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To: Brown Deer

Oh - and incidentally - all of those sources are online.

Let me give you some instruction.

If, for example, if you want to find the quote from James Bayard that says:

“It is not necessary that a man should be born in this country, to be ‘a natural born citizen.’ It is only requisite that he should be a citizen by birth, and that is the case with all the children of citizens who have ever resided in this country, though born in a foreign country.”

you can go to google books search, which is located at books.google.com.

You can paste the quote into the box, and click “Search Books.”

And you will be able to find the original book that quote came from.

If you want to verify what I said about Chief Justice John Marshall, Justice Joseph Story, Chancellor James Kent and other distinguished jurists of the early United States approving Bayard’s work, that’s in the Preface to I think any edition after the original 1833 one. So it’s in the 1834 second edition, the 1840 edition, and so forth.

If you want to verify that James Bayard’s father was known as the “High Priest of the Constitution,” or that his grandfather was Richard Bassett, our United States Senator #1 of the First Congress and one of the 39 Delegates who Signed the Constitution, that’s all online too. You just have to do some searching.

I’m sure even you can do it.

Unless, of course, you just want to be a useful little patsy for people who feed you pretty-sounding Constitutional bullsh*t.


213 posted on 08/21/2013 10:07:32 PM PDT by Jeff Winston (Yeah, I think I could go with Cruz in 2016.)
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To: Jeff Winston

Your Bayard quote doesn’t say citzen by birth = natural-born citizen. It qualifies that citizenship by birth occurs to “all the children of citizens.” IOW, someone can’t just be born abroad and be a U.S. citizen. They have to be born to citizen parents the SAME way they had to be born to citizen parents in the U.S. at the time Bayard wrote his observation. There were only two ways to be a citizen at birth and both involved being born to citizen parents. This excludes both Obama and Cruz, as well as Rubio and Jindal. Thanks for helping to prove it. Sorry your quote backfired.


214 posted on 08/21/2013 11:28:52 PM PDT by edge919
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