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Remember Ruby Ridge
Cato Institute ^ | Aug. 21, 2002 | Tim Lynch

Posted on 08/21/2013 8:42:37 AM PDT by Sopater

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To: Sopater
The unpunished atrocities of Waco and Ruby Ridge were the turning point for this country.

What would this America look like today had the government showed the people they would hold their own accountable for crimes committed under the color of authority.

21 posted on 08/21/2013 9:57:50 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Texas Songwriter

The set up and perjured warrant request by BATF occured during daddy bushes regime.


22 posted on 08/21/2013 10:06:24 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Thank you for posting......excellent article.

I second that, and must add that's the single most inclusive and concise summary I've ever read. Well done!

23 posted on 08/21/2013 10:13:20 AM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Sopater
That was under the Clinton DOJ. Somehow, these faggot, commie, tyrant progressives have an inarguable and indefensible sense of entitlement which, when elected to serve the public, causes them to morph that solemn obligation into a license to become wanton despots and brazen dictators.

I guess when you start from a demneted position of social lunacy, all you need to add is a bit of power to come up with a total megalomaniac. Helps to explain why so many pathalogical liars, sociopathic schemers, and ignorant bigots don the sheep's cloak of "Progressive" to mask their devolutionary proclivities.

An act of pure evil can be sold to an unsuspecting, naive group with the promise of "change," if the seller happens to have no conscience, sense of honor, or moral compass. And if you ask your garden variety Progressive, all of those things are old, outdated vestiges of an era long passed.

We will not be free of their stranglehold on our society until we again commit ourselves to the eternal wisdom of our prayerful, Godly Founding Fathers, and again submit ourselves to the absolute rule and guiding Hand of our one true and loving God.

Once He is restored to His rightful place in our lives, and our Nation, then we will be restored to our former place in His care.

Unless and until that occurs, we will continue to rot from the inside out.

;-\

24 posted on 08/21/2013 10:34:46 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Da amber lamps. Bring dem..." LMFFAO!!!!)
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To: Sopater

“How’s your baby Mrs. Weaver?” Was repeatedly asked over their loud speakers!

Sickening that these LEOs can walk and live amongst us instead of being locked up.


25 posted on 08/21/2013 10:44:20 AM PDT by shotgun
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Seems to recall Randy Weaver was a combat vet. And was targeted by the Feds who had some greasy fella befriend Randy Weaver to convince him to cut down a shotgun.And how the legal system failed notify Randy Weaver of the Court date—setting up the warrant—I believe their end goal all along was to remove their target Randy Weaver—or to so damage himhe woul dnot act as any credible threat to those who trained him to begin with and who deployed him in the Republic of....


26 posted on 08/21/2013 10:59:29 AM PDT by Robert Burkholder
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To: Sopater

Would make sense that he would be given some nondescript government job hidden away in DC.

Posting on Linkedin tho?

Maybe he is an idiot on top of being a murderer.


27 posted on 08/21/2013 11:01:03 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: Sopater

Ruby Ridge was my watershed moment as an adult...the light went on...

Never ever forget....this and Waco...


28 posted on 08/21/2013 11:09:03 AM PDT by Popman
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To: Robert Burkholder
I believe their end goal all along was to remove their target Randy Weaver—or to so damage himhe woul dnot act as any credible threat to those who trained him to begin with and who deployed him in the Republic of....

I believe that they were trying to force him to inform on others in the Arian Nations group. When he refused to do so under threat of legal action regarding the shotguns, they decided to play "rough".
29 posted on 08/21/2013 11:32:05 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater
Let's not forget the despicable origin of this slaughter.

Weaver had briefly stayed with some white supremacists, and left in disgust. The Feds (I think it was the BATF) wanted information on them, could not infiltrate them, so they chased Weaver down and ‘asked’ him to go back and be a snitch for them. Weaver nixed this. He just wanted to be left in peace on his land.

So the Feds moved an undercover agent in next door and had him be friendly towards Weaver. After a while, the guy asked Weaver to sell him a shotgun. Weaver agreed. The guy asked him to cut the barrel short. Weaver said he would not cut it shorter than the legal limit.

Weaver measured 16 inches and cut the barrel.

The Feds decided that the cut was ONE SAWBLADE WIDTH TOO SHORT, and that he had manufactured and sold an illegal sawed off shotgun. They told him they would drop the charges if he would go spy on the white supremacists.

Weaver, livid with rage over the setup and entrapment and extortion, told them to f*** themselves.

They indicted him and took him to court; the court clerk made a ‘clerical error’ sent him a notice to show up on 13 March, while everyone else got the notice to show up on 13 February. A Bench Warrant was issued when he didn't appear. Weaver decided the fix was in, that the court system was as corrupt as the Federal Agents, and told them all to f*** themselves.

The Marshalls were told to pick him up, but were so embarrassed about how it all happened that they just ignored the warrant. Eight months later a local newspaper printed a story about how the Marshals were ignoring their duty. A new manager came in and decided they couldn't ignore the warrant forever.

The story told in the article is light on details, but essentially correct from that point on.

30 posted on 08/21/2013 11:55:02 AM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: skeeter
When Weaver sued the federal government for the wrongful death of his wife and son, the government that had tried to kill him twice now sought an out-of-court settlement. In August 1995 the U.S. government paid the Weaver family $3.1 million.

As I understand it, it was $1M for each child and $100k for Randy himself.

Pfh.
31 posted on 08/21/2013 12:05:00 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Mack the knife
The guy asked him to cut the barrel short.

I'd say "cut your own darn barrel!"
32 posted on 08/21/2013 12:08:11 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Mack the knife
The story told in the article is light on details, but essentially correct from that point on.

I believe your assessment is correct however, as well as your claim that the article is short on details... I just wanted to remind everyone at FR on this 21st anniversary.
33 posted on 08/21/2013 12:10:02 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Texas Songwriter
The Waco even was courtesy of Janet Reno and Bill Clinton.

It unfolded on their watch. It started under GHWB.

34 posted on 08/21/2013 1:19:27 PM PDT by Spirochete (Does the FedGov have the attributes of a legitimate government?)
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To: Sopater

Wow...that was some biased article...

Of course it’s NBC...they can’t help themselves...


35 posted on 08/21/2013 3:11:51 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Texas Songwriter

And Jamie Gorelick and Dick Rogers


36 posted on 08/21/2013 3:19:13 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Popman

NBC is the political voice of COMCAST

COMCAST is an American enemy


37 posted on 08/21/2013 3:23:31 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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