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Texas Official Preparing for Independence
WND ^ | 09-01-2013 | John Griffing

Posted on 09/02/2013 3:29:38 PM PDT by flowergirl

Edited on 09/02/2013 3:34:57 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Barry Smitherman, head of the powerful Texas Railroad Commission, is making waves for his comments about economic collapse, energy policy and the future.

But don

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: economy; secession; statesrights; texas; tryanny
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To: TBP
How does he plan to achieve it?

Secure the borders of Texas and pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist.

Oddly enough, that would work.

The U.S. needs Texas a lot more than Texas needs the U.S.

61 posted on 09/02/2013 5:48:58 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Eaker

O.K. this is the best I can do for the evening.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/3473/

Skip down to paragraph 7 or so. Over the propaganda.

I can remember back in the day sending a contribution, receiving seeds and planting them on the side of the highway.

I despise LBJ as well.


62 posted on 09/02/2013 5:52:33 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie

It’s one of the Constitutional Amendments that’s on the Texas ballot in November. Never been permitted by Texas because we wanted to protect this often one source of security remaining - a roof over your head when you’re older. Really being pushed by realtors, bankers and start-up lending companies. Underwritten by HUD and FHA - government programs which which are in deep trouble already. Might want to google Senate Bill on Reverse Mortgages. Most articles written are by realtors or loan companies, certainly ones that have a lot to gain.

Borrowers don’t have to make payments but interest is added on to the loan amount. As I understand it, interest rate is not fixed. Then there is the matter of escrow for insurance and taxes, all of which are going up. Then the issue of a surviving spouse who would have to pay off any amounts due in order to remain in the house or have the property repossessed.

Traditional loans are like a balloon full of air that loses some air and gets smaller each time a payment is made. A reverse mortgage is like an empty balloon that grows larger as time passes. Reverse mortgages sell property slowly, one month at a time.

Many people who get these kinds of mortgages are already in dire financial straits. Selling and buying something smaller or even selling and using the money to pay rent might be a better option.

Older people often don’t have the resources to do the due diligence or seek sound advice before they take the plunge so it’s very much a buyer beware issue. Might work for some - just all depends. I just see big red flags when the HUD, FHA, realtors and lending companies all support the same program.


63 posted on 09/02/2013 5:59:33 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Right now my vote is with Staples. MSM and Dewhurst both call him a Whacky Bird. Strong on the fence issue - said he would build it himself if he had to - pro-life, pro-gun, vouchers for schools. Former rancher.


64 posted on 09/02/2013 6:06:41 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A
I need to bite the bullet and go ahead and post a Boot Dewhurst thread so we can have this discussion. I've got a bone to pick with Patterson on state property tax.

/johnny

65 posted on 09/02/2013 6:09:10 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Grams A

Thanks Grams A!

I will definitely do further research.

Not in a financial bind (today anyway) but have thought of this option. My heirs are not interested in living in who da thunk it. Thought I might use my equity to finance my older years.


66 posted on 09/02/2013 6:15:29 PM PDT by berdie
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To: betsyross60
Please put me on the ping list.

You're on, Betsy. Welcome!

67 posted on 09/02/2013 6:17:20 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: basil
we should never joined the union

You guys didn't have a choice.

After the TX Revolution, your government was weak. TX was in the way of westward expansion by U.S. settlers (thereby starting a possible war between TX and the U.S.). Either that or Mexico would have regrouped with the help of one of the European powers.

68 posted on 09/02/2013 6:30:18 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: Windflier

My guess is that if Texas goes, several other red states will join us. That would hasten the collapse of the remaining blue union, who would soon come to us bearing a white flag of surrender (and hungry bellies).

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My guess is that you would be attacked by the Mexican government and military. Better have an army in place first.


69 posted on 09/02/2013 6:35:12 PM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough...)
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To: Windflier

threaten to declare war on us if we didn’t stay put?

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Yes. US troops and Mexican troops. You underestimate the demand for power and submission.


70 posted on 09/02/2013 6:38:49 PM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough...)
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To: Chickensoup
My guess is that you would be attacked by the Mexican government and military. Better have an army in place first.

Don't be hysterical. There are 100 million armed American citizens, and most of them are in the red states.

71 posted on 09/02/2013 6:51:43 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

most of them are in the red states

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I don’t think that is necessarily true.

And although Texas is well armed, I would suspect the US military and the Mexican military are better armed.


72 posted on 09/02/2013 6:55:36 PM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough...)
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To: DoughtyOne

If they did it in California, we would be the ones to get kicked out. That’s ok, it looks like Texas will be in good shape.


73 posted on 09/02/2013 7:01:11 PM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: Grams A; berdie

Reverse mortgages are already legal in Texas. The proposed amendment just modifies existing law.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/business_columnists/david_hendricks/article/Will-Texas-embrace-reverse-mortgages-3822007.php


74 posted on 09/02/2013 7:04:40 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Defiant

Actually, I think the folks in the Eastern part of the state have just about had it with the Lefties. You might be surprised what folks would do.

Note that on certain issues we prevail. The Hispanic nut is not that hard to crack. You approach them in the sweet spot, and they’ll peel away from crime and abortion enabling Leftists.


75 posted on 09/02/2013 7:06:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: Windflier
Thanks for the ping!

Once again, it's great to be a Texan.

76 posted on 09/02/2013 7:12:39 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Chickensoup
although Texas is well armed, I would suspect the US military and the Mexican military are better armed.

First of all, no ones going to kill potentially hundreds of thousands of Americans for choosing to secede from the United States.

This isn't 1861. Americans will never kill their own countrymen over such a purely political decision again. We also don't have the animating issue of slavery this time around. The political and social will doesn't exist to hold any state that wants to exit the union against their will. Especially through the use of brute force.

Secondly, I don't know where you're getting your information from, but there are only about 1.5 million active duty troops in the entire U.S. military. There are more well armed citizens than that in the state of Texas alone.

And if you think that tanks and advanced weapon systems would even the odds for them, look no further than Iraq to see how that would play out. It's been estimated that a force of no more than fifteen thousand 'insurgents' held our military at bay for nearly ten years in that place.

If the Iraqi fighters had had even half the numbers we possess, the U.S. military could never have taken them down.

The dynamics in such a hypothetical contest would also prove daunting to the government. They'd be asking their troops to apply military force against their own people. That would not end well - for them.

And as far as the country of Mexico sending their military against a U.S. secessionist state --- huh?? Please explain why they'd commit troops to fight our citizens, and what they would gain by doing so. They haven't committed their troops to any conflict that I can think of in living memory.

77 posted on 09/02/2013 7:18:07 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m not as confident as you. The Hispanics who got here when America was America, and who wanted to be American, are American. The ones who got here in the 80s and after, who got amnestied and then welfare and defeated prop 187, they are separatists. If the state broke away, we’d be just like Mexico in no time.


78 posted on 09/02/2013 7:21:24 PM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: Windflier

uncle


79 posted on 09/02/2013 7:22:09 PM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough...)
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To: Windflier
Generally speaking, we have made great progress in becoming an independent nation

I really like the way that sounds.

80 posted on 09/02/2013 7:22:31 PM PDT by GeronL
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