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11-Year-Old Boy Attends Texas Christian University
5 NBCDFW.com ^ | August 28,2012 | Lindsay Wilcox

Posted on 08/28/2013 12:24:18 PM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: AppyPappy

Here are his scores from the other article: “He said his cumulative SAT score was 1770 (critical reading: 580, math: 620, writing: 570).” I still think at this point the child would be better off being homeschooled or placed in an accelerated program with other bright kids closer to his own age. He’s obviously very smart and when he’s 16, he’d likely have a perfect 2400 and learn from some really brilliant, innovative thinkers at MIT or Stamford. Instead, he’s being pushed to learn in an environment where he’s going to be surrounded by people whose IQ’s are decidedly lower than his own, while learning material for which his brain and maturity may or may not be developmentally ready.


21 posted on 08/28/2013 1:13:57 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: wintertime
My homeschoolers started college at the ages of 13, 12, and 13 with **one** course. The rest of the time, they studied subjects that interested them and did “kid things”. By the age of 16 they were taking a full load and two finished B.S. degrees in mathematics. Another child continued to study part time but excelled in a sport and excelled remarkably in this sport and in his studies. He now has a masters degree in accounting.

Now this approach strikes me as much more appropriate and not cruel at all. Taking a class here and a class there if the kid has an interest and an ability in certain subjects is a good thing. But this kid is taking a full course load.

22 posted on 08/28/2013 1:16:57 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: old and tired

True. My son did a 1650 read/math on his first try. That 11 year-old is way smarter than him

They are throwing that kid into a lion’s den.


23 posted on 08/28/2013 1:17:13 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy

“True. My son did a 1650 read/math on his first try. That 11 year-old is way smarter than him

They are throwing that kid into a lion’s den.”

If the academic facility he attends is functioning as it should, it is a support system for intellectual inquiry. That boy is more than able to hold his own in the intellectual give and take of university level classes.

My guess is said student has a two standard deviations above norm IQ.

‘Nuff said.


24 posted on 08/28/2013 1:26:47 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: AppyPappy

In short, IMHO, when the intellectual fur stops flying in that “lion’s den”, I predict the 11 year old student may well be the “top cat”.


25 posted on 08/28/2013 1:29:48 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: Hojczyk

Carson’s a Horned Frog. Or as we called them in Oklahoma, `horny toads.’


26 posted on 08/28/2013 1:36:20 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: TalonDJ
The SAT has three sections and three scores, each on a scale of 200 to 800.

Writing (200-800)
Math (200-800)
Critical Reading (200-800)

Max score is 2400.

source

27 posted on 08/28/2013 1:36:42 PM PDT by South40
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To: GladesGuru

College is not a good place for the emotionally immature.


28 posted on 08/28/2013 1:43:02 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: old and tired
Stamford?
29 posted on 08/28/2013 1:50:26 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: AppyPappy

TCU’s environment will be better for him than most any of the state colleges. Small class sizes, campus, etc.


30 posted on 08/28/2013 2:02:55 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: South40

Somehow I’m believing the 1770 was two out of the three tests.


31 posted on 08/28/2013 2:05:43 PM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: jimfree

The most one could score on two of the tests would be 1600 so his 1770 would have to be the score of all three tests.


32 posted on 08/28/2013 2:11:30 PM PDT by South40
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To: Hojczyk

In our Founding Father’s days it was not unusual for kids 13 or 14 entering Harvard.


33 posted on 08/28/2013 2:16:27 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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In our Founding Father’s days it was not unusual for kids 13 or 14 entering Harvard.

Yea, perhaps true, but then kids back then weren’t playing video games, watching Star Wars or reading the Chronicles of Narnia.

34 posted on 08/28/2013 2:36:01 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: Osage Orange

Oops. Stanford.


35 posted on 08/28/2013 2:38:23 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: Slyfox
In our Founding Father’s days it was not unusual for kids 13 or 14 entering Harvard.

Yes...but in those days the majority of people didn't go to school past sixth grade, and lots of people didn't even make it that far. If you wanted anything resembling a gentleman's education, you needed to go to college.

Today, if you want to learn about most any topic under the sun, you just need to find the right youtube channel - for instance, my granddaughter was really struggling with her AP Calculus class, mostly because she just didn't mesh with her teacher. After tuning into youtube calculus lessons, she ultimately received an A in the course and a 4 on her AP exam.

36 posted on 08/28/2013 2:50:30 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: GladesGuru
In short, IMHO, when the intellectual fur stops flying in that “lion’s den”, I predict the 11 year old student may well be the “top cat”.

So what? He's still going to be learning a lot of useless crap, just like he would be in any high school. Obviously the kid has a genuine capacity for learning - why not see where that leads instead of making him sit through Theology and History classes in which he may or may not have a genuine interest?

Genuinely intelligent people no longer need to be in a traditional college setting to participate in scientific advancements - most of the internet is free and if the kid has genuine curiosity and excellent ability, he'll be (virtually) hobnobbing with some of the greatest scientists from around the world. When he's ready, that is. In the meantime, he should be focusing on pulling up his test scores to a level appropriate for his intelligence. They're pushing this kid into a regular college environment and for what?

37 posted on 08/28/2013 3:01:46 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: edcoil
If he’s really serious about getting a PhD in quantum physics, while Texas Christian University might be a good school to start with, to get an undergraduate degree from, it’s not listed as one of the top schools in this area of study:

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/quantum-physics-rankings

And none of those schools would accept an SAT score of 1770 for admission to their physics programs. To get into MIT for instance, the top ranked school for mathematics and physics, the low end of the SAT scores is 2180.

MIT, Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Critical Reading: 670 – 770
Mathematics: 740 - 800
Writing: 680 – 770

The mean average SAT scores of all students obtaining college admission is 1500. That includes low level state schools, 2 year colleges and community colleges. An SAT score of 1770, while quite impressive for an 11 year old, is not all that impressive among serious college bound students especially those seeking degrees in the hard sciences.

My concern is that by pushing him to attend college at 11 years old, with his mother by his side attending classes with him BTW, that he will only go so far before burning out, or maturing as he should in a more age appropriate setting even if among other very bright 11 year olds, that he’ll get an advanced degree from a low level school and then what?

38 posted on 08/28/2013 3:18:39 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA; old and tired
Y'all demonstrated my point exactly.

I have been studying the education of our Founders. Half of our Founders graduated from college. Half did not, however they were all well-read.

In order to get into college you had to be able to read Greek and read, write, and speak Latin so that in your last two years of college you could debate your professor in Latin.

Our Founding documents could have been written and debated in Latin.

I went to the Harvard University website to find a program that resembled our Founder's education. Since they all graduated with a bachelors in philosophy I started there.

I looked over the bachelors in philosophy and nope.

I looked over the masters in philosophy and nope.

I had to look at the PhD program in philology to find anything resembling what our Founders learned.

Colleges in those days were designed to prepare men to be good judges and good ministers.

Our Founders were extraordinarily educated, by today's standards.

39 posted on 08/28/2013 3:41:48 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: old and tired

Texas Christian is on the Conservative side, and probably will allow the student quite a bit of latitude.

IMHO, a good choice and one where the boy’s abilities will be likely to be supported rather than dosed with the usual socialism of the academented.


40 posted on 08/28/2013 4:02:05 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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