say what the real issue is: ILLEGAL immigration.


35 posted on 08/20/2013 2:37:31 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: jmacusa

“it’s clanish type of mentality for Hispanics’ race first America later.”

Ditto for the black population. Race always comes first — even before God.


36 posted on 08/20/2013 2:55:27 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("A hyphenated American is not an American at all." Teddy Roosevelt)
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Oh, well, Marco, I am sure everyone will forget about your pro-amnesty stance if you just choose to not bring it up anymore.


37 posted on 08/20/2013 3:16:48 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: Jim Robinson

Marco Rubio—Senator from Aztlán


38 posted on 08/20/2013 3:21:27 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: nathanbedford
One cannot contemplate the tragic fall of Marco Rubio from the heights without a real feeling of sadness for what might have been.

To use a 1960's expression, my heart bleeds purple peanut butter for El Reconquistador.

39 posted on 08/20/2013 3:33:05 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Say whatever you like from here on in, Rubio, I won’t be taking you seriously again, and there are more entertaining speakers out there if that’s what I’m looking for.


40 posted on 08/20/2013 3:34:49 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Jim Robinson

My problem with him is he preached 1st the border will be closed
And we All know that is crappola


41 posted on 08/20/2013 3:45:09 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: VRWCarea51
Maybe he should start off his townhall meetings singing “Mississippi Girl”.

No, he should sing La Internacional.

42 posted on 08/20/2013 3:55:37 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I still think this was a setup. Rubio was going to be a Tea Party favorite. Clean, hispanic, intelligent, he was everything the Tea Party wanted and everything the GOPe hated. The 2016 Presidential candidate that not even Hillary could beat. Then the GOPe made him an offer he couldnt refuse. Come along with us and not only will you be the 2016 candidate, but be a visionary and bring home the Hispanic vote for the GOP. If you don’t, you are done.

In for a penny, in for a pound. Not only will he not attract the Hispanic vote, he will lose to a rat in the general and McLame and Grahmnesty will be nowhere to be found.

The establishment ruined Rubio for the Tea Party.

If he's that naive, then he's unqualified to be president of the United States. I quail at the thought of someone that gullible going head to head with Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping or King Abdullah.

43 posted on 08/20/2013 4:12:03 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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It’s what the flaming liberal country Singer Faith Hill did

As they say about SOME women arond here, usually on the female teacher/sex with student threads:
NOT GUILTY!

There are a few people entitled to their own opinions that are contrary to conservatism...She could easily be forgiven.

44 posted on 08/20/2013 5:34:27 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

IF the Rubes had remained true to his core conservative values (no matter how deeply hidden they might be) he would have been a ferocious opponent for any lib on the ticket. You, I believe, have it so right. Rubes was set up. They had to knock him down early....and they did. Of course, he was the one who chose to close his eyes and jump of his pedestal and has no one to blame but himself. McLame must be so proud that he at last got to gig Sarah big time. What a wimp of a male. Go Sarah, go Sarah, go Sarah!!!!!


45 posted on 08/20/2013 5:44:57 PM PDT by V K Lee
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To: Zack Attack
Rubio, however intelligent he may be, showed lack of common sense in getting suckered in by this.

"Suckered in"? You don't pitch something as heinous and repugnant as amnesty for illegals, unless you've willingly jumped in with both feet.

Rubio's not a fool. He's a turncoat.

46 posted on 08/20/2013 7:38:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Catsrus
I believe that Rubio got hood winked by those who have been in the Senate much longer and are snakes in the grass

The issue is too important and too basic to who and what we are as a nation, for even a first term Senator to simply be hoodwinked into supporting the death of the republic.

No, I'm afraid that Rubio wholeheartedly agrees in principle with the left on illegal immigration and amnesty. He wasn't pushed - he jumped in with both feet.

47 posted on 08/20/2013 7:44:55 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Bigg Red

No one will forget lil’Marco when we have to ‘’press 2 for English’’.


48 posted on 08/20/2013 9:16:12 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

That day will be here before we know it.


49 posted on 08/21/2013 8:37:14 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: Jim Robinson

TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Late to make it up some how.Should been more concern about America’s state of affairs and spending less time trying to brainwash us on how urgent immigration reform is needed if we intend to save our country


50 posted on 08/21/2013 10:02:13 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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