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I am suggesting it COULD be. Okay, it could be the will of God. That means that it might not be the will of God. That's why I can't factor this in to my decision making process. I am willing to exercise faith, but there has to be a very strong reason for me to exercise that faith. I can't jump to a conclusion, then throw my whole weight behind it based on it being God's will, if there is absolutely nothing to indicate it is. God doesn't back lawlessness. Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. This means immigration law in this instance.

That’s where the multitude of counselors comes in to clarify such difficult, nonintuitive matters. Sarah has worked always by getting consensus, far as I have been aware. Okay, but what this means is that she sticks her finger up in the air to see which way the wind blows. On immigraton, it's too important a matter to leave to this type of decision making process. You have to intuitively know what is right, and stick to it.

I CAN tell you that the “well, I will NEVER vote for such and such because they are calling for something that isn’t in the Worldly Conservative Plan” mantra is what threw a half a dozen flawed but still worthier men to the wayside last year for Mitt Romney. I suggest God wants folks like you to take a lesson from this. Those that didn't vote for Romney exhibited rock solid character. I came very close to not voting for him myself. On the morning of the election I couldn't stand the idea of another four years of Obama, so I voted for Romney realizing that if he won I would have ushered in a man that would destroy more of what I believe in. I learned every lesson I needed to by May of 2012. We were throwing away an opportunity to install a strong conservative that would have turned this nation around. It wouldn't be the first time. It wouldn't be the last. It would be another election in a long string of them where our nation would be dissembled considerably more over the next four years.

Our nation was going to lose, no matter what.

This phrase you strung together really disturbs me. Here it is again.

I CAN tell you that the “well, I will NEVER vote for such and such because they are calling for something that isn’t in the Worldly Conservative Plan” mantra is what threw a half a dozen flawed but still worthier men to the wayside last year for Mitt Romney.

Don't you believe it is the duty of good men to give matters thought, and their perceptions merit? What parts of Conservatism do you dismiss as worldly? We believe in God. We believe in country. We believe in Godly laws and the duty to enforce them. We believe in fairness and equality and the freedom to persue the lives we desire. Do you think God disapproves of this? Really?

By the same token, you could trash all religion as being simply Man's flawed perception.

Honestly, you've reduced Conservatism to some flawed logic paradigm that we shouldn't seek to support. Guy, honestly, what's up with you today?

Honestly, you've reduced Conservatism to some flawed logic paradigm that we shouldn't seek to support. Guy, honestly, what's up with you today?

I'm worshiping God more seriously than I have ever done in my life before. That's what's up! And God is blessing me richly for it in the spiritual and material worlds, all for the sake of glorifying Him. It can't be for glorifying me apart from Him. It can't be for glorifying you apart from Him. However He will gladly glorify Himself in me and in you if we sincerely seek for that.

I'm saying let's take our very best ideas, as well as our not so good ones, and lay them at the Lord's feet. Sometimes the good ideas need refinement. Sometimes they need to be laid aside for a while to make room for an even better idea we may not have thought about. Think of where the BLESSING may be had. That Cross wasn't a decoration. That Cross took away all sins and offered mankind the ultimate Reset button. The Lord wants to take over the task of chastising, a chastisement which is intended to shake men up until they can see His beautiful light.