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On Syria, Obama is more like Wilson than Bush: This isn't about imperialism. It's about justice
The Week ^ | August 29, 2013 | Bill Scher

Posted on 09/01/2013 10:15:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: BillyBoy
Pray for peace...


41 posted on 09/01/2013 11:52:40 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Or is that “prey for peace?”


42 posted on 09/01/2013 11:54:29 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author seems to think that his comparison is a compliment to Obama.

How absurd.


43 posted on 09/01/2013 12:37:38 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble

Well Liberals worship Wilson almost as much as their patron saint, FDR.


44 posted on 09/01/2013 12:38:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jim Noble

It’s a fantastic article.


45 posted on 09/01/2013 12:39:12 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: JCBreckenridge

“It’s a fantastic article”

Not in the way the author intended, though


46 posted on 09/01/2013 12:54:18 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t forget Hilary in march 2011. Assad was a reformer. This makes her very presidential.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/hillary-clintons-uncredible-statement-on-syria/2011/04/01/AFWPEYaC_blog.html


47 posted on 09/01/2013 1:04:33 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would love to see what this asshat wrote about the run up to the Iraq war..


48 posted on 09/01/2013 1:59:27 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The GOP, the ultimate battered wife? Or willing co-conspirators?)
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To: KC_Lion

Off topic, but Tuchman wrote an excellent book on 14th century France. Her research and writing was superb. As result, I am going to get this book from library..


49 posted on 09/01/2013 2:02:30 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The GOP, the ultimate battered wife? Or willing co-conspirators?)
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To: llevrok

While Chamberlain is well known for his Munich appeasement, what is lesser known was his staunch anti-nazism after he finally woke up and realized he’d been played for a fool. He really worked hard to undo his silly “waving of the treaty” moment..


50 posted on 09/01/2013 2:05:48 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The GOP, the ultimate battered wife? Or willing co-conspirators?)
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To: cardinal4
That was A Distant Mirror. Great stuff.

It's hard to imagine a more delusional approach to this thing than this author's. Bush removing a dictator with an established track record of gassing his people was "imperialism", 0bama trying to remove a dictator suspected of gassing his people is "justice". Wilson was an internationalist idealist whose approach was for collective security; 0bama had his representative walk out of the UN and has precisely one ally in the thing: France, and now intends to "keep us out of the war" by waging one.

This is nothing more serious than a child chanting "Bush evil, 0bama good." Woodrow Wilson does nothing for this ridiculous argument but muddy the waters, precisely as intended.

51 posted on 09/01/2013 2:20:15 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Yep, that was it. Her writing on that piece put the WWI book at the top of my library list..


52 posted on 09/01/2013 2:44:04 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The GOP, the ultimate battered wife? Or willing co-conspirators?)
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To: Cyropaedia
Is it any wonder that the British decided to bail...?

I would bet my last doughnut hole that a message was passed to the Brits from the Russians:

Lay off if you don't want your gas shut off next winter. Citizens tend to change their minds about their favorite politicians when they are freezing.

No one is looking at the energy choke hold that the Russians have on all of Europe. This is something worth exploring, methinks.

53 posted on 09/01/2013 3:18:25 PM PDT by Wingy
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>> “to spread the right of self-determination abroad”

Marxists are not about self-determination, asshat.


54 posted on 09/01/2013 3:23:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: llevrok

Find later


55 posted on 09/01/2013 3:26:07 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Wingy

"Сделайте мой день..."

56 posted on 09/01/2013 4:23:28 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia

Heh heh, my College Russian courses served me well.


57 posted on 09/01/2013 4:24:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
As World War I raged in Europe and civil war erupted in Mexico, Woodrow Wilson won re-election in 1916 on the slogan "He Kept Us Out Of War." But Wilson's slogan proved ephemeral, and his strategy of "armed neutrality" finally gave way in the face of German aggression.
The author is clearly just a partisan shill -- for example, Wilson's 1916 campaign slogan was a humbug, as any honest thinker would admit.
58 posted on 09/01/2013 7:07:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: BenLurkin
The Zimmmermann telegram is named after Alfred Zimmermann, the German Foreign Secretary.

How a White Hispanic got to be Foreign Secretary of the German Empire in 1917, I don't know.

59 posted on 09/01/2013 7:18:57 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: BillyBoy; Alas Babylon!; Impy; fieldmarshaldj
RE:”You've nailed the RAT mindset perfectly.”

On MSNBC Steve Kornacki this morning his roundtable was on Syria for most of show and one lib guest there had a fit, she said
I want my money back . I didn't support him so he would bomb other countries. I wanted the opposite of Bush.”

Pretty entertaining.

60 posted on 09/01/2013 8:02:54 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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