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To: rockabyebaby

“rules are rules”

Just curious....when the census take comes around....do you simply tell them how many people live in the house them them tell them to get off your property like I do?

or do you follow the “rules” and divulge a bunch of personal metrics that are not required by law?

Cuz the last time....the guy actually made five trips to my house trying to brow beat me into filling out his little list of questions.....he even tried to talk to my minor children more then once to fish information from them....they knew better and got me each time...
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The last trip he threatened to call the county sheriff.....(which I had already been anticipating)...so I hit speed dial on my phone to the deputy at the dispatch desk (non emergency) I had previously talked to about the harassment from the census taker and handed the census taker the phone and said..”here the sheriff is on the phone”...

The census taker got beat red when the deputy instructed him to leave my property or he would be forced to complete a report for trespassing and harassment as I had already provided the information that was required by law.

He cussed me out all the way to his car...and I never saw him again...

A rule is valid if there is a logical reason behind it....could have...might....if...are not valid reasons

“Cuz I said so” is not a valid reason...

People come up with stupid rules all the time....and other people will follow them...

Just like the recent BS about an apt housing unit trying to ban residents from owning firearms...

I own rental property...and I know for a fact that I cant simply change “rules” on a whim and make my rental non smoking...

I’m bound by past practice and the original terms of the lease (besides the fact I wouldn’t do so)..


48 posted on 08/23/2013 6:07:18 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Crim; rockabyebaby

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2436331/posts My personal experience with the “long form.”

Regarding what is “required by law,” this poster speaks (erroneously) to that: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2436331/posts?page=87#87

You are technically required to answer but no one has been prosecuted for refusing to answer: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2436331/posts?page=106#106

“3) Do I have to answer the ACS questions? Yes. Response to this survey is required by law (Section 221 of Title 13). Respondents are required to answer all questions on the ACS to the best of their ability. Your answers are very important because they represent the answers of many other similar households in your community. The data that you and others provide in response to this survey are required to manage or evaluate federal and state government programs. If you submit an incomplete form or provide data that are unclear, the Census Bureau may contact you by phone or in person to obtain or clarify the missing information.

10) What are the penalties if I do not respond to the survey? Both Title 13 and Title 18, United States Code, provide for monetary penalties for failure to respond. Title 18, U.S.C., Section 3551, et seq., the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984, establishes uniform penalties for all federal crimes. Title 13 U.S.C., Section 221, makes it a misdemeanor to refuse or willfully neglect to complete the questionnaire or answer questions posed by census takers and imposes a fine of not more than $100. This fine is changed by the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984 from $100 to not more than $5,000. The Census Bureau is not a prosecuting agency. Failure to provide information is not likely to result in a fine. The Census Bureau staff work to achieve cooperation and high response rates by helping the public understand that responding to the ACS is a matter of civic responsibility, and prefers to encourage participation in this manner rather than prosecution.

Unfortunately for us, the wording of the Constitution does seem to indicate that we are subject to all of the questions, since it says The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.

So, the Constitution says Congress makes the law, and the law says we must answer or else... Of course, those of us who believe in a Free Republic are likely to determine that they can take their law and stuff it :-) “


54 posted on 08/23/2013 6:46:58 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Crim

I pitched mine. Never heard anything more about it.


61 posted on 08/23/2013 7:12:51 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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